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   The cherry blossoms have fallen, and spring has passed in the blink of an eye... Two months have passed since Aoshima came to Seimei Medical University Hospital. Then one day... I would never have imagined when Suzu-sensei called me to her office... that I'd be involved in such an uproar... I'm going to say that this is my absolute favourite name pun in this whole game! This name is in the game written as 輝木力, but if we take the middle Kanji purely for its phonetic value, it translates into something totally awesome: "Sparkle Power". Yes, our pop idol is actually named Sparkle Power. How can you ever top that?  he'll be checking in tomorrow.  I'd like you to watch over him, Tendo. Watch over... You mean keep an eye on him? Yes, it seems he once ran away from a hospital in the middle of the night. So we have to increase security. You're in the hospital day and night! That's why you're the man for the job! But what exactly do you want me to do? Just check up on him in his room every once in a while. And if he's not there, bring him back to his room. Doesn't that sound easy?I'm sure there's some sort of a catch... Well...   Why do you think I would go around telling girls about it? You know... "Kakkii is being treated in my hospital!" You could use it to impress them!  Ice cold. Yeah... His fans are very persistent... So even if they ask, tell them he's not here! Why would his fans come here if it's a secret that he's here? It's scary out there. You never know what people might hear. I'm leaving it up to you.  Note taken: Guard duty! Later on, in Heikichi's room, we are discussing the situation...   He's a big star and all the girls love him. Note taken: Kagayaki Chikara. Heikichi-san, how do you know so much about pop stars? Well, the guy makes girls all over the country go crazy for him! I thought I might learn some of his secrets to being popular with girls! Yes, that would be worth analysing... Is he that popular? This Kakkii?  Your hair maybe? No, it's the same! The same as always... Is it really the same? Are you complaining? No, no... Surely only school girls would make such a fuss about a pop star. I don't think so. I read on the internet that he's really popular among older ladies too. Eh? Really? (So he'll be checking in tomorrow. I'm kind of looking forward to it, but I'm also a bit nervous.) And so, welcome to Episode 2! And no, your eyes are NOT deceiving you. They literally managed to misspell the name of the main "guest star" in the chapter title in huge letters. To be sure once and for all, here is the Japanese title screen:  On this one, the name is clearly spelled Kakkii (カッキー), so there is no doubt at all.  In any case, we'll be meeting Kakkii soon enough, but for now, there is some "doctoring" to be done. There is somebody at the reception desk...  Oh hey, it's Eri-san... oh wait, most of you here haven't played the first game, sorry. I'll explain in a moment.    in good shape! (This is Eri-san. She used to be a nurse in the E.R. At the time she said she was a temp...)So yeah, this is actually a returning character from the first game.  In original Japanese version, she always calls Tendo "Doku-chan", and generally has a "cutesy" way of speaking, for which nobody from the localisation team even began to bother to find some sort of English equivalent. In fact there probably wasn't a team, they just picked some random guy who spoke a little Japanese. She used to work in a prison-like emergency hospital seen above...  ...as a nurse (seen above).  Her boss was a machine gun wielding surgeon, seen above. But, let's get back to our conversation here.       We've been friends since high school. In Japanese version it's made a bit more clear that Eri was Miina's senior as Miina calls Eri "sempai". Yes, as you could notice, with chapter 2 I have started playing the Japanese version in parallel in order to be able to check any inconsistencies in translation we come across. If these notes are annoying, let me know and I will stop, no problem. Generally, I'll try not to overdo it. Ouch... You look pale. Are you OK? We were out shopping, when suddenly she had intense stomach pain. OK let's go see the internal specialist to get it checked out.This sounds kind of weird to refer to a doctor who specialised in internal medicine as an "internal specialist". But, as I've said, English is not my first language so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong here. Is... the specialist... a woman? No, he's a man. I'd rather not be examined... What are you talking about? You've been complaining about pain since we got here. I'm fine... really fine... Ouch...  room.  Yeah, but... All right, all right. I'm coming. Don't cry. Are we ready to go then? Sorry. She's a crybaby. Don't pay any attention to it. I'll take you to the internal specialist.   you can. I'll be expecting you. Received: Match Book. Aren't you at Nogi Hospital now? The prison-like hospital is actually the Nogi Hospital, so this question makes no sense as posed. Of course, checking back at the original, turns up that what Tendo really said was "Are you not at Nogi Hospital any more?". I think I need to stop looking at this as it's just going to annoy me how bad the translation is. Anyway, enough of that, moving on. I'm taking some time off. It's a good shop, please be sure to come. Ok. Well, take care of yourself! ("White Angel"... I wonder what kind of shop that is?)Suddenly...  (Scream!)    this...  Does your stomach really hurt? You seem pretty healthy to me... Sorry. Just give us a second. We'll be right back.      You pushed Dr. Keiichi? Mi, what do you mean? You have to explain. I was... scared... Of Dr. Keiichi? Yeah... Why? He seemed nice enough. No, it's not that... So what is it?    Note taken: Androphobia!  We've known each other since high school! I didn't want you to stop liking me... Why would I stop liking you? Because I'm... weird. Do you like men, Eri...?   Ah, that's a problem... There are no female interns in today.Wait, wasn't Aoshima just with us, shortly before this? Listen Mi, how about Tendo here?! He's not so scary, right? Look, he's pretty young. Compared to that other guy... but... he's a... You'll have to be examined soon, or it might be too late. Miina-san, let's do a proper examination. Aah... I don't want to... Dr. Tendo is a close friend of mine, you'll see he's harmless. ...Harmless... He's not scary at all. I swear. Ok? Eri, if you say so...    Ok then, let's try this again. Back to the examination room it is.    started for Miina-san.  Note taken: Miina Irodori - Abdominal Pain! Well then, let's ask Miina about it. So it just started to hurt all of a sudden? Yes, while I was out shopping... I was feeling fine up till then... Did you eat anything unusual? No... nothing at all. We were just browsing through department stores... We hadn't even stopped for coffee. (Looks like we can rule out food poisoning.) Miina-san, when did the pain start? When we were shopping, so around two hours ago... I think. Tendo, is it bad? (What could it be... Appendicitis, hernia, peptic ulcer, cholecystitis, constipation...?) Note Updated: Miina Irodori-san's Abdominal Pain! Miina-san, where does it hurt? The upper part of my stomach... Ouch! Oh! Miina-san, are you all right? Sorry... I'm nervous, and in pain... Nauseous... I don't feel well.. You're also feeling nauseous? When I'm... nervous, I imediately start feeling sick... (Nausea? It's possible that it comes from the abdominal pain...)   closer...       stomach. (Why do I feel guilty... Anyway, I have to find what the problem is...) (I'll have to be sure not to touch her any more than necessary...)  So, here is what we have and there is only one symptom to still discover. Sounds easy, but...  ...because of her androphobia, you are only allowed to touch her three times before it goes to an automatic GAME OVER. Except if you touch her breasts, in which case it's an instant GAME OVER. We'll cover this as part of the failure summary at the end of the chapter. Note that getting a game over at this point is really annoying as you have to start all the way from the beginning of chapter 2, there are no save points anywhere in between!  In any case, she told us that the pain is in the upper abdomen area, so we should try touching around there.  Does it hurt here? Uhh... yeah... (This is where the gallbladder is... Maybe that's...) Epigastric area is simply upper abdomen, nothing else.    make a diagnosis.       Well, it's time for spot the difference. You'd have to be blind to miss this one.    Cholecystitis or... inflammation of the gallbladder, to put it simply.  Note taken: Miina Irodori's results!   gallbladder!  to be hospitalised.   hospital a week after surgery. Laparoscopy is a type of surgery done with an aid of a miniature fibre optic camera inserted into the body; it is generally a lot less invasive than a normal kind of surgery. Removal of the gallbladder is most commonly done this way.   what could have happened.  examination now.  your stay.         comfortable as possible.  Miina-san.) Yeah, let's see where this is going to go. Also, we may finally be meeting Kakkii! ivantod fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Aug 10, 2015 |
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Aug 6, 2015 22:07
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I just hope the rock star won't be obsessed with this girl that probably doesn't want to fawn over him.
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Well this is shaping up to be another fun ride. Also holy poo poo that machine gun surgeon looks cool. The first game needs to be translated too.
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In all these palpation minigames (Trauma Team comes to mind but there is a few others) you occasionally get female patients. And at first I was like "oh hey, the game is making an emphasis that I should be an adult and do my job as a loving doctor and not be a perv. Ten points!" But if you read the dev commentary, there is always one line that is like "the palpation was our favorite minigame hehe what a good life doctors lead" and you just want them to gently caress off all of a sudden. I really wish I never read Trauma Team's dev commentary 
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ivantod posted:In Japanese version it's made a bit more clear that Eri was Miina's senior as Miina calls Eri "sempai". Yes, as you could notice, with chapter 2 I have started playing the Japanese version in parallel in order to be able to check any inconsistencies in translation we come across. If these notes are annoying, let me know and I will stop, no problem. Generally, I'll try not to overdo it. Can't speak for anyone else, but I find these notes super interesting.
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idonotlikepeas posted:Can't speak for anyone else, but I find these notes super interesting. I like learning about these things too. Brings insight and perspective that would have been lost.
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SSNeoman posted:In all these palpation minigames (Trauma Team comes to mind but there is a few others) you occasionally get female patients. And at first I was like "oh hey, the game is making an emphasis that I should be an adult and do my job as a loving doctor and not be a perv. Ten points!" Yeah I remember something like this also from the Valkyria Chronicles 2 LP thread... basically the OP posted some scans from the artbook that was published with the game. The artbook contained loads of sketches of all characters, which were accompanied by the developer notes about the creation/development of that particular character's look and personality. For female characters, in 100% of the cases, these comments degenerate into them describing how long it took them and what process they followed to decide on the size of that particular character's chest and how they had to choose the right breast size that would correctly reflect that character's personality. Basically you want to take a shower after reading that stuff. I'm really not sure if these comments are real or just pandering to the typical steroetype of an antisocial otaku in Japan (probably a bit of both)--in any case, I am not aware of any artbooks/developers commentary for these two games, so we're probably ok on that front. Gameplay-wise, palpation in the breast area very definitely gets you at least scolded if not an outright game over like in this case.
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Yes, thanks for comparing this translation to the originals. It really feels like a lot was lost in translation, and more in the "left on the cutting room floor" sense than the "there's no real equivalent for this" sense.
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A singer with polyps on his vocal chords? Thaaaat seems familiar. But whatever could I know it from?
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Waffleman_ posted:A singer with polyps on his vocal chords? Thaaaat seems familiar. But whatever could I know it from? I don't know, maybe this this old anime? Well it's not that old, it's from 2002. If it's not that, then I don't know...
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Ahh, I see. It's been a long time since I played that so don't remember much. I do remember however that it was really hard! In any case, this game came out just a couple of months after first Trauma Centre, so it's probably just a coincidence!  On another note, I have decide to employ the following simbol from now on: This will indicate the notes in text which are specifically related to Japanese translation/cultural issues to make them easy to spot. I'll go back and edit the previous updates with this also.
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Sorry about double posting, but... this is important! I have been playing around with the JP version of the game to see what else I've missed... and there is a big one in the last update that I didn't pay attention to... (it's not actually important for the plot, but...) In any case, turns out, our friend Heikichi is way more pervy in the original. So that conversation about Aoshima's hair looking different? Yeah, it's not about her hair in the original. Starting with this picture: ...here is how this conversation goes in Japanese version:  Heikichi: Today is Wednesday, so... green frilly ones? This is already very different, but it only gets worse from here...  Tendo: Green frilly ones...?  Aoshima: W- wrong! They're white!  Tendo: Eh... white? Tendo is a bit clueless here...  Aoshima: What are you complaining about? ... and here we join back with the conversation as seen. I don't suppose I need to tell you what they were talking about. So yeah, not only is translation crap, but it's also "censored" (but I guess no surprise there, because Nintendo). To be honest, I don't feel particularly slighted for not having this kind of content in the game, but I thought it would be interesting to see... ivantod fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Aug 10, 2015 |
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Yeah, I'm more than happy for any game being translated to drop underpants humor and replace it with something better, or boring. I mean, localization is about finding the equivalent sometimes right?
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"Now, it's very important that you not mention this to anyone." *Immediately tells the local pervert* Tendo, you're not very good at keeping secrets.
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Well, who's gonna believe the old pervert if he tells anyone else?
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Hey guys, just a quick note: next part will be posted on Sunday. Apologies for the delay, I have too much going on at work this week--for those in the know I will just say two words: PCI Certification.
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Haven't said anything yet, but I've been reading this LP and I would like a clarification: Do the bad paths have any long-term consequences or just for the chapter? Quality work on the LP, particularly with the comparisons to the J version.
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Word on the Wind posted:Haven't said anything yet, but I've been reading this LP and I would like a clarification: Do the bad paths have any long-term consequences or just for the chapter? Thanks for the kind words.  But, no, the bad endings don't really have consequences down the line for the most part. There are a few things that do carry over between chapter and that's primarily events that relate to which of the ladies you can end up dating at the end of the game, and a few plot strands like the famous rumour about Dr. Ueto's boyfriend which I'm sure everyone has forgotten about by now.
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 Last time, we finally had a new patient, Miina Irodori. She also seems to suffer from androphobia, so Tendo was about to go ask for advice from Suzu. Let's see how that goes.   Present the exam results, and...  Acute cholecystitis... and the removal of the gallbladder... Tendo, you'll perform the operation, right? That's...Here, present the note about androphobia. The patient has severe androphobia. So? So, it would be better if her attending doctor was a woman. Is that what the patient wants? Yes... Is it really that much of an issue for her? Yes, she started to cry when Dr. Keiichi tried to examine her. Oh yeah... I heard about that. Apparently, Dr. Keiichi was quite disheartened... It was my fault. I didn't know anything about it when I took her to see him.   experience.   Note taken: Miina Irodori-san's attending doctor!  Well, nothing to do but go and tell her. She's over in the cafeteria.    Oh really? I hadn't noticed. I had tried all of the dishes on the menu and I was getting bored. But there were 100 different items! They've added 60 new dishes. (How does she find the time to keep up to date with things like this?) The cook here has traveled the world, and mastered international cuisine. How did he end up as a cook here?   ...So what is it?  been admitted. The patient has acute cholecystitis, she thinks you can manage the operation. Really?! And Suzu-sensei will supervise? Yes, she will.  Uh, she looks a bit scary here...    those other plates?    Definitely not a case of "Eat your hamburgers, Apollo" -- she's eating cutlets in the original, too.With this done, let's head to Miina's room and introduce Aoshima.    the day after.   doctor. You don't need to worry at all.    You don't LOOK reassured.   not worry about the operation.     You didn't tell her? The truth is... I suffer from androphobia. That means...  love...  Note taken: Miina Irodori-san's feelings!     same thing.       You may have forgotten, but we do have another duty to perform! In fact Kakkii arrives to the hospital today!   PHS, "Personal Handy-phone System" is a weird mobile phone system used in some east-Asian countries. Hello. Please report to the Third Department of Surgery - it's Kakkii's manager. All... all right. I've mentioned that this kind of extremely casual speech from Tendo and others to their superiors has been bothering me for a while. Well, now I can finally confirm that I had good reasons for it. Instead of a silly "What's up?", in the original Tendo gives a polite excuse for disturbing her when entering the office. be here in a few minutes.  entrance.   Be careful not to make too much fuss or inconvenience any of the other patients. I'm not one of his fans, so it should be all right. It's not you I'm worried about, it's other people. Other people? Do you think there are any crazy fans around here? He's an international mega star! I honestly do not understand what's the deal with this translation. I'll stop pointing out every single mistake, but sometimes I really can't help it. Again, Suzu clearly says "national" in the original, not "international". I just don't know anymore.  Let's head there immediately!   Oh god, not her. Now everybody and their brother will now find out about Kakkii!  Wait, why are you telling her this, Tendo?  Kagayaki-san, Dr. Tendo?  Florence-san, are you a Kagayaki-san fan?Say this five times quickly.  Yes, of course! Don't be deceived by my looks. I know everything about Kakkii. So how did you know that was going to be a patient here? He he he... That's a secret! (She knew...?)Well, Kakkii's definitely not here, but... let's look for him. Let's go to the reception, maybe he came in through the front door?    Oookay, looks like we found him.     Present "About Kagayaki-san" note.    Now you've done it, Tendo! She didn't even KNOW!    Sorry to interrupt this... pleasant conversation. Eh? Do you want something?Present "Guard duty". I'm Tendo Dokuta. I have been put in charge of you during your stay. I'm Kagayaki Chikara. But my friends and fans call me Kakkii. So please, Doctor, call me Kakkii too. Ok... Kakkii-san, did you come by yourself? Yeah. I'm 23, even though I look younger. No... I didn't mean that. Your manager is not with you? Oh, my manager. Why didn't you say that in the first place? My manager is taking care of my admission. But he'll leave as soon as he finishes. I'm not a kid anymore. I heard that you came in through the back door to avoid attracting attention. Yeah, I came in through the back door. But I met this Angel in pink, the conversation took a lively turn and the next thing I knew, here I was! It feels sort of covert, sneaking in through the back door. Yeah, we're pretty conspicuous here too. Let's move. me?  white...   Like that Angel in pink.   Impossible. Forget it. Oh?   Yeah, this guy is totally not going to be trouble at all. ivantod fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Aug 17, 2015 |
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Kakkii is great already. Very Klavier. Also there's no way that Tendo will be asked to do Miina's operation so that she can get over her phobia. No way at all.
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Yeah Kakki is legit great. I really like what they did with his character. The worst example of "eat your hamburgers, Apollo" had to be in Lux Pain (along with the rest of the trainwreck which was Lux Pain's localization). The game takes place in Kisaragi City, which is very obviously in Japan. People have Japanese names (Atsuki Saijo, Rui Yamase and so on), use honorifics (sporadically), wear yukatas and school uniforms and so on. Then about 5/6th of the way though the game someone offhandedly says "We never dealt with anything else of the sort here in America!" That was so jarring to me that it legit took me out of the game. It felt really, really weird.
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SSNeoman posted:Yeah Kakki is legit great. I really like what they did with his character. I feel like the worst example of eat your hamburgers Apollo is actually the titular eat your hamburgers in this town of Japanese expats revering real-life Japanese deities at which no one, not even me, Phoenix Wright, American attorney, blinks an eye. What's the problem Apollo you are American too. Remember when you hung out with that American yakuza lady who owned the American town? I fondly remember the time I befriended an American sentai hero and defended him in several cases. 
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At this point, they've made it an alternate universe to try and make it make sense. It's the dumbest, most amazing thing. They're just going to commit to their American Ancient Buddhist Temples and American I am waiting on the next game, which features two countries which are totally and in no way America, like, in a really meaningful sense, with baited breath. D3m3 fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Aug 18, 2015 |
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D3m3 posted:At this point, they've made it an alternate universe to try and make it make sense. It's the dumbest, most amazing thing. They're just going to commit to their American Ancient Buddhist Temples and American Speaking of "Noodle" carts, that puzzle from Apollo Justice second case totally does not make sense at all in English (the one where the name is seen in reverse on the other side of the cart). Well, at least this game does not pretend to be anything but Japanese for the most part... altough in this case I am sure it's mostly out of laziness. About Dai Gyakuten Saiban, I have my doubts if it's even going to get localised outside of Japan (similar to Yakuza Kenzan/Ishin games which will also remain forever Japan-only)... I have imported a copy though haven't gotten around to playing it yet. And if there is anybody here yet who hasn't seen the original "Eat your hamburgers" comic, here it is: 
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 So last time we finally met Kakkii, who is already charming the hospital's female population. Let's see what happens now.     I've been told not to draw any attention to you! Just a little tour... Just a tiny one would be fine. Come on, I'm going to be confined in a small room for the next three weeks!   And so what we need to do is take him around the hospital to meet our female colleagues. Game doesn't help you here, but luckily I know where to go.  First stop, staff room where Dr. Ueto is hanging about.      hospital.    So you're a White Angel, who looks after kids? That's nice... That's... I'm sorry to bother you at work... Oh... me? No problem! Kagayaki-san, let's go.  (Dr. Ueto looks a bit strange... What happened?) Our next stop is the physical rehabilitation centre, where an I'm sure eager Aoshima waits.  (I have to be careful not to disturb her...) Kagayaki-san, we should be going back to your room soon.    Kagayaki-san, let's go.  Kagayaki? Oh, are you Kakkii... san? Yes, I am. How are you? Are you living the way you'd always dreamed of? What? It's a good line, isn't it? It's from a commercial I was in once, and I really like it. Oh... Really? Well, I have to go... It's kind of charming, that cold-hearted manner. I'm busy with tomorrow's operation. Will you excuse me? Of course. I'm really sorry. So... Dr. Tendo, good luck.She leaves. That Twilight Angel is a surgeon? Amazing! (Twilight Angel...? Who does he mean?) "Twilight Angel...? What does he mean by that?" Sigh. How difficult is this?  All right, well, let's go to his room then.   If you need anything, please contact us through this intercom. And if you're leaving the room, please let me know. Please stay out of the lobby and the inner courtyard. What? I thought that I was finally rid of my manager. And here you are--you sound just like my manager. Kagayaki-san, during your stay I'm going to be just like your manager. It's for your own good. You need to rest and recuperate in peace. You can go now.   Well, that's that for now, but there is an unknown person at the reception...  Oh, let me guess...  for.)    understand.  She's not nearly so polite in Japanese... here she says something more like "You're a real pain, aren't you?". I'll come back to this in a moment, as it is quite interesting what happened with this character's lines when they got translated. Eh? Don't treat me like a kid just because I'm short. I'm in grade 8! Oh really? I can't send emails! I'm so bored. Because they might interfere with the medical equipment! I know. You don't have to tell me that. Besides, I didn't ask you in the first place. (Oh, that's my PHS.) Hello. Oh, OK. I understand. Eh? What? Why can you use one, but we can't? It's just for the hospital. It's different from a regular cellphone, the signal is weaker. That sounds like a lie. It's not a lie. Anyway, leave me alone. (She's gone! Who was that girl?) for the trouble I've caused.) He's talking about apologising to everybody for having to introduce Kakkii around.   I think so. Of course, I certainly wouldn't notice if he was an impostor.    Would it be so strange if I was a fan? Not at all... Ah, what should I do? How can I work knowing I'm under the same roof as Kakkii? Aren't you overreacting a bit?   A minute later...   ago... Are the preparations for the operation going well?    Well, he certainly seems to be...       Looks like the info has already leaked. Somehow I suspect Florence...        Well, she's certainly persistent if nothing else.  switch off your cell phone when you are in a hospital.  It's really irritating.    Oh, come on.      This conversation appears to be going in circles...      I'm not even a Kakkii fan!   Kakkii.   And here, we finally have to ask ourselves, WHY? Why would you do this? The game is obviously Japanese, everybody has Japanese names and so on. Why would you now translate this line to say "English" when the original is of course "Is she even speaking Japanese?". Basically the girl's speech is quite rough and full of slang, which prompts this reaction from Tendo; but needless to say, her manner of speech does not come across in the translation. But then again, neither does anybody else's--they all sound similarly bland in English even though they all have very distinct speech patterns in the original.But getting back to the topic of our friend here, it seems that her way of talking was giving the translators some headache... the previous sentence about the "dweeb" actually in the original says that she got stood up at the last minute by the person who was supposed to come with her, so now she is going at it alone--admittedly, it's a bit difficult to parse (see above reaction from Tendo), but still, if you are a professional translator... the translation should really not be this far from the original. 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Well, this is properly miserable. I particularly hate dealing with difficult, self-obsessed children.
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Aug 21, 2015 00:11
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booksnake posted:Well, this is properly miserable. I particularly hate dealing with difficult, self-obsessed children.
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Aug 21, 2015 00:32
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ivantod posted:
In a well-translated game, I'd take that as sarcastic. Like, "he can't seriously mean super tired Aoshima...". This is not a well-translated game, though, so it is most likely a gently caress-up oh god sudden MMBN4 flashbacks.
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Aug 21, 2015 04:45
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Personally, I don't see any reason to complain that references to the name of the language were localised. Regardless of the fact that in-universe everyone is speaking hearing and writing Japanese, the player is still experiencing it in English even if things like honorifics are still being used. This means that without some proper reason for it, having someone ask in English, of a person speaking in English, "Are you even speaking Japanese?" is jarring and feels really really awkward. Of course, in this game, even "Are you even speaking English?" still felt really awkward, seeing as the girl hasn't said anything that would be remotely difficult to comprehend. I just have to wonder what part our intrepid doctor found confusing....
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Aug 21, 2015 10:35
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The Watercrown posted:Of course, in this game, even "Are you even speaking English?" still felt really awkward, seeing as the girl hasn't said anything that would be remotely difficult to comprehend. I just have to wonder what part our intrepid doctor found confusing.... Well yeah that was exactly my point: in Japanese version this girl speaks in such a rough and slangy way that she can be a bit difficult to understand--but nobody even tried to make that come across in translation so in English it just looks silly when Tendo says that. Same is true for other characters too, at least some of which have distinct ways of speaking. But the English translation is just as bland as possible which does the game no service when its main content is 90% text basically.
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Aug 21, 2015 15:30
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These people need to learn to say "we can neither confirm nor deny" more.
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Aug 24, 2015 13:50
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I'm in grade 8. You can't fool me.
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Aug 24, 2015 22:19
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  Last time, the very persistent Kakkii fan managed to escape from us. So our task is now to find her; basically the game doesn't tell you who is where and you have to randomly click on locations until you find her, nothing more complicated.  Our first stop is, of all places, Mortuary. She is quite obvious really, on the right behind the shrine setup.     Next stop: reception area, she's on the right behind the bench, again quite easy to spot.    Let's do this again...  Finally, rehabilitation centre, behind the pillar.      I've told you that Kakkii is not here. Sure... Fine, can you please give this to Kakkii? What? you? But Kakkii really isn't a patient here... Love Kakkii fan club!  Note taken: About Naoko!  Received: Present from Naoko! So your name is Naoko? Don't call me by my first name. OK... Make sure you give it to him! If you don't, I'll stick a balloonfish right into your eyeballs! Thank goodness! She's gone! You may already know that generally in East Asian countries, calling people by their first name is not really done if you don't know them well--although in this case, obviously the joke is that she's been nothing but rude to them, but now complains about this, even though Tendo still calls her somewhat politely as "Naoko-chan". The other thing is that his last sentence is actually along the lines of "Hey wait... oh, she's already gone", which conveys a bit of a different feeling on his side. In the future I will simply correct errors of this nature where appropriate, rather than pointing them out individually, unless there's something especially interesting about to say. And now, back to the regular programme. Still, I'm ashamed for lying even though I don't have a choice. If you had told the truth in that situation, there would be no end to it. That's true, too.  Since I already took it.  So, let's go to Kakkii's room even though we probably shouldn't just give him a gift from some random fan who may or may not be all there in the head.   was a present for you.    I had to. You're staying here incognito, remember? Well, but... it's just a matter of time before word gets out. Listen... There is a possibility that other fans may come looking for you... So please, stay away from the lobby and the inner courtyard. Yeah, this guy loves it. Well, the situation has calmed a bit, so it's time for break with Aoshima and Hoshi.  As mentioned, this really doesn't come across in translation, but in Japanese she is fairly difficult to follow when she talks.      here? Well, I can think of one possibility...    everything about the other person. Um, sounds like she has some experience here...?  Many people, not just artists, put information about themselves on the internet. But... It isn't that easy to find out everything about the person... Hoshi-san, are you a Kagayaki-san fan?     pay them a visit.  even know each other.  Er, what is actually going on here right now in this conversation? Eh? About what? and pay a sympathy visit? Ah... I'm not sure. Well, yeah... Well if it was me, I'd be happy if anybody came to see me.      finish this chat later...   Poor Tendo, stuck between those two. But here's a question: other that Sanae which is just a joke, these two are really our dating options. We don't need to decide just yet (in fact there is quite a while still, and I've made sure to keep our options open so far), but I wonder who you would chose between Aoshima and Hoshi...  You think?  But anyway, somehow Hoshi has teleported to the reception, so let's see...  That Dr. Aoshima got angry at, right?  I kind of admire that young girl... She's so confident and direct with everybody she talks to... I almost wish I could learn it from her! I'm not sure about learning from her... but I am impressed by how full of energy she is. I really wish I could learn how she does it! Next stop, Aoshima. Better to talk to them separately.   What do you mean I "ran away". That's so rude! What will people think? But you did run away! Well, the two of you looked ferocious. Yeah... sorry. without any consideration for others. That's true... You see? Like I said. We have to be clear on what's right and wrong in these situations, or I won't be able to sleep at night.Better to escape from all that, really...  There seems to be something going on in the courtyard. Let's have a look.   Not again.   special"!  I won't be able to sleep otherwise!        Kagayaki-san! just liars! Kagayaki-san, please don't go out there!   It'll be back to normal after the operation. That's good... So you'll be leaving the hospital soon? Your concert was cancelled, but it's all right with me! Are you one of my fans? Yes, I am! I'm Naoko, president of the We Love Kakkii fan club! Did you get my present?      So you might be wondering, why suddenly "Mr. Kakkii" when everybody has so far been calling him "Kakkii-san". It's because Florence actually addresses him as "Kakkii-sama" in Japanese, which generally conveys a slightly higher level of respect than "-san". Of course, the translation is again at a loss how to convey this in English. that nobody bothers you.  Kagayaki-san, why are you out by yourself without telling me? court.  It's my job to respond to the calls of my fans. Can I remind you, Kagayaki-san, that officially you're not even here! But she came here just for me and she brought me a present. Oh well, Doctor, next time you see that girl, please give this to her. It's a VIP ticket to my concert after I get out of the hospital. Received: VIP Concert Ticket! Please don't say anything about this to my manager. He hates it when I do stuff like this. All right. But don't go out by yourself from now on without telling me first. Sure, got it. You're upset because now you seem like the bad guy because you lied. No, it's not that...    Yeah, this is really not going the way it was supposed to be going. But, in a bit of good news, next time we actually have Miina's operation on the agenda! Remember Miina? Yes, I know last few parts were "all Kakkii all the time", but we do have other patients to take care of!
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Let's face, the battle was lost before Tendo was even involved.
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