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Zero One posted:The Brink didn't know if it wanted to be a comedy or a drama. Did we watch the same show? You're talking about the one where Tim Robbins is loving an Asian prostitute with assassination role play and then hangs out naked when his assistant walks in? And then he is ordering food in the middle of launching WWIII? And Jack Black is smoking weed and throwing out every Middle Eastern stereotype there is? And then pilots are tripping balls flying into a combat zone while face timing the POTUS? Where in there did you think they were trying to be a drama? EDIT: Also, I liked Ballers.
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Is the brink not the one with jack black sweating profusely in the middle east? I thought that was a drama
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I can't even tell if people are trolling these days. The Brink was directed by Jay Roach, known for movies like Meet The Fockers and Austin Powers. The cast was filled with comic actors and the scenes show absurd situations. The only real question is whether it's trying to be satire or farce, and I think it was leaning heavily to the latter. Now Ballers to me is a show that doesn't know what it wants to be. A 1/2 hour is always comedy, but Ballers isn't really that funny. Not as funny as Entourage when it was starting out, but similar sort of 'lifestyle porn'. And it's far too light and harmlessly inoffensive to be considered drama. There have been a lot of shows about football players; drama series and reality shows so It really needs to do more to make it stand out from this familiar territory. Binary Logic fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Jun 24, 2015 |
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Jun 24, 2015 23:54
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Binary Logic posted:There have been a lot of shows about football players; drama series and reality shows so It really needs to do more to make it stand out from this familiar territory. It does have something to make it stand out: The Rock! I'm half kidding. Whether it's a light-drama or sorta-comedy (comma?) I enjoyed it. Sometimes I'm happy watching a show where I can turn off my brain and have fun for 30 minutes. Especially after True Detective.
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Some shows really make you think or push new artistic boundaries. Some are just fun to watch and that's okay, too. Ballers was a hell of a lot of fun.
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Jun 25, 2015 03:55
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Just watched it on HBO:GO. Good show. The Rock is everything I want to be in life.
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Jun 25, 2015 04:32
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I enjoyed watching both Ballers and the Brink. Laughed at both of them, for very different reason. I think Ballers is actually grounded enough in reality to make lifestyle porn engaging and funny. American athletes really do live up to many stereotypes, its only 5% who live to the extremes that defined those stereotypes to being with but the show is not showing the near 100 players of the dolphins living there regular boring responsible lives. TV focuses on the edge groups, and irresponsible people with a little talent get money thrown at them and the show seems to be taking a realistic route of what they do with it. While The Brink is playing to the reversal of roles. The incompetent and childish administration (metaphorically realistic, or actually realistic depending on who you ask) shown against an educated Pakistani family who think the radicals are idiots (A realistic view exaggerated)
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Doobie Keebler posted:It does have something to make it stand out: The Rock! I'm half kidding. Whether it's a light-drama or sorta-comedy (comma?) I enjoyed it. Sometimes I'm happy watching a show where I can turn off my brain and have fun for 30 minutes. Especially after True Detective. It's one thing to turn off your brain; it's another to spend 30 minutes each week watching something that doesn't go anywhere. I guess I think that already being hugely successful, if Johnson and Wahlberg are going to do tv they should aim higher and have more bite or edge to their series. Here's an example of what I'm saying: we see Spence chewing on a big handful of pills. I'm guessing they're painkillers. But he is still cut like a pro athlete who spends hours per day in the gym; his speech is not slurred or stilted. That huge dose doesn't seem to have much or any adverse affect on him at all. Now if his drug abuse does become a problem or a plot point (eg he must be stoned to hand over $300,000 to someone who's already blown through millions, or he starts pissing blood and has to deal with health problems), to me the show would be better. If taking the pills is just a daily thing he does without any consequences, that tilts the show to being not much more than lightweight, inoffensive lifestyle porn. Binary Logic fucked around with this message at 12:48 on Jun 25, 2015 |
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Jun 25, 2015 12:40
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Binary Logic posted:Yeah The Rock has charisma, even when his acting is toned down compared to his action movie roles. remember that show on ESPN where Omar Gooding would smoke crack right before a game and then run for 200 yards? is crack a performance enhancing drug?
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Jun 25, 2015 16:02
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only for the touchdown celebrations
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Jun 25, 2015 16:08
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The pilot is to introduce a ton of plothooks, not pay them all of. That's what a film does.
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Anyone watching?
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Im watching
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Jun 29, 2015 03:03
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I too am watching, I enjoyed the first ep
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Jun 29, 2015 03:03
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Going from True Detective to this is a bit jarring.
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Aurubin posted:Going from True Detective to this is a bit jarring. Yea in this I care about the characters
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Jun 29, 2015 03:06
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Did he just physically threaten the Rock?
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Jun 29, 2015 03:13
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Hey it's young Chris Rock
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Jun 29, 2015 03:17
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That's a fine brunch.
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Jun 29, 2015 03:20
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I like the retired Chevy guy.
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Sick paintings
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Jun 29, 2015 03:24
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My inner D&D poster is getting a little peaked at the conspicuous consumption.
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Jun 29, 2015 03:30
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Liked the episode again. Show seems like it'll be pretty good if it stays semi-serious.
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Philthy posted:Liked the episode again. Show seems like it'll be pretty good if it stays semi-serious. Yea I'm really liking the semi-serious tone.
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Jun 29, 2015 04:10
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I like this show. I would have liked an hour each week but what are you gonna do
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There's been two episodes and I have no idea what The Rock's character's deal is beyond "don't end up like me". I feel like there's been really slight hints that he might be a total maniac struggling to keep it under control (the suddenness with which he bailed at the party, etc), but if that's the case they really need to have some sort of payoff soon. As it is the first episode was him convincing the one player to be his client, and then the second episode was...getting him to sign and make it official? Maybe if the episodes were longer they'd be able to fit that all in one, and it'd feel more momentous and coherent. I wanna see The Rock being charismatic and charming and intimidating as he needs to be in every situation. The secondary cast seems sort of thin in its handling as well. If the show doesn't ramp poo poo up in the third and fourth episodes then I have no idea what the plan is.
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Jun 29, 2015 07:12
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I don't really give a poo poo about cash poor athletes. I'm watching this for one reason. Dwayne Johnson, he's earned it.
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I wonder as well why these are half hour episodes. It seems like longer would be better, considering waiting a week for not much to happen sucks.
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Jun 29, 2015 08:25
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It's jarring to watch The Rock be this humble motherfucker that life shits on.
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Jun 29, 2015 10:02
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I'm actually loving this show. This is real life at this level in Miami, right down to the $3k Biltmore brunch. I just wish The Rock had enough range to pull off the stone cold panic you feel when you see "insufficient cash" at the ATM. Or the stress he'd actually be under after being told he's an unwanted, failing financial adviser. John David Washington is killin it though.
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I like this show, but it's too short. It doesn't really have time to build on any subplots (like Charles thinking he is fat) which, consequently, makes me not care any time that the Rock isn't on screen. I don't think I'll ever really start caring about any other character.
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I like this show If you like this show you should check out ESPNs Playmakers, the most watched ESPN program outside of Saturday/Sunday Night Football while it ran, which the NFL got so pissy about they forced ESPN to cancel after one season by threatening to pull their NFL license. I believe its free on Youtube. It was at one point not sure if it still is, but is extremely good, and extremely legit.
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This show is good but Survivor's Remorse on Starz is way better.
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A friend of mine was a personal assistant to a professional football player a few years ago and everything in this show is basically repeating her stories about him. Especially the ones about not being able to say no to family and friends and allowing the woodwork people to ask for handouts. She ended up quitting in protest after watching him throw hundreds of thousands of dollars away paying for his friend's gambling and drug habits while she was trying to persuade him to get his friend help. The final straw was when she was asked to go and pick up his friend for a dinner and she found him overdosing and he yelled at her for calling 911 instead of him so he could get it fixed quietly.
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geeves posted:A friend of mine was a personal assistant to a professional football player a few years ago and everything in this show is basically repeating her stories about him. Especially the ones about not being able to say no to family and friends and allowing the woodwork people to ask for handouts. She ended up quitting in protest after watching him throw hundreds of thousands of dollars away paying for his friend's gambling and drug habits while she was trying to persuade him to get his friend help. The final straw was when she was asked to go and pick up his friend for a dinner and she found him overdosing and he yelled at her for calling 911 instead of him so he could get it fixed quietly. ESPN did a pretty good documentary about this exact thing if you have an hour or so to kill and wanna watch it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSOAwNSv8EM
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Binary Logic posted:Yeah The Rock has charisma, even when his acting is toned down compared to his action movie roles. Painkiller addiction is the worst kept secret in the NFL dude. Most of these guys are taking enough to kill a horse by the time their careers are over just to get through the day.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Yea I'm really liking the semi-serious tone. BlindSite posted:Painkiller addiction is the worst kept secret in the NFL dude. Most of these guys are taking enough to kill a horse by the time their careers are over just to get through the day. The other worst kept secret is the long-term effect of head trauma but I guess that won't be addressed at all in this dramedy that prefers to show faceless bikini babes at a hotel pool and expensive cars. The secondary characters are really poorly written, so far. I realize everyone is only watching for The Rock but that's not a good reason for everyone else to be underwritten stereotypes. And the McLaren door gag was much better done in Silicon Valley. ultramiraculous posted:Billionaire doors open like this: Binary Logic fucked around with this message at 12:20 on Jun 30, 2015 |
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I really like it so far. My grade 8 teacher was a former CFL player (I know,  ) and this is already showing a lot of the things he talked about. Concussions, the need for pain-killers and physical wear and tear especially.I wish it showed how hard it is to adjust to the real world when your scholarship was in "Communications" (football). The way universities treat football players is pretty deplorable, from an educational point of view.
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Cole posted:ESPN did a pretty good documentary about this exact thing if you have an hour or so to kill and wanna watch it. It's on Netflix as well if 360p is not enough. Binary Logic posted:
Some people develop tolerance to the soporific and euphoric effects of opioids (assuming that is what he is taking) but not the analgesic. Addicts in treatment take their daily methadone or what not and go to work; the same dose would be life threatening to the uninitiated. Further, opioids are not alcohol: they don't waste away your body and brain. Yes, they have negative effects and certainly get people blasted, however Rock's habit and its effects are not beyond belief. Perhaps a more common example are amphetamines prescribed for ADHD: patients who take them for years can go for a nap or eat after 20-40mgs of speed, whereas (presumably) you or I would be higher than a kite. Notice also that after taking said drugs for decades, they don't look like a meth junkie. In short, I give them a pass. Now, if he misses his morning pill chewing and is not seriously sick...
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That feeling he had where he went to the ATM to pull out $200 and it declined? Been there. That feeling he had when he found money in another bank account? Been there too. (But not with $3000 in a bank account. It was like $50 in a pair of pants I was about to wash.)
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