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Rollofthedice posted:I highly recommend it, though starting with the furry episodes is sorta jumping straight into the podcast's deep end when it comes to disgusting hilarity. I'll admit to not being sure what bought many of the older furs into the scene- I'd guess the answer is very much varied from person to person. Why do women stay in the fandom? Well, at the risk of sounding sexist I think J came in for even more attention than most because she's genuinely real-world good looking (not just 'furry-hot') and is a very friendly person who will talk to anyone. She stuck around because she loved the activity of fursuiting and had a lot of good friends in the fandom. I also mentioned in the previous post that there are quite a few furry women who seem to thrive on the attention and create little crowds of hangers-on that follow them around, back them up and bolster their egos. Obviously, that's not all women that get involved, but there's a significant minority. Others? Some stick around because they do art or make fursuits and it's a rich market to tap, others.. hell, I don't really know. I don't actually have a huge number of female furry friends tbh. I've touched on race in my previous post, but as for transgender etc furs.. Well, my bestest buddy (met through furry, played in a band together, have travelled all over the place together, spend more time with her than anyone other than J) is a transwoman, so I'll get her verdict on that- oddly the transfur experience is something we've not really discussed in 12 years of close friendship. Will get back to you on that. Edit: Changed around this post a bit. I was phoneposting while playing Witcher 3, and my sentences ended up meandering and being less than clear. Apologies! Camrath fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Jun 11, 2015 |
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Rollofthedice posted:Why do women stay in the fandom if they're treated so badly? How do they deal with all that poo poo? For a long time the majority of women/girls in the fandom were artists. The further back you go, at least since the mucks/internet was rolling, the more that dichotomy was present. Still I'd argue that a disproportionate percentage of ladies, attractive ones especially, are artists in some capacity (a clear majority of fursuit makers are women.) Though as the community has been getting straight-er I've been seeing more and more women and girls getting into it, making the community a lot more polite/aware/not awful because it's getting a little less rainbow explosion homosexual every day. In most cases I've seen ladies deal with it by forming their own defensive friend groups and being super wary of randos, at least at cons. I've lived in a few all-fur households (with varying degrees of success) and usually the anti-woman hostility and gross sexism just comes out of full-on militant-gently caress-breeders-homosexuality and sheltered dudes too gross and inexperienced to understand what's decent (and lacking peers to tell them that kind of behavior is wrong.) Some ladies are all into being grossly objectified and about that casual sex but I wouldn't say the ratio on that front is meaningfully different between men and women.
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DeliciousPatriotism posted:I firmly disagree with a lot of those points, in particular the idea that an independent entity can't be playful, but I totally get what you're at here. Also if you've ever owned ferrets you would know that restlessness can apply to animals as well: they're either getting their fill of exploration, attention and fun for the day or they start developing depression and behavior problems. No, you're still not getting what I'm saying. "Restless" isn't a natural attribute of the animal, it's what happens to the animal if it's natural state is interrupted. Ferrets in the wild aren't 'restless', they just go about their ferret stuff all day long. It'd be true to say that ferrets have a high energy level or something, but 'restless' is a human emotional state, not applicable to an animal except when you gently caress up that animal's natural state, and then what you're seeing isn't 'restlessness', really, it's just "I'm being prevented from doing what comes naturally to me". Even when you say a 'wolflike thing', it's not. The only part about it that is 'wolflike' is the way it looks, and even then it's a caricature. I'd say, in a way, that furries are into cartoon versions of animals--in both senses of the word--not real versions of them. Though, perhaps the zoophiles are different--i'd like to think the actual animal-fuckers are different than the sad awkward nerd types. But anyway, that's a minor quibble because you got the rest of what I was saying fine. It's not really about the animals, it's the same as the people who talk about being otherkin or psychic vampires or whatever; the point and the reality of it is in the social communion of it, not an actual personal identity. That's part of why furries who claim persecution because it's just like gay people being oppressed, man, are so annoying. quote:Yeah, this. There's no high church of furry dictating the rules, though some (awful) people will say that. It's human social cliques, the animal part is a fun theme ranging from sexless creative outlet to oversexed and unsocialized catastrophe. I think this speaks to why it was, in retrospect, damaging and harmful for the OP, or at least limiting and time-wasting. It's a clique, going by clique rules, and the 'social' skills you learn in the clique don't really transfer over. It's got it's in-group socialization and it's explicitly not about learning to get along in the way non-cliquey social groups do.
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I'd not looked at it specifically in those terms before, but again, what you're saying makes sense. I have an inbuilt loathing of cliquishness and exclusion, and as I became more involved in it at a higher level this added to my disgust at the entire fandom as a whole. Edit: Heading out now for dinner and an early night. Don't burn the thread down while I'm gone, plz? 
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Camrath posted:I literally just saw this a minute or two ago. It basically looks like 'Furry, the movie'. What have they done... WHAT HAVE THEY DONE?!  (seriously though that movie looks awesome  )edit: Okay, thanks to IRC now I know Rule34 has already been activated on that fox and bunny  ShadowCatboy posted:That looks pretty great, actually. Honestly I'm glad the genre hasn't been completely ruined for Hollywood. I grew up with junk like Redwall, Secret of NIMH, Robin Hood, etc. It was all really wonderful cute fun and after the internet destroyed my innocence I was always worried that movies with anthro characters would be p much tainted material. I knew you'd show up in this thread eventually, Catboy  Camrath posted:Furry Force is hilarious, but it's not made by furries. I swear I read or saw an interview with the creator of that where he admitted he was in the fandom at some point of his life. Hedrigall fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Jun 11, 2015 |
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Obdicut posted:No, you're still not getting what I'm saying. "Restless" isn't a natural attribute of the animal, it's what happens to the animal if it's natural state is interrupted. Ferrets in the wild aren't 'restless', they just go about their ferret stuff all day long. It'd be true to say that ferrets have a high energy level or something, but 'restless' is a human emotional state, not applicable to an animal except when you gently caress up that animal's natural state, and then what you're seeing isn't 'restlessness', really, it's just "I'm being prevented from doing what comes naturally to me". Well if you've ever seen a ferret in a cage, it's restless, but I actually do get what you're saying. Domestication by design is loving up an animal's natural state and shifting it into something else. You could argue being human in this human world is being perpetually in an unnatural state. But talking structured behavior and Foucault is for another thread. Obdicut posted:Even when you say a 'wolflike thing', it's not. The only part about it that is 'wolflike' is the way it looks, and even then it's a caricature. I'd say, in a way, that furries are into cartoon versions of animals--in both senses of the word--not real versions of them. Though, perhaps the zoophiles are different--i'd like to think the actual animal-fuckers are different than the sad awkward nerd types. <noun>-like can be any kind of parody, re-appropriation, or accurate attempt at a truthful expression so I'd say that even a caricature can apply there. I think you're being a bit over-literal when you're talking about something being specifically, naturally wolf-like in your example because short of involved scientific texts about <animal A> or direct observation of <animal A> . It seems like you'd consider anything trying to relate to <animal A> at all is just caricature, which is a fair point to raise (one that a lot of people in the community should consider it more) but as thinking, sentient mammals I think it's much easier (and at times accurate) for us to empathize or relate in functionally general ways with other thinking mammals. Loneliness, happiness, confusion and others are some of those universal feelings we know a lot of living beings share. But given that we can't read their minds, it'll be never "true" mimickry and it's all about how we interpret what we see. Over-yapping on this but I find the subject fascinating. When it comes to legit zoophiles in my 11 years I've only met one for sure in passing and another one I've had suspicions about. In both cases it was all about dogs and both were attractive but unpleasantly manipulative people. The latter was particularly dedicated to mimicking the behavior of dogs sexually and is deep into the BDSM pup-play scene, which despite appearances doesn't seem to be "truly" furry. But that overlap. Obdicut posted:I think this speaks to why it was, in retrospect, damaging and harmful for the OP, or at least limiting and time-wasting. It's a clique, going by clique rules, and the 'social' skills you learn in the clique don't really transfer over. It's got it's in-group socialization and it's explicitly not about learning to get along in the way non-cliquey social groups do. I've seen the community both help and harm people in a lot of different ways, his tale would piss off any rational person and I'm glad he jumped ship. It's a roll of the dice when you first join and what rules you're going to end up taking to heart when trying to belong. Kinda considering doing my own ask thread about being still involved shamelessly after 11 years and being a grown-rear end employed college-educated dude (I could write multiple books on the horrors and joy I've witnessed.) When I was first getting into it I was a part of some really loving gross circles, it's a wonder I didn't turn out some hosed up, unsocialized yiffy mess trying to keep my new "accepting" friends. As I said earlier, I've dropped in and out a couple times for reasons not unlike his. To this day I still have issues with the "limiting and time-wasting" part, I recently did Califur in Irvine and it was the biggest waste of time/money I've had in my entire life. For days I've been in a tailspin wondering why I was so willing to waste a weekend on that, I've felt guilty and gross. Every time I've been less involved with the community I've been more into my own thing, traveled more, spent more money on myself than hosting people, etc. and often felt happier for it. It can suck you in and leave you obligated, with the wrong crowd and at the wrong times you will quite be literally wasting your life doing things that don't do anything positive for you. Going to 5 cons a year to see my 100 friends I've known for up to 10 years is a great thing at times but it's not worth shelving my dream adventure-vacation traveling from Bosnia to Istanbul to Turkish Kurdistan with my best friends, for example.
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DeliciousPatriotism posted:but as thinking, sentient mammals I think it's much easier (and at times accurate) for us to empathize or relate in functionally general ways with other thinking mammals. Loneliness, happiness, confusion and others are some of those universal feelings we know a lot of living beings share. I think that when you stray away from the most basic of emotions, like the above, into stuff like 'restless' and 'playful', you're anthropomorphizing. A wolf being lonely because there aren't other wolves around is not the same as the nerdy kid being lonely because he doesn't have any friends. They both might share a basic discomfort that they lack a social group, but humans can be lonely in the midst of a crowd, we can be happy and sad at the same time, etc. Given the immense difference in brain structure and other stuff, saying that there are universal 'feelings' doesn't ring at all true to me. I don't think we experience them in the same way animals do, and I don't think animals experience them in the same way as other animals; I think we project that onto them. As to the both helping and harming thing: I think compared to zero socialization, a clique is better, but that's compared to nothing. It is definitely not better than non-clique friendships where you don't have some artificial, exterior thing that bonds you together but actually just like each other despite being different and not having some common ground to cling onto. To me, there is a huge difference between socialization inside a medium--be it being a furry, or being on a sports team, or a magic group, or trainspotters--and socialization where it's just people liking each other with nothing acting to draw them together. One of the harms of cliques is that they necessarily include people who, if you didn't have that common thing, you'd prefer to not socialize with, or even would vociferously reject.
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Hedrigall posted:I knew you'd show up in this thread eventually, Catboy Shoosh that's not the reason and you know it.
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Camrath posted:I literally just saw this a minute or two ago. It basically looks like 'Furry, the movie'. Furries actually did a movie and my god is it as awful as you'd expect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaL4YJbXUys
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Would it be a good idea to issue carry permits for fursuits color coded by genus? It would let parents rest easy knowing that the person their kid's petting currently is an upstanding member of society, and not just some guy who read Hesse's Steppenwolf a bit too literally.
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Interesting thread. I'll be honest, pretty much everything I read here is absolutely bizarre to me.Vic posted:Would it be a good idea to issue carry permits for fursuits color coded by genus? You keep bringing that point up. Pedos don't work that way. Thinking pedos work by being obviously creepy and confined to some non-mainstream social group is harmful because it results in actual pedos getting away while you're on a wild goose chase*. Look for pedophiles in positions of power, and in positions involving little oversight and a lot of contact with children. Creepy dudes in fursuits tend to fall in the REALLY OBVIOUS AND HARD TO IGNORE category, and I can't really imagine them doing anything criminal while they're in the suit and in public view. *pun intended my dad fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Jun 12, 2015 |
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Tracula posted:Furries actually did a movie and my god is it as awful as you'd expect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaL4YJbXUys That's by the Room 366 guys, right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1Amh2MfJ4U -
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my dad posted:Look for pedophiles in positions of power, and in positions involving little oversight and a lot of contact with children. Creepy dudes in fursuits tend to fall in the REALLY OBVIOUS AND HARD TO IGNORE category, and I can't really imagine them doing anything criminal while they're in the suit and in public view.
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my dad posted:Interesting thread. I'll be honest, pretty much everything I read here is absolutely bizarre to me. I'll be honest, all you guys telling me about how pedos really work, although really convincing, didn't mention this scenario: This does not happen at a convention in public. Little timmy knows these grownups in masks are just fun loving fuzzy big kidders so what's wrong with hanging out? Now of course I realize this is a bit far fetched. There are actual animal fuckers and nazis and other weirdos that are drawn to this kind of thing. Hell even a few pedos who got caught but that's a small percentage of the whole, and it wasn't furry related even. But maybe, we shouldn't be dismissing this when it comes to kids, especially because we're in a thread about a bitter angry former furry who we're all collectively praising for leaving the community as an adult for it being toxic.
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Vic posted:I'll be honest, all you guys telling me about how pedos really work, although really convincing, didn't mention this scenario: What the hell are you talking about? When would this possibly happen? It's more than far-fetched. As someone said above, these lunatic scenarios distract from the way that pedophiles actually get access to children. You started out weird and are getting weirder.
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Obdicut posted:What the hell are you talking about? When would this possibly happen? It's more than far-fetched. As someone said above, these lunatic scenarios distract from the way that pedophiles actually get access to children. You bring some good points. When I think about it there's really nothing wrong with letting children socialize with adults in masks pretending to be big animals. Camrath posted:I can totally understand where the concern originates, but at the same time I think it's a grotesque overreaction. There have been several people sent down for paedophilia from the UK community (including one guy who was quite a good friend of mine), though none for anything actually related to furry. And nobody at all knew until the news broke. I mean as long as they have their fursuits on.
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Vic posted:I'll be honest, all you guys telling me about how pedos really work, although really convincing, didn't mention this scenario: Edit: Eh, not gonna kick that beehive. But really though you're seeming really loving obsessive over this you know. Tracula fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Jun 12, 2015 |
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Did you ever play Furcadia? I was like twelve and I thought the game sounded interesting -- build your own character and content and explore it with other players! -- and the free pricetag matched my budget. I had never heard of furries, and didn't realize it was a furry game. Then I stumbled onto some guy's sex dungeon and was very confused.
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Just how lucrative is being a furry artist? Can it make someone as much money as a full time job? Could a talented artist live a comfortable life if he/she was without scruples on drawing crazy poo poo? (How would that get filed on their taxes?) Also, there might not be an answer for this, but - I've always thought that furries' love for Disney is a bit ironic, because I've always doubted that Disney wants any of their employees to be associated with that community. Am I mistaken? Can [insert famous furry artist here] land a spot as a Disney animator or something if they really went for it? edit: in line with ashgromnies: do furries play a lot of games like furcadia, second life, and anything else that allows them to create their fursonas? Or is that totally 2005? Chelb fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Jun 12, 2015 |
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Rollofthedice posted:Just how lucrative is being a furry artist? Can it make someone as much money as a full time job? Could a talented artist live a comfortable life if he/she was without scruples on drawing crazy poo poo? (How would that get filed on their taxes?) The latest thing is auctioning off commissions*. Some of the big artists get $200+ for one artwork. If you can pop out 5 or more of those a week it's not a bad income, I reckon. But only the very top tier would consistently sell stuff like that. Maybe only 10-20 artists in the entire online scene can live like that full time with no other income. There's also a slew of things like Patreon that are getting popular. *Especially of the "YCH" (your character here) variety where it's pretty much a near-fully-sketched scene, and people bid HUGE amounts to be the character in the focal position of the artwork. Then the artist just fills in the details. Hedrigall fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Jun 12, 2015 |
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Rollofthedice posted:Just how lucrative is being a furry artist? Can it make someone as much money as a full time job? Could a talented artist live a comfortable life if he/she was without scruples on drawing crazy poo poo? I can answer this, because I have a lot of artist friends who give no shits about drawing literally anything. Furries pay a poo poo ton, especially if you're willing to dig into the community and pander. I'm talking to the degree that friends have received free multi-thousand dollar pieces of equipment to do work with as gifts or payment for artwork. Living a comfortable life really comes down to less of the community and more of the artist's marketing skills and ability to handle large workloads. This isn't really a furry thing, though. This applies to drawing adult artwork period. People will pay serious cash to see their fetishes drawn. I have done taxes for these friends, I have seen all of their paypal & bank statements, and some of them have made some serious bank. The most prolific of them was in the mid 40s, the rest sat between 20k and 30k. This does not include numbers that happened to not make it into the books. Obviously more is possible, and in the era of Patreon, well... Sakimichan is not a furry artist, but she is good at targeting a market and creating value. edit: I just saw your edit to filing it on their taxes. Paypal issues you a 1099-K for making a combined 200 qualified sales and 20,000 in earnings. You can also manually report it below that. Tsurupettan fucked around with this message at 05:23 on Jun 12, 2015 |
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Yeah, I supposed that Patreon's been proving a big boon to furries, but... holy poo poo. I did not expect those numbers. How sustainable is an income like that? I've always been of the mindset that "if you need the money so much that you'll draw disgusting poo poo for sexually depraved weirdos, you probably need to reconsider your personal ethics and life choices", but if some people can seriously make over 40k doing that I can't really blame them. Well, maybe I can blame them a little. But not a lot. Chelb fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Jun 12, 2015 |
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Vic posted:You bring some good points. When I think about it there's really nothing wrong with letting children socialize with adults in masks pretending to be big animals. Man you're a loving drag and have been a transparent idiot this entire thread. Furries are stupid and ridiculous but you've somehow managed to top them, while attempting to try to make them out to be some ridiculous society-threatening straw man. There's something wrong with letting your child hang out with any adult they meet on the street. Why would you let your child "hang out" with any adult? What the gently caress?
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Rollofthedice posted:Yeah, I supposed that Patreon's been proving a big boon to furries, but... holy poo poo. I did not expect those numbers. Patreon is fascinating because it's such an easy redistribution of wealth! It also has very little to do with furries and is predicated entirely on marketing ability and creating value. In addition to being, y'know, a solid artist. Sakimichan herself works 40-60 hours a week and her quality has suffered for it. But she creates significant value (art that fits people's desires, learning tools, and other things) that drives it. She has reached over 3,300 people. They give her an average of $8.35 each every 2 weeks. That's a hell of an easier number to swallow than giving someone $200 up front for a commission. It's really as sustainable as you're willing and able to make it. The topic of making serious bank off drawing porn isn't really a furry phenomenon, as I said. Bankrolling yourself from smut while striving for an actual end-goal that doesn't involve porn is way more common than you think. Many artists just compartmentalize it and keep those lives (and names, of course) separate. e: Sakimichan is obviously an exception and not the rule, but if anyone was going to strive to live off patreon she'd be the poster child for it at this point. Plain ol' commissioning is another thing and takes a different approach.
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That's fascinating. I'd imagine that working so hard drawing so much stuff would make someone pretty susceptible to carpal tunnel and arthritis down the line. Do a lot of furry artists have that sort of gameplan someone like Sakimichan has? That is, if a furry ever made enough bank to retire with or pay for her long term goals, how quickly would she just jump ship from the community altogether? (actually, I bet that female furries and male furries would react differently in such a situation.)
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Rollofthedice posted:That's fascinating. I'd imagine that working so hard drawing so much stuff would make someone pretty susceptible to carpal tunnel and arthritis down the line. Get yourself a nice chair and a monitor arm for your $3,000 Cintiq. As for your questions, that's not really feasible to answer from my POV, beyond my small sample size of friends. Depends if they genuinely enjoy it, depends what their end-game is, depends on a lot of factors. You could strike it big with your not-furry art and end up with a contract working on a game. You could get poo poo for the year and just live off selling smut. It's more of viewing it as a layered interaction. For my friends, if/when they can ditch it because their time to shine elsewhere has come, they'd likely drop it in a heartbeat. But it's a nice backup plan. Especially if you've got a fan base, they'll often end up rabid (no pun intended) for more work and be there if you need to return. For someone who was personally invested in the community, I'm sure it's a vastly different story.
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Wasn't there an ask/tell thread from a while ago where some people talked about being artists, having to draw strange poo poo, what they said no to despite the money, etc? I know it got locked and maybe even gassed because how badly it went to poo poo with all the bickering.
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Tracula posted:Wasn't there an ask/tell thread from a while ago where some people talked about being artists, having to draw strange poo poo, what they said no to despite the money, etc? I know it got locked and maybe even gassed because how badly it went to poo poo with all the bickering. I remember one that was "Ask us about drawing [something] for money" but I don't remember what the [something] was. Maybe "weird stuff"? Really not sure.
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And I'm up again. First off.. Vic, I'm afraid you sound completely and totally batshit insane now. I've tried to engage with you and be polite, but I'm afraid now I have to conclude you're either mental or trying to troll. Can I ask all the other posters here just to not bother engaging with the guy? I don't know what his angle is, but it's getting too weird for my blood. Now, other stuff raised. Tracula: I was at the EF where Bitter Lake was premiered. We had to wait more than an hour for the show to start; it was hot and smelly and generally uncomfortable. And then the movie started and it got even more uncomfortable. I lasted about three minutes before saying 'gently caress this' quite loudly and walking out. It really is painfully bad, isn't it? I've never actually seen it all the way through. Tsurupettan, thanks for your input on furry art and the like. I'll admit, I've never been massively close to any artists (aside from the whole Kenket/Blotch thing I described earlier) and I'm genuinely shocked at how much money is actually in it. Though I guess I shouldn't be. One thing I will say is this though. J makes costume and props etc for her business- things like kigus, plush toys and the like at first. She started off marketing to the furry community, but soon discovered that furries are unbelievably annoying to sell to- between being slow on payment, dickering constantly about price, expecting deep discounts, asking for incredibly fussy changes to be made too late on. Nowadays she sells to LARPers and genuinely seems to enjoy her work, as well as making a /shitload/ more cash from it. Edit: A quote directly from J: 'They pay you a pittance for your time, and expect seven-star service.' Ashgrommies: I never played furcadia, second life or any of those style of games- though J actually got into the fandom through Second Life, pretty much (her fursona was based on a second life character). My crack for the longest time was MU* games- and I use the word 'crack' advisedly. I had a horrible addiction to them lasting from 99 up until 2010, when I suddenly realised that I was spending more time worrying about fictional characters and their relationships than for example, getting myself a girlfriend IRL. Coupled with a realisation about how utterly broken most of the people playing on those games were. To be honest, it was kind of a forerunner of my realisations about the Furry fandom. Camrath fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Jun 12, 2015 |
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What did your friends and family think of your participation in furry culture, if they knew at all? Did you have any falling out when you decided to call it quits? How do you feel about The Lion King now?
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Seems you joined the Something Awful forums while you were not really apart of the scene, would you have joined the forums if you were still really into it despite goon constant furry bashing and yiff noises at the time?
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MaliciousOnion posted:What did your friends and family think of your participation in furry culture, if they knew at all? My family were pretty much 100% supportive. My mum actually helped make my first tail. One time in 2000 a couple of furry friends met up with me (one of which would become my fiancee three and a half years later) and we decided to go and see the Lion King stage show down in town. We all got painted up like lions- with my folks both helping and taking pictures- then went down into town, got tickets and went to see the show, while wearing our paint. I actually got to chat to the guy who played Simba as they told the cast about us. We practiced roaring at each other. My folks thought it was wonderful and adorable. As for my friends, there was never any arguments or falling outs or anything, but my non-furry friends sort of faded out of my circle. Admittedly, this was also when we were all leaving school and going to uni/gap years, so I sort of ascribed it to that. Now I think about it, the furry thing might have been a factor that went unmentioned, but eh. quote:Did you have any falling out when you decided to call it quits? Not directly, though I stopped communicating with a /lot/ of my friends simply because I only did so in the context of furmeets or furry social media spaces. I took the view that if anyone tried to keep in touch, I'd look at it on a case-by-case basis but most just didn't bother. Screw 'em. quote:How do you feel about The Lion King now? The same rueful way that one thinks of your first proper love affair. Nostalgic love mixed with sadness. If that's too melodramatic, I don't really feel anything about it at all most of the time as it doesn't feature in my thoughts.
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Manic Mailman posted:Seems you joined the Something Awful forums while you were not really apart of the scene, would you have joined the forums if you were still really into it despite goon constant furry bashing and yiff noises at the time? Interesting question. I'd not really thought about it from that angle. I'd say that I was at the right level of disenchantment with the fandom, and actually joining SA helped prolong that, up until I started having a good time with the furry scene again. But I did still identify as a furry when pressed in those days. Frankly I just didn't post very much for a very long time. I actually only found SA because of furry in the first place. I found out about this ALOTD: http://www.somethingawful.com/awful-links/awful-link-1415. The gentleman or lady in question (I never did find out if they were trans or literally just mental) was well known in the Londonfurs community, and was so utterly and completely mad, and obviously so, that I didn't feel it was right for him to be bullied. I went in to defend him, but then he announced by email to the entire Londonfur community that he made a habit of fingering his cat. I obviously stopped fighting his corner at that, but I'd started regularly reading the frontpage and glancing over the forums and decided to stick around.
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Jun 12, 2015 17:57
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Are there any furries whose fursona is a human, and they dress up in full-body plush human suits?
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Jun 12, 2015 20:33
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What's with the furry parade thing you're talking about? It seems really weird. Is the purpose to entertain non-furry people? Let people know about furries? Or just to garner attention? I super don't get it if you didn't make the fursuit or whatever yourself. What are you showing off, then? I've attended quite a few gaming cons, and even the art centered ones never really had anything like a parade, just a costume contest. And that con happens on or right before Halloween. I think the technology in some of the suits sounds neat, though. Not the SPH part, but the moving jaws and such.
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Jun 12, 2015 21:32
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Domus posted:What's with the furry parade thing you're talking about? It seems really weird. Is the purpose to entertain non-furry people? Let people know about furries? Or just to garner attention? I super don't get it if you didn't make the fursuit or whatever yourself. What are you showing off, then? I've attended quite a few gaming cons, and even the art centered ones never really had anything like a parade, just a costume contest. And that con happens on or right before Halloween. Generally to entertain the public, and I think most suiters would list that as their primary reason. There is an element of attention whoring and exhibitionism involved, together with either showing off ones skills or possessions.
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Jun 12, 2015 21:41
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Manic Mailman posted:Seems you joined the Something Awful forums while you were not really apart of the scene, would you have joined the forums if you were still really into it despite goon constant furry bashing and yiff noises at the time? Don't worry, the evil, evil furry bashing only applies in good sub-forums, so there's lot of space for you to realize your terrible self.
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