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demonR6
Sep 4, 2012

There are too many stupid people in the world. I'm not saying we should kill them all or anything. Just take the warning labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself.

Lipstick Apathy


TeamSpeak is dead, All hail Discord!

We are switching to a different platform and change is good! You can run it in the browser, from a stand alone app or even on your mobile device. The VOIP has been really good quality as well. Minus the shitload of custom tags we had in TS this does the job and it's free plus I don't have people pissed off at me about the server status.

https://discord.gg/0lSMRHzXe08HHOgr

Quick link to TeamSpeak server, click to go to server:

We are cohabitating with the World of Tanks & Warships TeamSpeak server and the TS address is 209.15.226.35:10937 and no password required at the request of the populous because using passwords is apparently hard. Due to that reason a complicated system of permissions that is making some of us pull our hair out had to be developed.. thanks goons. Any verified goon can give you permissions & tags, create your own channel and have at it. If you need us to create a specific channel please feel free to ask as well and mods will be happy to accommodate your request within reason i.e. no channel names or descriptions that promote hate speech and all that. Use common sense when you ask in other words.


There is an Armored Warfare beta test channel if you are playing and do not want to deal with shitters all by your lonesome.

What is World of Tanks?Armored Warfare?
Armored Warfare is yet another online shooter similar to the game we all love to hate, World of Tanks.. except this time the graphics aren't nearly so lovely, the tanks are modern and arty does not rain down it's cancerous love down from the sky quite as vicious as some claim it to be in WoT. The game developer is Obsidian Entertainment - yes the same guys as South Park: The Stick of Truth, Fallout New Vegas and some random Neverwinter Nights 2 titles I never cared for. Even though Obsidian is the developer, it's Russian just like WoT and published by Mail.RU which makes even less sense and you will probably be infected by some horrible virus but whatever.

What kind of tanks are in this game?
The main focus here are modern era (1950's to current) military combat vehicles including main battle tanks (MBT's), lightly armored recon vehicles (AFV's), and assortment of light tanks, tank destroyers and everyone's favorite.. artillery! Just look at the size of this loving cannon? Look at it!!




How is this different for that 'other' tank game?
It's not, I mean really how much can you do to reinvent the wheel? What it does offer is a different spin on the game with a destructible environment, a couple of seedy vendors to upgrade your tanks and the promise of some different twists in the upgrade path, HQ customizing and playing as a private military contractor.

I want to drag my friends into this, I want in..
Currently you can only get into the alpha, beta or whatever the gently caress they call it by buying a pre-order package on the site. Yes, give them money to let you play a game in beta, I know. Conversely if you submitted your name months ago and were selected to participate then you are already playing and don't need to read any of this.

I am unsociable and don't get along with others, how do I survive in a team game?
Good news just like every other game out there it's 15 vs. 14 vs. you. Teamwork consists of 14 individuals hell bent on their own agenda, losing at all costs. You can however form a 3-man platoon and hope to beat not only the opposing forces but your own team to gain glory on the pixel battlefield. Eventually the game will offer both PvP and PvE environments so the best of both worlds sort of?

I'll add more to it as information becomes available but my initial impressions are positive. The developer seems to me more involved with the community at this point which could be seen good and bad if every whine of "NERF THIS TANK ITS TOO OPPEEEE" brings doom then meh. The game still needs optimization but runs pretty smooth on my mid-range machine. It's running on the Cry Engine which for most is well known and stable with decent graphics.

More information at their website, just have your antivirus up to date because #russianhackersarereal. And here is an entire page of FAQ's by the developer that will make all your dreams come true.

You want screens? We have screens! These are in-game garage screens.
http://imgur.com/a/GILP6

demonR6 fucked around with this message at 23:28 on Jan 17, 2016

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demonR6
Sep 4, 2012

There are too many stupid people in the world. I'm not saying we should kill them all or anything. Just take the warning labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself.

Lipstick Apathy
UPDATE! 2.0 is here!

I've quit this game just like everything else in my life except meth so just what the hell is this 2.0 update and why do I care?

Well have we got news for you. Obsidian was donkey punched in the nuts a few months ago and My.com took over, the game went back to Russia and we know their track record with tank games? Update 2.0 is an attempt to fixed a hosed game by implementing some fix to balancing. In order to do this everything will go back to square one and the devs will un-gently caress everything bad that has happened so far. *insert laugh track* So a few things will happen in order to save the sinking ship:

- Soft reset -
Vehicles will be removed, some will be added, some will be down tiered. You might log in and find some vehicles will be wiped back to zero and all your progression is gone along with the spent reputation but fear not they will compensate you with credits.

- Vehicle progression line changes -
My.com's crack team of developers will move vehicles around in tiers while others disappear altogether. Trust me this is in our best interest according to them. Along with these changes there will be new vehicles added and they promise it will be more enjoyable for players.

- Graphics improvements -
Sure, great. I never had a problem so I guess this applies to scrubs with lovely computers.

- Gameplay mechanics -
Too much to list but they had to fix a lot to make things better. Stuff like ammo mechanics, AP, HEAT, HESH and HE shell damage get tweaked, vehicle armor & hit points will be rebalanced and a bunch of other poo poo. The list is long and quite ambitious.

There is an entire microsite for the changes linked here.

https://aw.my.com/us/news/general/introducing-update-019-tanks-reloaded



===== Useful Information =====

Look into wherever you installed the game and delete the torrent files so that you do not continue seeding after installation. The My.com launcher does not stop the seeding even if you deselect the option to continue seeding after you finish installing.

Whatever directory you installed into > Distrib > torrents (delete contents)

Thanks Agrajag!

===== Tank Commanders List =====

Thanks to Evil_Greven for this list, follow the link to his post with all the commanders as of 10/11/15

Evil_Greven posted:

Here are the commanders (I think this is all available right now?):









The three commanders without where they came from are default.

===== Retrofits & You =====

Snakes in a can posted:

Just a warning, i still have no idea how these interact with each other or if they even work open beta and all; (do they stack, is there a stacking penalty or do they multiply their effects?)



Wtf are retrofits and why should i use them?

Retrofits are basically the Equipment equivalent of WoT, some make you shoot faster, some make you go faster. Obsidian has scaled the price of them in relation to your vehicle tier., No more 500k GLD for my Tier 3 derp wagon

Unfortunately you need to unlock some of the retrofits from going down lines that should never use them EG BMP-3M

:smithfrog:



How do i unlock X retrofit?

Mouse over the retrofit you want and it tells you want tank you need to get to and research in-order to gain the schematic to use the retrofit.


What retrofits are good/should i use?

Nice thing about Obsidian's system is you can set the tank up how you like it! I happen to like alpha damage and accuracy so i prioritize those fits; Experimental propellant, Chrome barrel lining and magnetic articlautor is what i use on my MBT-70 so i improve my accuracy , aim time and damage.

Each of the tanks have unique retrofit layouts, so you cant usually stack 3 of the same types of mods (MBT-70 pay2win amirite?)

i would recommend using retrofits to either cover a tanks weakness ( MBT awful aim times) or enhance they already excellent stats (AFV view range)

What line gives the best upgrades for almost all my tanks?

Td's while great to play dont offer any decent retrofits.

M109 line offer's an excellent commander (Female that's great in MBT's) and good MBT upgrades also gives you an excuse to play arty

Leo line offers damage and accuracy, AND hull traverse + acceleration; line offers the most for all tanks.

BMP gives crew save + view range.

At-least i have a reason to grind lines that i probably don't want to play :smith:

System could do with some indication how it works mechanically but its intuitive and lets you play the way you want to play, i like it so far. :frogsiren:

===== Scouting 101 =====

Third World Reggin posted:

To be a good scout

Start the game saying "rommel was a war criminal"

Vision
The max draw distance in the game is 707 meters
Your orange circle is about 500 meters
Learn the vision ranges of tanks your tier. Mainly other AFVs and TDs. Light tanks, artillery, and main battle tanks, as a general rule, can not see far. There are exceptions to this like the Sheridan.
If you are being spotted by something you can't see, ask for arty help with smoke, flares, or just move to a new location.
Do not scout cities or areas without a long distance between you and any obstructions. Cities are the home of the MBT so stay out of cities unless you are scouting a really long road.
Stand still for 3 seconds to get +40 or +80 meters of vision based on your module.
A vision range of 400 or greater is a good vision range.

Camo
When needed, tap R or F once to maintain a slow speed to keep your camo value high.
The large tank indicator on the bottom left of the UI shows your bonus to camo on the bottom and shows your directional cover bonus in every direction.
Bushes help but are not required at all.
A camo rating above 0.20 means you have a good camo rating.

What to do
Look at the number of scouts, TDs, and MBTs before a match starts. Use this as a prediction of where the enemy might be and where your team will go.
If you have more scouts than the enemy, try to support MBTs or tackle for the artillery.
If you have more MBTs than the enemy, play cautious, camp, you will be needed late game.
You always have three options: Move foward, stay still, and move away. Do not forget those last two options.
Learn to count to 13, or maybe 15. Count the enemy dots on the map to learn where they are. Include dead people and artillery. You can use this to figure out where gaps are on the map.
The first 2 minutes are your time to shine. Don't die being stupid.
After the first two minutes, wait for 3 or 4 enemy tanks to die before moving out.
If 2 more minutes go by and your team isn't doing well, move somewhere else.
If you have an opportunity to ring the bell of shame by sitting on the cap point, do it, but make an exit strategy. If you pull 2 tanks away from the front line, your allies have to fight two less tanks.
Try to survive until the end game so that your MBTs will have a vision advantage over the enemy.

EDIT:

This will be your favorite commander.

Great observation on tier 6 tanks at the moment but YMMV:

NerdyMcNerdNerd posted:

I've now got every tier 6 in the game. In case anyone wanted one, here's a breakdown.

Centauro: More problems than you'd guess. Since the gun is placed far back on it's boat-like hull your gun depression isn't that great. Accuracy is more of a suggestion than anything else. Not as stealthy as you might think. Penetration is OK, and the damage is good when you hit things. Worse than the ERC.

VBL: God king of recon or clown car with a death wish depending on your matchmaking and if any Wiesels are on the enemy team. The cannon is anemic against MBTs ( unless you're behind them ), but when you can penetrate, it does a vicious amount of damage. Loads of fun.

T-72A: It's a somewhat better Ural that can shoot ATGMs. It's OK. Your driver's hatch doesn't get ERA, so protect your neck if you're fighting someone with ATGMs. Terminators can just sit there and dunk all four missiles right into your hatch.

XM1: Mobile, good gun, good armor. I use mine to bully MBT-70s around and it's funny every single time. Pretty good.

Bradley: This thing is death to all thin-skinned vehicles anywhere around it. It's fast, it does horrendous damage, and it's more armored than you'd think. A good player in a Bradley is a huge pain in the rear end. It's a lot like a BMP-2, but bigger and meaner.

BMP-3: A cannon, autocannon, and missiles. It still has no gun depression but Russian faerie magic lets you dink HE into the front of MBTs for hundreds of damage. Fun tank.

Leo 2AV: It's a bigger XM1 with somewhat worse armor and slightly better gun handling. Yay?

Stingray: The highs are very high and the lows are very frequent. People will scream at you for sniping because they think you're an MBT, but you have the armor of a toaster. It's fast, it's somehow fun, and it's more or less useless if you don't flank and can't snipe well. Autocannons will ruin your day.

demonR6 fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Apr 21, 2017

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

     sup
Don't forget that eventually (before open beta apparently) there's supposed to be actual PvE content.


Anyway, game is rad, it's world of tanks but by a developer that isn't insane and also seems to take well reasoned approaches to things like 'balance' and 'design' and 'user input' and stuff, so that's pretty cool. Also, modern tanks are cool as hell.


e: Oh and for this next testing phase they set it it to 3x XP and 8x cash bonuses, so I guess they want basically everyone to get to the highest current tier, which is cool.

hopterque fucked around with this message at 03:07 on Jun 9, 2015

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"
I got to the BMP-1 and it played like absolute rear end. I wonder why it didn't have a missile.

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

     sup

Panzeh posted:

I got to the BMP-1 and it played like absolute rear end. I wonder why it didn't have a missile.

It's supposed to have an early ATGM missile and I don't really understand why it doesn't, I think they might be adding it soon? A lot of upgrades and stuff are still super in flux so hopefully that happens.

Insert name here
Nov 10, 2009

Oh.
Oh Dear.
:ohdear:
I got the Swingfire during the first Early Access test and then immediately stopped playing because it was so bad. :( The issue is the crosshair ignores tanks and tries to hit the terrain behind the tank you're aiming at, which when combined with the Swingfire launching missiles upwards at a 45 degree angle means it's basically impossible to hit anything with it.

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

     sup
The patch is out, it's ~11 gigs.

Aesis
Oct 9, 2012
Filthy J4G
In before Sheridan wrecks everything again :v:

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

     sup
They removed the fantasy AP rounds from it so that should help a lot, at least with the HEAT rounds you have to be careful about where you aim when shooting at the front of a tank.

MeatloafCat
Apr 10, 2007
I can't think of anything to put here.
I should know better than to be excited about this, but it does look pretty good. Do tanks have gun launched missiles like Russian MBTs and the MBT-70/M60A2/Sheridan?

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

     sup
Yes, they do. ATGM damage seems bugged or something, but yeah tanks with gun-launchers can actually fire ATGMs.

demonR6
Sep 4, 2012

There are too many stupid people in the world. I'm not saying we should kill them all or anything. Just take the warning labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself.

Lipstick Apathy
Wait, did I read that right and it's an 11 GB patch?

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

     sup
Yeah, it's huge. Probably because they're more concerned about making the patching process easy on them right now than on us, so it might just be overriding files completely.

demonR6
Sep 4, 2012

There are too many stupid people in the world. I'm not saying we should kill them all or anything. Just take the warning labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself.

Lipstick Apathy
Well, if it's anything like last patch, start now because it was slow as balls.. like six hours slow.

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

     sup
Yeah, that's why I posted, it took me a couple hours because it was only downloading at about 2 MB/s even though my connection can do 5 times that.

wjs5
Aug 22, 2009
In on the ground floor, also i guess I will start the patch tonight.

demonR6
Sep 4, 2012

There are too many stupid people in the world. I'm not saying we should kill them all or anything. Just take the warning labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself.

Lipstick Apathy
Yeah I have a 60mb down and it crawls for me too. I can flawlessly livestream Tijuana donkey show porn without a hitch but can't get a decent download from AW.

Updated post #2 with patch notes and will continue to use that as a information source for everyone.

Anyone wanting to contribute please feel free to do so and I can add to the OP and yes I will credit you so you are special.

demonR6 fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Jun 10, 2015

Sarmhan
Nov 1, 2011

I'm looking forward to the T64 in this patch with the pen and HE nerfs. Also Sheridans relying on HEAT.

demonR6
Sep 4, 2012

There are too many stupid people in the world. I'm not saying we should kill them all or anything. Just take the warning labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself.

Lipstick Apathy
Hey they did not wipe so whatever you had since last beta is still in your garage! Bonus!

I'm working from home, playing in between on the EU server streaming Twitch at http://www.twitch.tv/demonr6 for a while.

demonR6 fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Jun 10, 2015

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

     sup
Armor actually being an effective thing now is great, although it makes the tier 5s legit scary if you're in something lower tier.

Insert name here
Nov 10, 2009

Oh.
Oh Dear.
:ohdear:
I got goon bloodlust and demon blew me up a couple of minutes ago :saddowns:

Also they fixed the Swingfire and it's hilariously good now

demonR6
Sep 4, 2012

There are too many stupid people in the world. I'm not saying we should kill them all or anything. Just take the warning labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself.

Lipstick Apathy
I created a battalion, their version on a clan and named it... DONG. This is already much more pleasurable than last test with the graphics optimization, ability to tweak the GUI plus other improvements to gameplay. We had fun running a 3-man and just rampaging through in our Scorpions killing people with run-and-gun carousel of death tactics.

What I really want to do is take some of the clan names like Chai, Roxy and the others that will get bent about it when it is not available. The chats I can imagine will be really really interesting.

"Hey that is our clan name.."

"No it's not."

"We use it in WoT and blah blah.."

"Okay, well it's mine now. Nyah nyah."

demonR6 fucked around with this message at 13:56 on Jun 11, 2015

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

I seem to be missing a bunch of textures and sounds.

demonR6
Sep 4, 2012

There are too many stupid people in the world. I'm not saying we should kill them all or anything. Just take the warning labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself.

Lipstick Apathy
There was a 329 MB update this morning. Not that it will fix your issue x.

I am pretty sure you can run a game integrity check from the My.com dashboard. Once the EU server goes live at 11 I will check and post back.

Open the My.com launcher, after you update the client from the Play drop down you have the option to 'Verify and fix installed game client files'.. try that?

demonR6 fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Jun 11, 2015

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

demonR6 posted:

There was a 329 MB update this morning. Not that it will fix your issue x.

I am pretty sure you can run a game integrity check from the My.com dashboard. Once the EU server goes live at 11 I will check and post back.

Open the My.com launcher, after you update the client from the Play drop down you have the option to 'Verify and fix installed game client files'.. try that?

Tried earlier, no joy. Will try again once I'm home.

wjs5
Aug 22, 2009
I was looking at the armor values and noticed that some of the resists are set like 1.00/1.00/1.00 and some are around .80/.80/.80 then on the other side 1.50/2.00/1.50. So the armor numbers can be more effective to differnt type of ammo or even LESS effective. AP/HE/SC

demonR6
Sep 4, 2012

There are too many stupid people in the world. I'm not saying we should kill them all or anything. Just take the warning labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself.

Lipstick Apathy
The My.com launcher will open even when the servers are no online and you can update the client and run the integrity check as well. I did that for shits & giggles before suggesting it to you. Also anyone who reads this and decides to look at it and sees the 'Delete game installation files' option, FYI removing that saves you 24 Gb but also forces you to download the entire package on the next update. This last patch was almost 11 Gb and if I had removed the game install files it would have been double the wait.

Battalion snipe bwahahaha...

demonR6 fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Jun 11, 2015

organburner
Apr 10, 2011

This avatar helped buy Lowtax a new skeleton.

This game is pretty fun, the low tiers seem fast paced combat wise so fare.

Wanna get that tiny car with the auto cannon.

Michi88
Sep 15, 2012

Still a Pubbie Magnet
How does it work!?
:livintrope:
Played a ton while i was on vacation during the first wave of testing, got into the BMD family of tanks, loved it! Sadly because of my shift i wont be able to play anymore testing except on weekends.
Already set on making my way down the APC line first, ATGMs make me happy and the auto-cannons with the way HE works at the moment is pretty fantastic which causes a wonderful amount of rage from the "I'm a MBT I shouldn't take damage from anything" crowd.
There was no better feeling then firing an ATGM at a fleeing tank and watching it trace in while they tried to run.

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

     sup
They changed the way HE works so you're not gonna be able to put a serious hurt on fat tanks from the front anymore.

Michi88
Sep 15, 2012

Still a Pubbie Magnet
How does it work!?
:livintrope:

hopterque posted:

They changed the way HE works so you're not gonna be able to put a serious hurt on fat tanks from the front anymore.

As long as damage can be done, they will rage. In a face to face fight the apc is screwed for sure.

demonR6
Sep 4, 2012

There are too many stupid people in the world. I'm not saying we should kill them all or anything. Just take the warning labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself.

Lipstick Apathy
When you play the LAV-150 be sure to pack the HE incendiary rounds.. anyone you hit will burn, even the MBT's like the T-62. When they catch on fire, even for an insignificant amount they tend to run because fire extinguishers are hard. I have burned down a few Scorpions who thought they had the upper hand then burst into flames.

wjs5
Aug 22, 2009

demonR6 posted:

The My.com launcher will open even when the servers are no online and you can update the client and run the integrity check as well. I did that for shits & giggles before suggesting it to you. Also anyone who reads this and decides to look at it and sees the 'Delete game installation files' option, FYI removing that saves you 24 Gb but also forces you to download the entire package on the next update. This last patch was almost 11 Gb and if I had removed the game install files it would have been double the wait.

Battalion snipe bwahahaha...



Yeah I would join something like that if I could get an invite or w/e not sure how it works for this game.

Cialis Railman
Apr 20, 2007

This is pretty much the tank game I wanted to play (ww2 is boring af) so I'm down for this.

Sarmhan
Nov 1, 2011

I had fun in my LAV-150 yesterday- got to flank a Leopard 1 and solo kill it, then kill the swingfire who was with it. Autocannons still do absurd DPM if you can get flanks off.
Also, the T-64 is seriously good now- the turret is immune to everything, and the upper glacis is pretty goodtoo. MBTs will go through your lower plate every time though.

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

     sup
Game is open all weekend, starting tonight.

demonR6
Sep 4, 2012

There are too many stupid people in the world. I'm not saying we should kill them all or anything. Just take the warning labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself.

Lipstick Apathy
gently caress me last night was a miserable gaming night. I think our platoon lost every match and they were all run away, one-sided poo poo fests where half the team was wiped out before we even had a chance to get into position. The culmination of the evening was running into the three fucktards from PBKAC who had a tier 7, 6 & 5 top tier in a tier 3 match. We were thoroughly and completely poo poo on. Everything I shot at the tier 7 was a ricochet.. three full on side shots from the M60 which should have done something.

We switched to botes and that was not better so we quit for the evening. I can't do failcascades anymore like I used to.

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

     sup
So this is the time when the EU servers normally come on but apparently they accidentally started the US server instead of the EU one.


Whoops!

Michi88
Sep 15, 2012

Still a Pubbie Magnet
How does it work!?
:livintrope:

demonR6 posted:

gently caress me last night was a miserable gaming night. I think our platoon lost every match and they were all run away, one-sided poo poo fests where half the team was wiped out before we even had a chance to get into position. The culmination of the evening was running into the three fucktards from PBKAC who had a tier 7, 6 & 5 top tier in a tier 3 match. We were thoroughly and completely poo poo on. Everything I shot at the tier 7 was a ricochet.. three full on side shots from the M60 which should have done something.

We switched to botes and that was not better so we quit for the evening. I can't do failcascades anymore like I used to.

I kind of wanted to play this weekend, but I'm hesitant because I know I'll be on the lower end of this, and can only make up so much damage while the team melts.

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Warbadger
Jun 17, 2006

Michi88 posted:

I kind of wanted to play this weekend, but I'm hesitant because I know I'll be on the lower end of this, and can only make up so much damage while the team melts.

They upped the XP and credits gained per battle by a ton. You'll blow through the early tiers.

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