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Wrigleyville was great last night. Hoping for another pro speech from Crawford at the parade. Edit: regarding Kimmo, they act that way for every lovely old player who finally gets a cup.
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Nail Rat posted:Wrigleyville was great last night. Hoping for another pro speech from Crawford at the parade. Usually they contribute something.
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Aphrodite posted:Usually they contribute something. Jamal Mayers was literally a healthy scratch through all the playoffs last time IIRC and they did it for him.
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VJeff posted:
The Wings played well against Tampa and horribly against Montreal this year. If we beat Tampa, Montreal would have beaten us in 5 or 6.
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AsInHowe posted:The Wings played well against Tampa and horribly against Montreal this year. If we beat Tampa, Montreal would have beaten us in 5 or 6. I'm okay with this what if scenario.
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whatis posted:i dont like people being happy you should meet: me
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at least until tampa makes another few finals, then ill really hate you
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whatis posted:at least until tampa makes another few finals, then ill really hate you you should start cheering for a winner so that you won't have to feel such envy-fueled hatred
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Jun 16, 2015 13:55
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Chicago is what Pittsburgh was supposed to be  .Now Chicago is going to be what Pittsburgh actually is thanks to paying more for Toews/Kane than the Penguins do for Crosby/Malkin 
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Aye Doc posted:you should start cheering for a winner so that you won't have to feel such envy-fueled hatred because buffalo is going to win like three cups in the next handful of years? im cheering for the right team, its everyone else who is wrong
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Ginette Reno posted:Now Chicago is going to be what Pittsburgh actually is thanks to paying more for Toews/Kane than the Penguins do for Crosby/Malkin Except that Chicago has been through all this before and bounced back to win another couple cups. Some stupid team is going to give up a 1st rounder and a top prospect for Sharp, someone else will trade valuable roster players for Bickell and the Hawks will be back in the WCF a year from now. As it is written, so it shall be.
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Is the "old guy healthy scratching his way to a cup tear jerker etc" thing going to be a thing that I have to put up with from now on? I don't like this very much.
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bewbies posted:Is the "old guy healthy scratching his way to a cup tear jerker etc" thing going to be a thing that I have to put up with from now on? I don't like this very much. have you been in a coma for the past 30 years of sports narratives? this isn't new
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bewbies posted:Is the "old guy healthy scratching his way to a cup tear jerker etc" thing going to be a thing that I have to put up with from now on? I don't like this very much. It's truly repugnant that people would enjoy watching a player who struggled to win a cup cap their distinguished career by hoisting hockey's ultimate prize. It really sticks in my craw that captains don't hand the cup off to the Conn Smythe winner followed by all of his teammates in order of points accrued in the finals each time. REAL hockey captains wouldn't let sentimentality come in the way of things.
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bewbies posted:Is the "old guy healthy scratching his way to a cup tear jerker etc" thing going to be a thing that I have to put up with from now on? I don't like this very much. "I hate good sports narratives and furthermore"
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Aye Doc posted:have you been in a coma for the past 30 years of sports narratives? this isn't new I'm pretty sure it started with Bourque who was one of the best players in the league when he won it and was also one of the best to ever play so that was actually a good narrative, it is just contrived and stupid now.
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the saddest part of the playoffs has to be thinktank's rooting for the blackhawks. no, my team losing was the saddest part. but yeah thinktank come on man it's ok to root for your conference, but you're open mouth kissing of the blackhawks is just insufferable
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ThinkTank posted:Except that Chicago has been through all this before and bounced back to win another couple cups. Some stupid team is going to give up a 1st rounder and a top prospect for Sharp, someone else will trade valuable roster players for Bickell and the Hawks will be back in the WCF a year from now. As it is written, so it shall be. Yeah they're certainly more well managed than the Penguins (though who isn't?) so I'm sure they'll be just fine unfortunately. They're going to have a harder time than they've had though.
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I kind of wanted Tampa to win because Stevie but honestly I like Chicago's jersey's way more
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Anyone else not quite sober at work right now? Whole lotta sleepy motherfuckers in Chicago right now.
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bewbies posted:Is the "old guy healthy scratching his way to a cup tear jerker etc" thing going to be a thing that I have to put up with from now on? I don't like this very much. http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/blackhawks/post/_/id/4677088/hawks-petition-to-include-mayers-on-cup This one was even more blatant, because at least Timmonen played in like 10 games in the playoffs.
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Wonderllama posted:the saddest part of the playoffs has to be thinktank's rooting for the blackhawks. We all love what we can't have.
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Also it has been 7 years since the team I was rooting for won the cup so beware all ye teams who I prefer, you are doomed.
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Ginette Reno posted:Yeah they're certainly more well managed than the Penguins (though who isn't?) so I'm sure they'll be just fine unfortunately. It'll still be easier than 2010, where stuff like Toews getting the Conn Smythe triggered a bonus clause that hit the next year cap. Plus the RFA debacle with Tallon. I really wish Sharp could stay because he's one of the 7 to be part of all 3 cups but with his decline this year and the cap crunch it'll be sad to see him go. I'd rather see Crawford go but whatever. I'd also really like to see Vermette get re-signed to play 2nd line center, maybe 3rd line depending on Teuvo's progression although my fantasy line of Kane/Teuvo/Panarin would be really tiny. rolling out Saad/Toews/Hossa Panarin/Vermette/Kane Versteeg/Teuvo/Nordstrom Shaw/Kruger/Desjardins and TVR possibly in place of Oduya if he leaves would still be a pretty great team , especially if Cumsikey/Rundblad were resigned and developed a bit. So just need to resign Saad/Kruger as RFAs and Vermette/Desjardins as UFAs, trade Sharp/Bickell for bags of pucks, let Richards go, and all should be well. mastershakeman fucked around with this message at 14:45 on Jun 16, 2015 |
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Nail Rat posted:http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/blackhawks/post/_/id/4677088/hawks-petition-to-include-mayers-on-cup Who the gently caress is Jamal Mayers?
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Infidel Castro posted:Who the gently caress is Jamal Mayers? He was in charge of handling Pronger-related customer service complaints for a few years.
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A punchman so valuable he played zero times in the postseason that year. I mean, he's got 900 career games so he's not some schmuck, and apparently he's a nice guy and all that, but he didn't really factor into the cup run.
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Mostly useless bit of trivia, it took until last nights game for Keith to overtake Ovechkin for the lead in playoff shot attempts at 143 to 142. Keith played 437:35 more than Ovechkin.
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Hand Knit posted:Did they do away with the waiting period while I wasn't looking? The interview period is still in effect, I believe it starts June 26th (same day as the draft). It'll be interesting to see if UFA rights are still traded for picks considering there's less impetus to do so now.
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mastershakeman posted:It'll still be easier than 2010, where stuff like Toews getting the Conn Smythe triggered a bonus clause that hit the next year cap. Plus the RFA debacle with Tallon. It's doubtful the Hawks will be able to afford Vermette if they re-sign Kruger and and Saad. Fortunately they have some NHL-ready bottom six guys in Rockford, and Teuvo has the skillset to be the 2C of the future. Cumiskey isn't going to develop any more than he already has (he's 28), and I don't think Rundblad is worth keeping over some of the prospects the Hawks have in the system (particularly Stephen Johns).
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mastershakeman posted:I really wish Sharp could stay because he's one of the 7 to be part of all 3 cups but with his decline this year and the cap crunch it'll be sad to see him go. I'd rather see Crawford go but whatever. I'm pretty much the world's biggest Patrick Sharp fan, but I'd rather have Crawford come back than Sharp. Vermette would be cool to get back, but you could probably get both Kruger and Oduya back for the same price, and I'd rather have those two.
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Kruger is as much of the core now as Saad, both are untouchable. Johns will be in the NHL next season. Vermette Richards Bickell Sharp Oduya are all gone. Seabrook is possibly gone as well, either way he's getting a considerable raise. Zero possibility of them trading Crawford.
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onemillionzombies posted:Kruger is as much of the core now as Saad, both are untouchable. Johns will be in the NHL next season. Vermette Richards Bickell Sharp Oduya are all gone. Seabrook is possibly gone as well, either way he's getting a considerable raise. I've never heard anywhere that Seabrook is on the chopping block. Losing Oduya would be bad enough, but losing both Seabrook and Oduya would be awful.
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My 4 year old son still thinks all the 'bad guys' in every hockey game are the Blackhawks, who are bad because they steal babies. I had to come up with a sure fire way of making sure he'll still love Vancouver even if his daycare provider loves the Blackhawks. I'm glad I taught him good things when he was young, but I'm sad he'll grow up in a world thinking baby snatchers win Stanley Cups.
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Kevlar v2.0 posted:I've never heard anywhere that Seabrook is on the chopping block. Losing Oduya would be bad enough, but losing both Seabrook and Oduya would be awful. His contract is up and he's got 3 cups on his resume, dude wants to get paid.
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Kevlar v2.0 posted:I've never heard anywhere that Seabrook is on the chopping block. Losing Oduya would be bad enough, but losing both Seabrook and Oduya would be awful. It's been tossed around by random talking heads. No one that I trust as an NHL reporter has mentioned it that I can recall.
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onemillionzombies posted:His contract is up and he's got 3 cups on his resume, dude wants to get paid. Seabrook is under control for one more year.
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