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wormil posted:Sister nurse is all over the place characterwise. One episode she's an alpha sociopath the next she's compassionate and subordinate. Initially I thought she was inconsistent because she was pretending but maybe she's bipolar or something. Or maybe she's none of those things... I think they basically established the guys runnning the show are differentiating between the townies and other... staff. So in that context it makes sense she would protect a fellow worker, but have disdain for the Pines residents.
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Frostwerks posted:I'm actually enjoying this loving stupid show in spite of itself. sums up the show perfectly, new thread title plz
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Jul 12, 2015 00:09
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That actress who plays the woman CIA agent can do really freaky things with her face.
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Jul 12, 2015 00:11
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So why is the teacher (who works for the project) trying to undermine the authority of the sheriff (who they just appointed)? I mean the show is not short on logic failures but I really don't get that one.
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Jul 12, 2015 01:09
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steinrokkan posted:That actress who plays the woman CIA agent can do really freaky things with her face. Should have gotten the woman playing the young version to be the Joker on Gotham instead of that weird looking kid. evenworse username posted:So why is the teacher (who works for the project) trying to undermine the authority of the sheriff (who they just appointed)? She fully buys into the first generation thing and doesn't want Ethan's ethics to infect someone who could be a leader in the future. They intentionally are trying to cause a gulf between child and parent, regardless. That part is at least coherent, she's a true believer in the project and kind of nuts, to boot.
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Jul 12, 2015 01:11
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Echophonic posted:Should have gotten the woman playing the young version It's the same woman.
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evenworse username posted:So why is the teacher (who works for the project) trying to undermine the authority of the sheriff (who they just appointed)? She focuses on her specific mission to the exclusion of other priorities. Basically the adult generation is disposable if they can preserve the children.
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Jul 12, 2015 01:52
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steinrokkan posted:I think they basically established the guys runnning the show are differentiating between the townies and other... staff. So in that context it makes sense she would protect a fellow worker, but have disdain for the Pines residents. Yeah I think it's the difference between the saviours and the saved. The first generation are innocent and are there to provide the future of humanity but their parents were the ones who rejected Pilcher and his message and were the ones responsible for the mess in the first place.
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Jul 12, 2015 02:05
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So, the two children who were less than 3 feet away from the bomb had a few scratches, but the driver of the truck who was farther away died with burns over 90% of his body?
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Jul 12, 2015 04:29
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Brocktoon posted:So, the two children who were less than 3 feet away from the bomb had a few scratches, but the driver of the truck who was farther away died with burns over 90% of his body? Don't you dare come in here with your science and facts and poo poo.
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Jul 12, 2015 04:31
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Brocktoon posted:So, the two children who were less than 3 feet away from the bomb had a few scratches, but the driver of the truck who was farther away died with burns over 90% of his body? They were closer and therefore immediately thrown through the side of the truck while the explosion blew through the middle of the truck and up into the cab. The driver had also doused himself in gasoline prior to getting in. Or, I guess the contents of those crates were enough to funnel the explosion.... Nah, I got nothing. I am enjoying this show a lot, though.
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Jul 12, 2015 04:41
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steinrokkan posted:It's the same woman. Oh, well then. They did a really good job making her look older, apparently. My Joker point still stands.
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Jul 12, 2015 04:42
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Echophonic posted:Oh, well then. They did a really good job making her look older, apparently. They actually made her look younger for the flashbacks. 
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Jul 12, 2015 04:48
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Wow, the truck hit the fence so hard it started to rain!
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Jul 12, 2015 04:48
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hollylolly posted:Nah, I got nothing. I'm used to suspending belief and science and plot holes to be entertained. Having the explosion and driving the truck through the wall in back to back weeks was lame though. Eh, fun enough summer show to watch with my wife so I'm going to flip that logic switch off again and see how they wrap this up.
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Jul 12, 2015 18:34
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Uh, so the sheriff learned earlier about the stolen truck, figured they'd use it to crash the gate, so, he... did nothing ? Why didn't he call the boss and they could have put snipers/vehicles at the gate? Have that helo look for the truck? Also wouldn't they notice a camera going down and watch nearby cameras / send someone over.
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PowerBuilder3 posted:Uh, so the sheriff learned earlier about the stolen truck, figured they'd use it to crash the gate, so, he... did nothing ? Wasn't this going on at the same time as all the behind the scenes/volunteer people were gathered and told the rules were changing and that camera-watcher #7 was going to be killed?
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Jul 13, 2015 19:17
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Brocktoon posted:So, the two children who were less than 3 feet away from the bomb had a few scratches, but the driver of the truck who was farther away died with burns over 90% of his body? I'm pretty sure they were lying behind a big thing of sandbags, or seeds or something. I think the change in Nurse Pam's character is character development, she used to be a True Believer but she's starting to realize that they kind of did a bad thing and it's not working out too well. I thought her reaction to Reggie admitting to deleting stuff showed that she felt- or is starting to feel- the same way he did.
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Jul 13, 2015 20:37
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anotherone posted:I'm pretty sure they were lying behind a big thing of sandbags, or seeds or something. Yeah, but for it to happen over the span of 12 seconds, with literally no other impetus, was pretty lazy.
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Jul 13, 2015 20:43
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I'm watching this show with my girlfriend and It's driving me insane. It's like a montage of unlikely decisions and plotholes. But I can't stop watching. WHY. Also I've been asking from the start why they bother publicly executing people when they could just freeze them. Instead of scaring dissidents into going undercover, they could just freeze up people who speak out and rotate in new citizens? As long as they repopulate with sex-brainwashed kids who cares if the adult populace lives bizzaro stephford wives life? They could just wake them up in the future and explain everything. The kids are on board already. Let me run this loving town!
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Jul 13, 2015 22:32
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blarzgh posted:Yeah, but for it to happen over the span of 12 seconds, with literally no other impetus, was pretty lazy. Maybe she's been tortured by it for awhile, maybe even since the "A" group. But yeah we certainly haven't seen it. What really doesn't make sense AT ALL is why Pilcher thought that people would be happy to find out that they'd been kidnapped and frozen for 2000 years. I wonder if all of humanity is Abbies or if there are also Eloi living underground or something. anotherone fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Jul 13, 2015 |
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Jul 13, 2015 23:42
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So did the books make this little sense too? Was it panned by critics or what?
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Jul 13, 2015 23:56
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Kin posted:So did the books make this little sense too? Was it panned by critics or what? Haven't read them, but the novel "Pines" has bee characterized by one of the podcasts I follow as " Blake Crouch's "Pines", an amazingly tepid twist-based thriller that's about to be an amazingly cancelled television series." It's probably just aggressively mediocre.
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Brocktoon posted:So, the two children who were less than 3 feet away from the bomb had a few scratches, but the driver of the truck who was farther away died with burns over 90% of his body? We don't talk about the past here. It's super lazy writing but they could have had a line about how lucky it was the kids were hiding behind reinforced concrete blocks or something. The driver I thought the cultists killed offscreen which is why the other rebels didn't want to go to the hospital. blarzgh posted:Yeah, but for it to happen over the span of 12 seconds, with literally no other impetus, was pretty lazy. That was one of the things that made sense to me since she laid out her reasoning. I don't think she has doubts about the program or cares much about the kidnapped town folk but once you start executing your loyal cultists and volunteers then you're going to create some serious problems like people asking how long is it going to be until I'm the one getting lynched.
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Jul 14, 2015 01:38
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Sister nurse doesn't just go from sociopathic to compassionate, she also went from assertive to milquetoast. Her entire character personality changed. Next episode she might be a librarian.
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Jul 14, 2015 05:05
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I don't even get why they need wayward pines when it seems like a shitload of people actually work for David Pilcher and are willing to follow him. Why deal with the headache of trying to build a town when you got all the right people right around you?
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Harminoff posted:I don't even get why they need wayward pines when it seems like a shitload of people actually work for David Pilcher and are willing to follow him. Why deal with the headache of trying to build a town when you got all the right people right around you? Because then Pilcher doesn't get to build his creepy school where the only lesson is 'why you should get to loving'. Alternatively: Because nothing in the dumb show makes sense (but it's weirdly watchable).
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Harminoff posted:I don't even get why they need wayward pines when it seems like a shitload of people actually work for David Pilcher and are willing to follow him. Why deal with the headache of trying to build a town when you got all the right people right around you? It seems like the operation supporting Wayward Pines is bigger than Wayward Pines, and full of volunteers who know the score. But yeah, it is weirdly watchable. Better than the strain.
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Harminoff posted:I don't even get why they need wayward pines when it seems like a shitload of people actually work for David Pilcher and are willing to follow him. Why deal with the headache of trying to build a town when you got all the right people right around you? Because he wanted to rebuild humanity with the best genes possible and have certain numbers of specific jobs, like plenty of doctors and teachers, and it'd be pretty hard to get all "the right" people to volunteer, so he just crashes cars into them and puts 'em in a freezer.
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Jul 14, 2015 10:37
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Honestly I think this show was written by gathering a bunch of 10 year olds in a room, giving them the premise, and then firing anyone who asked any questions.
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violetdragon posted:Because he wanted to rebuild humanity with the best genes possible and have certain numbers of specific jobs, like plenty of doctors and teachers, and it'd be pretty hard to get all "the right" people to volunteer, so he just crashes cars into them and puts 'em in a freezer. Even then, you presumably have a plenty of intelligent people who would realize the stakes as soon as you showed them that captive mutant, and maybe some footage of the ruined cities. Also if the goal was to capture the best America had to offer, what about the bartenders, and secretaries, and real estate agents... The only explanation that makes some sense is that he wanted the humanity to survive not only as a species, but also as a society, as it existed during his lifetime. And I guess his refusal to allow a new, post-apoc. soc. to emerge is a major source of problems.
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Jul 14, 2015 23:36
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I think the real answer is that the writers hadn't even come up with the idea of the vast behind the scenes stuff until they were literally shooting those scenes.
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Jul 14, 2015 23:39
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What, the book didn't have any of that stuff?
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dik-dik posted:Honestly I think this show was written by gathering a bunch of 10 year olds in a room, giving them the premise, and then firing anyone who asked any questions. This is an improvement from the 4 year olds writing Under the Dome. Has anyone watched Zoo? I detest Patterson, and I don't know if I could handle another hatewatch between this, UtD and The Whispers, but it's tempting.
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GreenNight posted:What, the book didn't have any of that stuff? Sorry, I know that the book existed long before the show was written and likely included all this bullshit, but it really has never felt to me as though one episode was even conceptualized before the previous episode was edited.
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steinrokkan posted:Even then, you presumably have a plenty of intelligent people who would realize the stakes as soon as you showed them that captive mutant, and maybe some footage of the ruined cities. Pilcher mentioned that he wanted to preserve human culture but in truth, he's more interested in building and preserving his toy town than anything else. dik-dik posted:I think the real answer is that the writers hadn't even come up with the idea of the vast behind the scenes stuff until they were literally shooting those scenes. Isn't this suppose to be pretty faithful to the book? This show has a lot of problems but I think there's so much more they could do with it. I just want to watch Fallout:Wayward Pines.
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SteveVizsla posted:This is an improvement from the 4 year olds writing Under the Dome. I couldn't get through episode 2 of Zoo. It is really, really, stupid.
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steinrokkan posted:Even then, you presumably have a plenty of intelligent people who would realize the stakes as soon as you showed them that captive mutant, and maybe some footage of the ruined cities. This is the most glaring thing (among a lot of other things) for me: why not just take Kate (the "resistance" leader, apparently) on a helicopter ride and/or show her a mutant? Problem solved.
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Jul 15, 2015 19:56
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Wouldn't work based on what we've seen from the meetings that she has had with the Dr. I'm pretty sure that she thinks that Ethan was drugged into seeing whatever he saw.
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