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Apr 3, 2016 12:47
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Looks like a sequel hook more than anything, really. Or they ran out of time/money. Good game throghout, wet fart of an ending.
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HydroSphere posted:Thanks to everyone that read the LP, it was a lot of fun to do. Yeah, you did good.  I just didn't find the latter cases as interesting, especially the last one; I liked the swerve with seeming to set up Hilda as the conspirator and Diane killing somebody just to make Lucy's trial more authentic, but that was about it. It's also weird whenever games that are more or less realistically grounded suddenly have characters that basically have superpowers like Diane's Mistress of Disguise stuff, but that's a your-mileage-may-vary thing.  Thinking about doing any other LPs, HS?
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Apr 3, 2016 15:25
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Well, that was certainly an ending. Thanks for the LP. It was fun to follow.
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Apr 3, 2016 15:58
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I just have one problem with this game. What does it say about Hershel as a parent that Alfendi grew up to be like that?
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DanielCross posted:I just have one problem with this game. It was obvious the Hershel stuff (and the Layton name) was tacked on at the last minute to give the game more visibility and boost sales. Though honestly, given we've seen how poor Flora got treated in Pandora/Diabolical Box - left behind despite knowing full well she is afraid of being alone, and when they realized she got left in a previous town, he and Luke just kind of shrug going "Oh, she'll be okay playing with the farm animals", not giving a second's worry, he kind of showed some terrible judgment there.
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Aww. I loved this LP, but I'm sad to see it end. It felt as if it could have gone on for longer.
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I'm guessing this didn't sell well enough to warrant a sequel? Which is a shame, I kind of liked this cast of characters... and maybe we'd find out why Justin turned in the first place. Just his temperament? Jealousy of Alfendi? And why tie those murders to the Jigsaw killer? Is it implied he did them?
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Apr 3, 2016 20:09
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yeah that is not an ending at all... Good LP, though, thanks for doing it!
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Apr 3, 2016 20:11
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Yeah, it feels like they didn't really know how to wrap things up so they just rushed to some conclusion.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:So, uh, where does manipulating the kid for that statue come into this? I hope she has a good explanation. This never is explained. It's possible that Diane didn't know that the statue had no monetary value (which seems unlikely, as apparently Sasucasa was well aware of that fact), or maybe she thought someone on the black market would be willing to pay for it. My personal theory is that Diane wasn't actually interested in the statue; her goal was to kill O'Logie. Everyone else she kills, or has killed in the game are all part of her plan to avenge Keelan; the agent in case eight didn't have any ties to Keelan, but s/he was instrumental in the recreation of Pig's murder. I think Diane may have initially taken the statue either to help reinforce the belief in Careta's mind that a diablo was compelling him to commit the murder, or because she didn't want O'Logie to be credited with the discovery of the statue, even postmortem. There isn't really any evidence to support this though. Wayne posted:Yeah, you did good. I have to agree, I like the first half of the game more than the latter half (though I do like case seven). If the end answered more questions then I'd probably like the latter half of the game a bit more. Wayne posted:Thinking about doing any other LPs, HS? Yes. I'm not sure when I'll be able to start my next LP though, my offline schedule got quite busy all of a sudden. DanielCross posted:I just have one problem with this game. With how surprised and offended Justin and Hilda act after some of Alfiendi's outbursts, and Barton even saying that Alfiendi wasn't Alfendi at the end of case six, I get the impression that the Al before he was shot may not have been quite as extreme as Alfiendi is. I am curious about Al and Hershel's relationship though. I get the impression that Alfriendli doesn't want to have any contact with Hershel (I say Alfriendli, since Alfiendi never mentions Hershel as far as I know; he also doesn't object to being called Prof like Alfriendli does,) and I have to wonder, if that is the case, what could have happened to have caused that? Robindaybird posted:It was obvious the Hershel stuff (and the Layton name) was tacked on at the last minute to give the game more visibility and boost sales. Though honestly, given we've seen how poor Flora got treated in Pandora/Diabolical Box - left behind despite knowing full well she is afraid of being alone, and when they realized she got left in a previous town, he and Luke just kind of shrug going "Oh, she'll be okay playing with the farm animals", not giving a second's worry, he kind of showed some terrible judgment there. When it was confirmed that Alfiendi was the original personality (or at least, much closer to the original than Alfriendli), the first thought in my mind was that maybe Al ended up that way because he felt abandoned or ignored when he was younger. If Level-5 ever did do anything that explains Al's personality though, I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that Hershel has next to nothing to do with the way Al turned out, given that Level-5 doesn't seem to like the idea of Hershel having any flaws. Glazius posted:I'm guessing this didn't sell well enough to warrant a sequel? I don't know if Level-5 ever mentioned how well this game did in relation to their expectations? I think Justin was telling the truth when he said he said he got involved with Keelan because some bad people were getting a little too powerful. I don't know if Justin had any bad feelings toward Al; my take on it was that even though it seems like Al never realised the evidence in the Jigsaw Killings was being tampered with until case eight, Al probably noticed that something wasn't quite right, which lead Justin's plan to have Al killed. Something I've always questioned (on a semi-related note), is whether the reason Al went to Forbodium alone to confront Keelan really was because he was "trying to be a hero"? That scene could have just been intended as a hint that Alfiendi is the original personality, but it still seems a little unlikely to me that Al wouldn't have realised that going off alone to confront a serial killer in his hideout, even with a gun, is verging on suicidal. It wasn't a sudden rash decision that Al made either, Justin had planned everything out beforehand. It's possible that Justin did commit the other eleven murders (although, in that case, why use Keelan at all? That seems like an additional risk for no reason,) or perhaps there was a link between the victims that Keelan killed for Justin, and Justin tampered with eleven unrelated murders at random to hide the link (which would mean that there's eleven killers on the loose), or there's another serial killer around that Justin was covering for, but that seems like a stretch.
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