asdf32 posted:The post leading off with "international trade" was me being generous to you for comparing trade in an era pre-dating even decent ocean-going sailing vessels with modern globalization. What I would like you to do, at this point, is look over your posts on the previous page, quote them all in the same post, and provide a definition of "globalization" that is consistent across all of them. Since this will not happen, I suppose I'm just going to have to pretend that you were struck dead by God after making this post, because discussion is clearly impossible.
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Effectronica posted:What I would like you to do, at this point, is look over your posts on the previous page, quote them all in the same post, and provide a definition of "globalization" that is consistent across all of them. Since this will not happen, I suppose I'm just going to have to pretend that you were struck dead by God after making this post, because discussion is clearly impossible. Alternatively you could google "globalization" and either marvel at how my posting is consistent with it or clarify how it's not.
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Nov 25, 2015 05:04
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asdf32 posted:Alternatively you could google "globalization" and either marvel at how my posting is consistent with it or clarify how it's not. Let's all shed some tears for asdf32, struck down by the Lord for saying 100% and 1000% were "practically equal".
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Nov 25, 2015 05:07
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Effectronica posted:Let's all shed some tears for asdf32, struck down by the Lord for saying 100% and 1000% were "practically equal". Or lack of verbal acuity. Though I'm suddenly reminded how that doesn't translate into aptitude for other topics (such as understanding the relative costs of hypothetical wage increases to the economy) as much as one might assume.
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Nov 25, 2015 05:28
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The 'Discovery' of America marks a shift from the planet having many small, simple human states towards secular transcontinental nations, mass literacy, high technology, near-instant travel, and all the other little things we take for granted today. Lots of good and bad things fit into this narrative - and it is on us to only advance the good into the future.
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Nov 25, 2015 05:35
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Effectronica posted:What I would like you to do, at this point, is look over your posts on the previous page, quote them all in the same post, and provide a definition of "globalization" that is consistent across all of them. Since this will not happen, I suppose I'm just going to have to pretend that you were struck dead by God after making this post, because discussion is clearly impossible. Maybe you should do that then since itd actually advance your argument if you were able to, you know, show something to back your argument? Not for or against you here...
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Nov 25, 2015 05:52
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Boon posted:Maybe you should do that then since itd actually advance your argument if you were able to, you know, show something to back your argument? Well, since asdf32, RIP, responded to me pointing out that he used "globalization" to refer to trade generally (doing this implicitly and explicitly) by ignoring it, there's not much point in writing it at tedious length unless I were aware this would aid understanding, because I have basically zero desire to treat this as debate rather than discussion. In fact, given that he gave a definition of "globalization" that didn't say poo poo about containerization and then pretended he had made containerization part of that definition a post or so later, it seems as though he's a liar plain and simple, or else incredibly loving stupid, to the point of any conversation being an uphill struggle.
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Nov 25, 2015 05:58
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asdf32 posted:International trade and exchange in general has increased by orders of magnitude in terms of quantity and distance in the last century and notably in the last 40 years or since containerization and decent long distance telephone became widespread. Yes, it's quite amazing how much trade there is going on in the world today. But that's not an observation that tells us anything interesting about the world or is of any use beyond inspiring Tom Friedman style navel gazing. It's completely irrelevant to the TPP, because all of those countries would have been trading a lot with each other and other foreign nations anyways in fact, are you actually Tom Friedman IRL? are we being trolled here? icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 06:03 on Nov 25, 2015 |
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Nov 25, 2015 06:01
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Focusing on trade is missing the forest for the tree. Although it's obviously a contested definition and where you sit ideologically will determine which parts you emphasize, good definitions will have to include 1) expansion, intensification, acceleration of social exchange and relations 2) the increased awareness of those things.
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Nov 25, 2015 06:47
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Globalization is like the first derivative of trade. It's what changes as the result of trade and to enhance further trade. Containerization should obviously and absolutely fall under this, especially the effects on longshoremen unions, coastal communities, marine construction, waterway usage and pollution and shipping hardwareEffectronica posted:Well, since asdf32, RIP, responded to me pointing out that he used "globalization" to refer to trade generally (doing this implicitly and explicitly) by ignoring it, there's not much point in writing it at tedious length unless I were aware this would aid understanding, because I have basically zero desire to treat this as debate rather than discussion. In fact, given that he gave a definition of "globalization" that didn't say poo poo about containerization and then pretended he had made containerization part of that definition a post or so later, it seems as though he's a liar plain and simple, or else incredibly loving stupid, to the point of any conversation being an uphill struggle. Did you just get motte-and-baileyd by someone reading a dictionary? This is rather sad for both of you
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Nov 25, 2015 17:35
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What's the current status of TPP ratification in the various signatory countries?
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tekz posted:What's the current status of TPP ratification in the various signatory countries? Waiting for the lame duck session in Congress.
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