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Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

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Ningyou posted:

do you like:

COOL PPL AND/OR MONTHS NAMED JANE
shitposting
grimes
a glut of references to beloved anime "dune"
more shitposting
weird godless robosexuals
brave moral stances against proper grammar or w/e nerd poo poo like that
grimes' clone, "doppelgrimes"
a  boot  stamping  on  an  amiibo's  face  --  forever
lumberjanes

if so this is the thread for you if not sorry come back in july i guess

Yes
No
Who?
Dune is an anime?
NO
YES
I like grammar :(
Again, who?
What did the amiibo do to deserve that?!
Uh...sure?

Also hello Ningyou!

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Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

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Meinberg posted:

Can I have weird sexless robogods instead?

Ningyou posted:

wellllll YOU can have boring sexless robokendolls pursuing boring robofuckboy apotheosis but my robowhatever will be inclusive of scarydommey lesbian cyberqueens or it will be bullshit

Hey, don't be a shamer. Obviously the great titanic art of Socialist Realism along the lines of the first tractor is what turns Meinberg on. Dazdraperrob! Hail the first robot!

Seriously though give me some loving robo-bishonen cyberqueen villains go all the way back to loving Metropolis

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

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Effectronica posted:

If you don't want people to interrupt your cybersex orgy, just report and move on.

I thought your old Michel/Eikichi avatar would have gone in for that sort of thing?

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

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Gamma World is that D&D4e meets Fallout setting, right? I think I had a chance to try it once for a superhero-type game.

Also someone who uses a "$" as a substitute for an "s" sounds...ta$tele$$.

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

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Ningyou posted:

ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm excu$e me it's called "cool grammar for cool ppl"

I'm sorry, you don't mean "c001 gr@mm@r f0r c001 pp1"?

...that hurt to write. :cry:

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

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Meinberg posted:

Trash is a pretty cool aesthetic. There's something strangely magical about the junkyard, the culmination of useful garbage, ignored and tossed away, waiting for the careful to plunder its depths.

Much like the human heart, in a way.

I thought this sort of thing was called "found art"?

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

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So you're saying that your introduction to TTRPGs was FATE? I think?

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Apr 8, 2011

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What is a gunky junket? I do not comprehend.

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

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I'll never understand trolls :smith:

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

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Queen Fiona posted:

Look at you, fighter: a pathetic creature of randomly generated statistics and proficiencies. Who are you to challenge a perfect, immortal machine?

Do they pant and sweat as they run through 10 foot corridors? Is it your will that gave them their magic items, the only value in that fluff they call a character sheet?

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

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Stormgale posted:

This is why I just play a glorious anime wizard and ignore magic Items don't play "traditional" dungeon crawls, problem solved.

Although what do those anime wizards look like? Squat old Master Roshi like men or something better?

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

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FactsAreUseless posted:

Okay, but what does your ego say?

My seelischer Apparat are in agreement (for once) in that they have no idea where this even started. My superego believes that given the choice they'd take ningyou over plutonis and the like, though.

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

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Wahad posted:

Oh! Poor Plutonis, suffering in perpetuity at the miserable hands of the great Leviathan known as Traditional Games, chained to the inescapable horror of Something Awful forever, eyes forced open so that he has not a single moment's respite and must stare at this ghastly tableau, without alternatives.

Truly we must all pity his endlessly tortured existence.

Doesn't Plutonis regularly frequent parts of Something Awful that are even worse with regards to casual vitriol and/or bad grammar, though? You'd think he'd be a bit more inoculated to our benign strain of the virus.

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

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Queen Fiona posted:

What, you don't like my SHODAN references? :smug:

I like them. :smith: Also, to play devil's advocate, I think someone brought up the hypno-monsters in a different chat thread and noted that it was suggestive of some deeply childish thinking on women from the creators.

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

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Queen Fiona posted:

That is, of course, completely true. The whole basis of these monsters was deeply unhealthy views on women, both going back into myth and into the wargaming scene of the time. I was by no means trying to suggest otherwise, just noting that such themes could be found throughout tradgames history.

And, well...some things can be reclaimed, can they not? :h: Besides, I'm sure a Davin wouldn't mind bishounen versions of some of those monsters.

Yeah, I wasn't suggesting you were deliberately ignoring the nasty parts of the whole hypno themes issue. Just saying that they might be why someone is uncomfortable with them in their TTRPG.

You're definitely right about the second part, though :swoon:

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

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Queen Fiona posted:

Instead, I'm going to ask people about campaigns they're planning on running in the Near Future, or maybe just Dream Campaigns in general! (I've got a few.)

I have two that will probably never see the light of day because my work ethic is garbage:

*An Atomic Robo RPG Ace Combat/Area 88 thing that would probably end up hopelessly groggy or absurdly offensive if it gets off the ground
*A Night's Black Agents campaign centered around preparations for Tokyo's 2020 Summer Olympics and that uses completely unoriginal vampires and would ALSO be absurdly offensive (given, you know, the subject matter)

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

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Stormgale posted:

I'd run ace combat in something v combat oriented, I could see it working with a 4e front end.

Well, I know ARRPG a lot better than I know D&D 4e (which isn't much, but still) and I'm not sure how the AWED/Striker Defender Leader Controller setup would map to aircraft. I mean, it might work if I were doing mecha, but...

That's not a criticism of you, just me trying to justify why I chose ARRPG.

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

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Stormgale posted:

Defenders pin down enemy striker craft, they are your escorts
Strikers are heavy attackers, good at killing other air units or fortified ground targets
Leaders are command and control, guiding the battlefield
Controllers use ordnance to either zone enemy fighters or ECM to disable them

Like it's not close to perfect i just feel ace combat deserves that level of fidelity for fighting and my one complaint of fate Is I feel combat is both easily solvable and kinda... meh

The big issue I have with that role breakdown is that you effectively have one player playing Sky Eye (Leader or Controller) and another playing Mobius One (Defender or Striker). Ace Combat is pretty much all about what would be defenders/strikers in your role breakdown; the AEW&C/AGS/ECM/SIGINT type roles are all NPCs. And I feel like FATE combat could be broken out of its stereotypical rut of "build a ton of advantages then smack down" through the appropriate use of stunts or other mechanics on the baddies. For example, a big ship uses its SAMs and any gun-based CIWS both to defeat incoming AShMs and shoot down any aircraft that comes its way. It might have a high attack skill and a stunt that says that it also uses that skill to defend, and gains a bonus to defend provided it hasn't done an attack action this turn. So the only way to get the "stack up advantages and smack down" affair rolling properly is to deliberately expose a friendly to attack.

(Further, since modern military formations (a) fight as reasonably large units and (b) almost never fight "to the death", that big ship is going to have plenty of FP to play with, since any escorts it would have not only further pressure the friendlies with additional incoming attacks, but keep the ship supplied with FPs from concessions as they are invariably forced to withdraw from combat.)

Again, not criticizing you, just me explaining my thought process.

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

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Haven't you seen Spirited Away? They can totally have hair!

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

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Hey! Be nice to Ettin! Ettin is nice! :colbert:

Also, I don't know who Greg Stafford and Sandy Peterson and Chaosium are, so...sorry, I guess.

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

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FWIW, I wish there was a story where some gibbering Lovecraftian horror came into our world and promptly died choking on mustard gas; sort of a "the horrors of the universe meet man's capacity for industrial grade slaughter" theme. Gas being one of the first weapons requiring an advanced scientific and industrial base and all. (Shells and bullets are sort of like that, but examples like Japan's cottage industry setup in WWII show that it's not quite as perfect an example as a weapon which requires a strong theoretical understanding of chemistry and big distillation towers to make.)

Then again, I also want to invade Cimmeria and Carcosa and Gor and all those other "sword and sorcery" worlds with picked (bishie) pilots and (bishie) battalions of soldiers under (lesbian) commanders, so maybe I'm not the best person to analyze early 20th century pop fiction.

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

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TheLovablePlutonis posted:

It is spelled 'Your'.

Are we going this route, then? Very well.

TheLovablePlutonis posted:

Its more generic than Forgotten Realms

"It's".

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

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Right! Let's try to find a topic that won't end in fratricidal clique wars!

Uhm...what's a part of world history that you think could be explored more in RPGs? I'd like some more non-Lovecraftian stuff from between WWI and the end of the Cold War but you probably already knew that.

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

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Ningyou posted:

speaking of churning, gnawing disappointment i guess it's steamsalesmas again?

Why do you have to bring up everyone else's opinion of me like that? :smith:

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

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So the spirit of anime is...good? Not good? I thought most of us liked anime?

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

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Queen Fiona posted:

Anime taught me that the greatest thing one can achieve in life is to turn others into your playthings. Perhaps not always by shrinking them down to doll size and putting them in a dollhouse with my all-consuming psychic powers, but I think it's worked out for me so far. :h:

I promise never to be defeated by getting licked by a ghost.

I thought your name was Fiona, not Sabrina? :psyduck:

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

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Command Modern Air/Naval Operations. Because I am the biggest grognard. :mil101:

Davin Valkri
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Queen Fiona posted:

How have you enjoyed it so far?

It's definitely a niche product, but it's pretty great. I still need some practice to not have typical pitched battles end in massive casualties on both sides (the only massive casualties should be on the red side!), but maybe someday I'll have silly scenarios based on Ace Combat missions. Because I'm THAT sort of grognard.

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

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Ningyou posted:

Oh golly, is this thread about the :frogsiren: Ouran Memorial Anime Sale :frogsiren: now?!?!

Goddammit, now I want a Command Modern Air/Naval Operations Area 88 Edition. Thanks, Ningyou.

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Davin Valkri
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I thought 2010s hackers looked more like, uh, Brown Moses and/or Julian Assange than these...strange, unkempt, people with thick sunglasses. Or Chinese/Turkish/US/DPRK/Russian/Libyan/Syrian/Saudi Arabian youth bypassing internet censorship?

Actually, you know what, let me join in on the 80s fun.

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