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Gonz posted:Tombstone is basically unstoppable. it's already lost before to another bot by built by Donald Hutson who made lock jaw, who is also the same guy who made diesector. sure its devestating, but it's only got 2 wheels which makes it hard to drive according to old battle commentary. lock jaw on the other hand has six wheels and they are also on an angle which means good maneuverability. i think
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I think Lockjaw, Bite Force, Stinger, and Overdrive stand some chance against Tombstone. Doesn't mean they have an advantage. I just think they could fight it competently. I expect it to maul any other spinners, and it kinda looks like it could do the same to Bronco.
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That Complete Control/Ghost Raptor match was certainly a bit of a farce. Slightly annoyed they had to fall back on "Well it's always been like that" as a excuse, no, you have to go by the current rules on the day. Entanglement weapons set a bad precedent, if you want to see less spinners and more wedges, because some net will just render them useless anyway so why bother with a spinner, then sure, more nets! Right decision in the end though, Ghost Raptor could actually move and was the aggressor for most of the match. I'm glad my local boys Radioactive got through (I'm from the same town as them), although the fact they had to speed up the footage of the axe blows probably doesn't bode well for them in the next round. Overhaul was being a bit prissy regarding that late hit. If it had actually done any damage then fair enough, but all it did was make Lockjaw look bad. Very close match though and i'm glad Overhaul are back in as a wildcard. What happened to Overhaul's weird walking system though? It was supposed to have cam drive. Looking forward to next week, should certainly be interesting.
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Jun 29, 2015 11:39
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Holy poo poo Tombstone and Bronco own. I also like Lockjaw, its weapon design is really neat. Personally I'm glad Witch Doctor got a wild card, it's a cool-looking bot and Bronco loving wrecked it before we got to see it do much.
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It's cool to see so many flame weapons now. Complete Control's flamer looked particularly nasty and I could imagine it would have incinerated it's opponent if it were able to get a good grip. Vodoos mimibot also had an impressive looking one that was able to score several hits before vodoo got counted out. So far while it's cool seeing minibots they don't seem to accomplish much. Everybody seems to go with a main bot and mini bots, instead of, say two 125lb bots. Horizontal spinners seem like the new metagame; the damage they inflict is horrific.
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Jun 29, 2015 15:22
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Am I mistaken or has every single bot that uses fire lost so far?
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Now that they also have gas powered engine robots, they really need to get pitted against flamethrower robots because God drat if I don't see one robot burst into flames and explode as some epic finisher I will be very disappointed. Hoping Plan X goes up against Warrior Clan for some 3v3 goodness!
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Jun 29, 2015 16:36
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Slate Action posted:Am I mistaken or has every single bot that uses fire lost so far? Nope, Warrior Clan won, and it's minibots had fire I think.
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Jun 29, 2015 16:47
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Blue Canary posted:Nope, Warrior Clan won, and it's minibots had fire I think. I'd put it out there that they only won because Nightmare is a massive  machine that beats itself as badly as it beats other robots. Also the flaming minibot got one shotted by Nightmare. I'm sad that Nightmare missed out on a wildcard.
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Jun 29, 2015 18:02
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mashed_penguin posted:I'd put it out there that they only won because Nightmare is a massive I think Nightmare deserved a wildcard more than Warhead or Witch Doctor. 
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Pakled posted:I think Nightmare deserved a wildcard more than Warhead or Witch Doctor. Warhead seems like an overhyped POS compared to some of the other designs. I think they gave witch doctor a pass because it had really bad luck getting flipped out so early.
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mashed_penguin posted:Warhead seems like an overhyped POS compared to some of the other designs. I think they gave witch doctor a pass because it had really bad luck getting flipped out so early. Why didn't they stick with using Razer instead of warhead? It had a unique weapon that could have done a real number to many of these robots.
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Are untethered projectiles now allowed? Even if they are, the problem is going to be dealing enough damage to be worth it. What about using induction coils to try to "cook" the other robot to death?
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Panfilo posted:Why didn't they stick with using Razer instead of warhead? It had a unique weapon that could have done a real number to many of these robots. I believe it's been retired for quite some time now and it would flat out not survive nowadays. It was made for Robot Wars where spinners weren't as much of a threat, rather flippers were the problem. Warhead, on the other hand was made with Battlebots in mind, unfortunately it was made with Battlebots in mind roughly 15 years ago now and quite frankly it hasn't aged well.
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Warhead gets a pass for jobbing like a champ while Nightmare gets nothing.  Panfilo posted:Why didn't they stick with using Razer instead of warhead? It had a unique weapon that could have done a real number to many of these robots. Razer would get obliterated by the number of horizontal spinners nowadays. It was slow and that arm on top is a nasty target. It was great at loving up wedges though.
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Warhead owns, gently caress the haters  Glad it got a wildcard. It actually wrecked poo poo back in the day, kinda hope they get the kinks worked out and start ruining bots again. Plus, it just looks so goddamn cool  Also glad the judges sided with Ghost Raptor. CC's net move was lovely, no matter how you look at it.
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T1g4h posted:Warhead owns, gently caress the haters Nah it owned.
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I wonder if ghost raptors spinner will manage more than one hit in its next fight.
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Was Complete Control's net present just some troll move? I can't see them thinking that it would fly.
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KyloWinter posted:Nah it owned. Yeah, if you like cheesedick tactics and turning fights into shoving matches  I'd rather have fights with spinners tearing poo poo apart and flinging bits and pieces across the box personally.
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mashed_penguin posted:I wonder if ghost raptors spinner will manage more than one hit in its next fight. I hope not. The race to the bottom that was its fight against CC was hilarious.
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Slate Action posted:Am I mistaken or has every single bot that uses fire lost so far? The only one that looked like the fire would do anything more than look cool was complete control's torch (which seemed to run dry pretty quick). All the other ones looked like they were farting lighter fluid or rubbing alcohol and those kinds of flames spread out as wide as they were for as short a time won't do poo poo to a robot not made of tissue paper.
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Panfilo posted:Was Complete Control's net present just some troll move? I can't see them thinking that it would fly. He said he read the rule book and noticed that the normal rule against nets and other tangle weapons weren't in it like normal. Also am I the only one that thinks the Battlebots arena sucks? The teams controlling the hazards seem not know when to work them. Don't think I've seen those buzzsaws or spikes pop up yet.
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I guess he was having issues with the motor or something because I saw it repeatedly fire the torch without being anywhere near the other robot. Based on all the robot fights I've seen, robots are more likely to set THEMSELVES on fire via electrical shorts or motor overheats. Icewave was smoking pretty fierce after its victory, for example.
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KungFu Grip posted:He said he read the rule book and noticed that the normal rule against nets and other tangle weapons weren't in it like normal. I actually don't like that robots can suffer a 'ring out'. It's one thing if a bot can flip another and render it helpless, but getting hung up on the edges of the arena has screwed over many competitors. Those augers are now a serious hazard, since they can pull robots up into a position where they can't get back down or upright.
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The ultimate battle bot would just be a that diamond plated steel in a pyramid shape with a dollar store water gun on the top on a gimbal so I could aim it into the electronics of my enemies.
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KungFu Grip posted:Also am I the only one that thinks the Battlebots arena sucks? The teams controlling the hazards seem not know when to work them. Don't think I've seen those buzzsaws or spikes pop up yet.
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KungFu Grip posted:Also am I the only one that thinks the Battlebots arena sucks? The teams controlling the hazards seem not know when to work them. Don't think I've seen those buzzsaws or spikes pop up yet. I think they said the teams only control the hammer hazards this year? The the guy controlling the other pop-up hazards is only supposed to use them on robots that aren't being aggressive, or are being pushed into the hazards. It's not his job to decide matches all on his own.
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GuavaMoment posted:I think they said the teams only control the hammer hazards this year? The the guy controlling the other pop-up hazards is only supposed to use them on robots that aren't being aggressive, or are being pushed into the hazards. It's not his job to decide matches all on his own. Apparently lovely contract work is deciding matches, I think the contest could handle a few more spikes and saws.
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Oh hey someone on Reddit emailed the producers about not knowing what the rules are so they ended up emailing him a copy of the rules and he was dumb enough to post it online. http://www.docdroid.net/152oj/battlebots-2015-design-rulesrev-11a.pdf.html
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I heard somewhere the floor hazards weren't actually on for the qualifiers, but now it's the round of 16 things should get more interesting as they get turned on. The hazards are all computer controlled aswell according to the preview video. So no more Nightmare vs Son of Whyachi fuckups. Also that's a very vague ruling of prohibited weapons. If they wrote down "Entanglement devices" there would have been no problem. Blue Canary fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Jun 29, 2015 |
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Blue Canary posted:I heard somewhere the floor hazards weren't actually on for the qualifiers, but now it's the round of 16 things should get more interesting as they get turned on. The hazards are all computer controlled aswell according to the preview video. So no more Nightmare vs Son of Whyachi fuckups. The rule is vague, but they obviously knew they were violating it in spirit. Which I suppose makes it all the more heelish.
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Blue Canary posted:I heard somewhere the floor hazards weren't actually on for the qualifiers, but now it's the round of 16 things should get more interesting as they get turned on. The hazards are all computer controlled aswell according to the preview video. So no more Nightmare vs Son of Whyachi fuckups. It says "and such" which is clearly very specific No, seriously, though, that's a lovely way to write rules. Ostensibly, building a bot with a passive entanglement device (like covering the outside with a net or mesh) would be within the rules as it's not a weapon by their definition (see: 7a) and is not on the banned construction materials list. The rules don't say anything about approving the other modular components of the bot, though I assume that they would and that may have been grounds to nullify Complete Control's match if the net wasn't an approved modular component. It would be interesting to hear what they have to say though. Mayhaps they're still active Goons and they'll come out after the show is done airing to talk about stuff. Edit: A body mesh might still be outside the spirit of the rules, fwiw, but still seems totally legal by RAW Xelkelvos fucked around with this message at 22:56 on Jun 29, 2015 |
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Xelkelvos posted:Edit: A body mesh might still be outside the spirit of the rules, fwiw, but still seems totally legal by RAW Pretty sure you just triggered some sort of warhammer 40k rule fight flashback with that RAW acronym.  The net box was pretty funny to see go down. The only thing better would be a box full of ball bearings
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So I read this part in the rulebook:keevo posted:
They must be afraid of one of the bots stopping the fight and yelling ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!? before starting the robot revolution 
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DarklyDreaming posted:So I read this part in the rulebook: Their true fear is of comedy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxxsJaOa900
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I don't know what's more embarrassing, that complete control didn't win on decision or that that lovely fuckin' witch doctor bot got in on the wild card over it
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:Their true fear is of comedy  Now its blind and mad!
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I would say that the box and net would fall under this category of banned weaponsquote:Weapons that damage the other bot by destroying themselves. plus this one bans it in spirit quote:Squirting glue, throwing out fishing line, ball bearings and such Though this is a pretty good catchall for any missed bullshit quote:These rules may change at any time with or without specific notice to you. Any changes made to these rules will be noted in a revised Design Rules document. You acknowledge and agree that it is your responsibility to read, understand, and comply with any and all rules provided herein or otherwise by BattleBots. It is strongly encouraged that you check the Design Rules often for any changes that may affect your design, build, and/or ability to compete in the Tournament. BattleBots reserves the right disqualify any team from the Tournament for any reason (including, without limitation, failure to meet safety and/or technical requirements) in its sole and absolute discretion The Glumslinger fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Jun 30, 2015 |
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they wrapped the net up like a loving christmas present though, it was beautiful 
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