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dizaero posted:Anyone else think Sony is taking advantage of Kickstarter crowdfunding and the consumers? As for precedents, it is basically circumventing the "never pre-order anything" mantra that has always quietly existed but more of the public has been picking up on lately. But at the same time, if projects actually had to extract $10 from you and 50,000 like-minded people to get green-lit by a big publisher, then maybe AAA development wouldn't be the high risk trainwreck that it is today. Three Cookies posted:Wonder if the first hour or something of the game will just be a load of flashbacks to explain to new people and people who haven't touched the games since 2001 what is happening. There's Sega copyrights on the Kickstarter video footage of this new game. I think they'll do what they did with Shenmue II's Xbox release, and include a cutscene-based movie explaining the plot of the two prior games. I don't think they'll be playable, nor do they need to be. Gameplay was not it's strong suit, but the bizarre immersion and detail. It's from that era when people thought buying stuff online wasn't going to be Amazon but instead like wearing an Oculus and going through a VR simulation of your local mall, then standing in line behind other virtual customers to pay the virtual employee. When Encarta looked like a bookshelf made in KPT Bryce because your Mother didn't understand a search box yet. So long as the third game includes china closets to dig through and toys to buy, I think people will probably be fine getting a "Previously on Shenmue..." Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 10:30 on Jun 16, 2015 |
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dizaero posted:Anyone else think Sony is taking advantage of Kickstarter crowdfunding and the consumers? You're at bare minimum paying 29 dollars to see a miricle happen.
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I put in 29 dollars even though I am indifferent to Shenmue because a lot of people I know are currently in a state of euphoric shock over the announcement and I want to help them get what they have always wanted 
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New ps4 games are £50 so paying 1/3 of that to get a new shenmue owns imo
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dizaero posted:Anyone else think Sony is taking advantage of Kickstarter crowdfunding and the consumers? Yes, I do. I don't think it's abuse either, or that it's bad. Just like Yooka-Laylee, Bloodstained and like 99% of Kickstarter games that have a publisher already "took advantage". It changes absolutely nothing Shenmue 3 actually finally being a thing and on the flipside, allows the developers assurances that there's a tangible audience for what they're creating and allows feedback to reach them via fans due to a stated obligation to actually listen to it. Kickstarter abuse is when you get your money and run, purposely underdeliver or fail to implement what you promised without honest effort and have no intention of refunding poo poo.
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Pomp posted:I have waited 14 years for this, eat my loving dick Not only this, but literally two days ago(hell even yesterday for people who didn't see that forklift tweet from suzuki), We all went about our day convinced that shenmue 3 would never ever happen. poo poo I thought Beyond Good and Evil 2 was a more likely thing than this game. Let Sony do whatever the gently caress gymnastics they want to feel safe about this. Games are loving expensive.
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Triticum Guzzler posted:folks i can't be clearer than this: give all your money to the lovely looking japanese guy doing nothing simulator or be put to the sword Don't worry; I will.
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Guess we got the answer on if they could fund 1 & 2 on their own.Shenmue 3 posted:Is this game affiliated with SEGA? Looks like whatever deal was struck to allow them to chase the dream of the third on their own means was only Shenmue 3 and anything potentially after 3. However, if this sells reasonably well hopefully the Valkeria Wizards cast a spell over SEGA to make 1 & 2 HD also find its way to PC and consoles because finally turning a profit on that game.
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Byolante posted:I put in 29 dollars even though I am indifferent to Shenmue because a lot of people I know are currently in a state of euphoric shock over the announcement and I want to help them get what they have always wanted On behalf od those people. Thanks!
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only $100,000 left.
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I want Yu to unleash some sick karate moves on Ouya so he can take the tagline that the shenmue kickstarter deserves thank you for believing
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I suspect if this gets like 6-10 million dollars in crowdfunding SEGA will kick themselves in the head for doubting in Shenmue.
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Nelson Mandingo posted:I suspect if this gets like 6-10 million dollars in crowdfunding SEGA will kick themselves in the head for doubting in Shenmue. On the day that it hits those numbers and has steam sales like VC, you'll see the goddamn Skies of Arcadia 1 Remaster and 2 Kickstarter.
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Craptacular! posted:It is kind of easy for Sony to put together $2 million, but I can also see something to the effect of "if you can get $2 million from the general public, we'll have money lined up behind that." It's one of those series that gets talked about, but it's often hard to tell if it's honestly fond or just giggling about sailor jokes and forklifts. I can understand why Sony wouldn't want to fund it. I just hope the devs come out and explain this and be honest and say "Yes a deal was made" or "No a deal wasn't made but Sony did help us promote and that's why we aren't making for Xbox" or "We aren't porting to Xbox for (honest reason)" I need something cus I still think its shady and have my doubts. If it was on every platform or open to the possibility to ever platform, I wouldn't have these doubts. edit Speak of the devil. They added a FAQ to the Kickstarter. Vague, but its something. FAQ posted:Will there be an Xbox/Wii U/Linux/Mac version for Shenmue 3? dizaero fucked around with this message at 11:12 on Jun 16, 2015 |
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dizaero posted:I can understand why Sony wouldn't want to fund it. I just hope the devs come out and explain this and be honest and say "Yes a deal was made" or "No a deal wasn't made but Sony did help us promote and that's why we aren't making for Xbox" or "We aren't porting to Xbox for (honest reason)" I need something cus I still think its shady and have my doubts. If it was on every platform or open to the possibility to ever platform, I wouldn't have these doubts. They are under no obligation, nor should there be any expectation, to make any of that information public. No one else is, why should they? I still don't understand why you think this is "shady". Or in what way it constitutes "abuse" of crowd funding. A company making a game made some kind of deal with a console manufacturer for some kind of console exclusivity, just like almost every other game at E3. For the record it's not a practice I'm a fan of, but there's nothing shady about it. In this case the game is also being crowdfunded. A lot of games have multiple sources of funding. I just don't get where the abuse is here. This "hidden deal wouldn't of been made with Sony, which is my concern" sums up why I am confused. Why is a "hidden deal" a concern? Just about every game at E3 involves some kind of "hidden deal", there is nothing intrinsicly shady about that. Do you have concerns about any of them. It seems strange you have concerns about this one in particularly given you have no interest in it. I don't get it, I guess. Gravy Jones fucked around with this message at 11:16 on Jun 16, 2015 |
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What a pleasant suprise. I can't wait to loving murder Lan Di.
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ghouldaddy07 posted:What a pleasant suprise. I can't wait to loving murder Lan Di. And then he'll have had a son, who will set off on a quest to kill you to avenge his father.
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And only 10k left, my goodness it's not even been a day where is this money coming from?
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ghouldaddy07 posted:What a pleasant suprise. I can't wait to loving murder Lan Di. Looks like you only have two of the four Wude
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And $2,000,000! We did it, everyone! It's happening! Shenmue 3 is really happening!
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Is there another project that could get funded faster than this?
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Onmi posted:Is there another project that could get funded faster than this? smartwatches, long dead TV shows.
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Onmi posted:Is there another project that could get funded faster than this? FFVII Remake
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Complete strangers all over the world funded 2 million loving dollars in less than 24 hours for a videogame. loving amazing.
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Onmi posted:Is there another project that could get funded faster than this? Skies of Arcadia 3DS
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Finally, after 16 years I'm going to leave that cave.
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Monsieur Mango posted:Complete strangers all over the world funded 2 million loving dollars in less than 24 hours for a videogame. loving amazing. i know it's really loving depressing
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Monsieur Mango posted:Complete strangers all over the world funded 2 million loving dollars in less than 24 hours for a videogame. loving amazing. You look at some of the games that actually have been released the last 4-5 years by Sega (yes I'm talking about nearly all the Sonic games), they totally missed the fact thousands of people really loving want Shenmue. I'm a bit low on cash at the moment but come payday I'll definately be putting some cash in, I didnt know I was so effected by the original games until a loving shiver went down my spine when I heard the loving theme tune quick in at the Sony press conference
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Gravy Jones posted:They are under no obligation, nor should there be any expectation, to make any of that information public. No one else is, why should they? Seeing a large corporation promote a Kickstarter so a game that was being made "for the fans" was not on Xbox didn't seem right to me. I have no proof they have such a deal of course, so I wanted the devs to give a reason why it isn't on Xbox. More I think about it though, I hope the only reason is because the devs do not like Xbox. That would be great and I would agree, because I don't either. Its fine though. Awesome to see the game break 2 million in under 24 hours.... You guys really like this Shenmue so I won't rain on your parade.
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VoLaTiLe posted:You look at some of the games that actually have been released the last 4-5 years by Sega (yes I'm talking about nearly all the Sonic games), they totally missed the fact thousands of people really loving want Shenmue. kickstarter doens't take the money until the end of the campaign
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dizaero posted:Seeing a large corporation promote a Kickstarter so a game that was being made "for the fans" was not on Xbox didn't seem right to me. It's a Japanese as gently caress developer that doesn't seem to be tied to any publisher. Why would they bother with Xbox?
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I'm going to a job interview today. If I get the job I'll donate half my first paycheck to this in the name of good video games.
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Steve2911 posted:It's a Japanese as gently caress developer that doesn't seem to be tied to any publisher. Why would they bother with Xbox? I get this now. And seeing how well Shenmue 2 did on Xbox, they could have grudges, which is understandable. They don't need to bother, its their game that they are Kickstarting. They can do whatever they want with it.
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Pomp posted:kickstarter doens't take the money until the end of the campaign oh really? Awesome gently caress me 3 people put 10'000 towards this 
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VoLaTiLe posted:oh really? Awesome And they only have a month for the regret to kick in and take it back.
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dizaero posted:I have no proof they have such a deal of course, so I wanted the devs to give a reason why it isn't on Xbox. The reason is they made a deal with Sony. They have no reason to tell us the nature of that deal. That's pretty self-evident. I mean there may be another reason (some kind of rights issue or... just not liking Xbox like you say). My point isn't whether or not there is any kind of deal... of course there is. It's just that whatever that deal is, is no different to Tomb Raider being a timed exclusive on Xbox, or Firewatch getting time in Sony's conference or that adorable euro-dude with the yarn toy getting pushed onto stage for Ubisoft. These all involved deals. It's not a conspiracy, it's business. I'm not a fan of the whole timed exclusive or exclusive DLC thing, but there isn't really anything shady about it or any reason we need to be informed about the "hidden" deals".
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$2 mil seems really low for a game like this, even if you are using an existing engine. That would fund a small to medium sized team for, what, maybe a year?
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The_Franz posted:$2 mil seems really low for a game like this, even if you are using an existing engine. That would fund a small to medium sized team for, what, maybe a year? The kickstarter has been up for like 2 hours I think I know thats their goal but I think theres going to be alot more people putting money into this (apparently its more like 9 hours)
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