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Prowler posted:By the last season, about ten federal agents or employees were outright murdered in spectacular and obvious fashion. Deaths everyday. Cops die maybe monthly. The whole keeping Charming whole poo poo was dropped in maybe session 3. to be fair a lot of the murders and gunfights are specifically stated not to occur in charming, but in other towns like oaktown and stockton but yeah a loooot of the premises of the show are extremely retarded, like for instance the reversed relationship of the IRA with the American organised crime world in real life the latter has always sold guns to the former, because the former is, uh, you know, a small clandestine organisation in a small country with very tight gun control, but in the show the IRA is apparently able to summon machine guns and rocket launchers out of the ether and then sells them around the world. they make it clear that they need this money to finance "the cause" but in real life that means buying guns, so they're spending all this money on ?????? also in season 5 I think the show just up and decides that all Irish people really, really, really hate black people just as a plot point apparently lmfbo
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Simstim posted:one biker actually got blown up by a mine on american soil in yool 20xx it was a mine but it was in mexico
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Top City Homo posted:i thought we were supposed to supply and fund the irish yeah it makes no sense at all in an interview the creator said that originally he was going to go with something that made more sense, EG the club selling drugs, but then decided that was too cliche because, you know, it's something that actually happens
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Mange Mite posted:I assume they're just brokering arms shipped from fmr soviet bloc crapholes, right? historically the IRA has smuggled most of their guns from african nations (mainly libya) using money mostly donated by the irish diaspora in america after 9/11 donating to terrorist groups kind of became a taboo and the IRA finally closed shop in 2005, with the exceptions of the RIRA (the "real" IRA) which was a splinter group that refused to accept the peace accord what they've actually done is very little; their worst acts have been a drive-by on a British barracks that killed a couple of soldiers, and a bombing of a hotel that ended up being empty because they got narced on by the adults of the former IRA who have accepted the peace process so basically the IRA as presented in the show is wholly fictitious
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I can only think of three cops that die in the entire show hale (the deputy chief) is killed off for basically no reason relevant to the plot and then barely ever mentioned again even in passing (the actor wanted to leave the show) a sheriff's deputy is killed by some neo-nazis in one of the later seasons juice shoots the sheriff at the end of season six there are also two federal agents who are killed, and one retired deputy marshal, but those aren't cops you could count barosky, one of his employees, and unser, I guess, but I wouldn't since the first two are clearly more criminal than cops and no longer cops anyway, and the last one was never much of a cop and has been retired for two years at the time he's killed I might be missing someone but I don't think so, I rewatched the series fairly recently e: oh right I forgot there's a third ATF agent who's murdered by her partner, but that's, uh, something an antagonist does, so TacticalUrbanHomo fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Jun 29, 2015 |
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I, uh, I don't see the jesus allegory there, I thought he was just taking his hands off the bike to keep himself from reflexively veering away I mean they really hamfist the "jax you are a horrible monster and don't deserve anything good" thing way too much for them to have been going for that Moridin920 posted:well I've always suspected this show was bad so I never watched it so thanks for confirming I guess it is, yeah, but it's still fun to watch imo A GLISTENING HODOR posted:seeing as there's no guns in America, we need to import them from ireland later they attempt to import them from palestine, apparently the show takes place in a parallel universe where the entire arms industry is backwards
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rejutka posted:A little earlier in the last episode, Jax met with the homeless/ghost woman who offered him bread and wine. Yes, it's about as stupid as it sounds. oh lmao I forgot about that I don't remember her offering him bread and wine but I believe it
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Jun 29, 2015 16:57
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Top City Homo posted:hmm should we go into business with hamas well it never actually happened, they ended up passing and the californian tong ended up taking it instead but in what loving world it makes sense that hamas has enough guns to sell or the ability to get them out of palestine I don't know
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Jun 30, 2015 09:24
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OMGVBFLOL posted:henry rollins with "I KILL [impolite word for black folks]" tattooed across his chest
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Vladimir Putin posted:I stopped watching when a biker dude got raped and burned alive for no reason. And then following that some random person not even a character in the show got shot and died accidentally for no reason. It didn't advance the plot or add anything to the story it was just random people dying and getting raped. am I forgetting something? I can only think of four people in the show who get raped. one of them is a minor character. one of them gets stabbed to death. the other two get shot. who is the person who "got raped and burned alive for no reason"?
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yep, that's two of the ones I just mentioned juice (the first one) gets stabbed to death in one of the very last episodes, otto gets shot to death by correctional officers in prison after cutting the throat of the retired deputy marshal who, among other things, conspired to have him raped those are the only bikers in the entire show I can think of who get raped, so who is the biker who gets raped and then burned alive because I don't remember that ever happening
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Jul 1, 2015 05:15
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OMGVBFLOL posted:for a generation that came of age during the war on terror, halfsack was a key character in making the show interesting and relateable. He was a vet who joined out of high school because Freedoms; he was half the kids I grew up with. the actor was getting strung out on drugs and ended up killing himself irl https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Lewis#Death
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Jul 1, 2015 05:18
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Top City Homo posted:i think it was tiggs daughter she wasn't raped and she wasn't burned alive "for no reason", she was burned alive because tigg killed pope's daughter I mean the show is dumb enough to make fun of without making things up
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Jul 1, 2015 05:51
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Khorne posted:If you think SoA is bad wait till you get wind of the awful netflix show sens8. there's... there's not? gemma kills tara because she was led to believe tara had sold out the club and was divorcing jax and taking his kids away when she realises that was not the case at all she makes up the most believable story she can to escape her son's wrath, which is to blame the tong which had a present dispute with the club the club and the tong become embroiled in a gang war as a result, and when august marks threatens jax to try to enforce peace, jax moves pre-emptively to eliminate marks in the midst of all of this jax murders a witness who, as it turns out, was the son of another charter's president in the resulting dispute, jax then murders said president, prompting a vote to remove him as president and possibly sanction his murder the truth about tara's murder is revealed. jax realises the damage he has caused to the club. he first kills gemma to avenge his wife's murder, then attempts to atone by single-handedly eliminating the enemies he has created for the club in the one way they would not expect, by gunning them down in broad daylight, and then allowing himself to be killed. it's not good by any means and way too much of it is exposition but it wasn't exactly hard to follow
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Jul 1, 2015 06:21
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yes that is all much better criticism and more accurate than "there's no actual plot" and I agree with all of it
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Jul 1, 2015 06:48
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gently caress the Republic. posted:Green Beret, Private Detective, Deputy U.S. Marshal. that isn't completely ridiculous to be fair. there's an enormous amount of military to law enforcement turnover, and absolutely anyone can be a private investigator. I'm a private investigator. it's easy as poo poo. e: I think they also said he was a harvard graduate, though. now that part is a little loving silly.
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Jul 1, 2015 10:16
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gently caress the Republic. posted:My point is, he lobbed titles onto characters which added no exposition, or dimensions to the character. It was meaningless. yeah he never actually does anything except murdering a hooker and then doing a piss-poor job of framing someone else for it
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Jul 1, 2015 11:39
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OMGVBFLOL posted:does mitch pileggi age at all or is he some sort of bald beefcake revenant unless he was born looking like a guy in his late fifties then he definitely ages but he already looked like that in 1994 so that's a possibility
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Jul 1, 2015 11:40
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I like how the head of marks's security team is stated to be a special forces soldier as well, so I would think all of his guys would have similar training except that they're all black. like every single one of them. in order to have a team that size he would basically need to have recruited every single black guy in the special operations community. SOCOM is literally whiter than baseball.
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Top City Homo posted:it was important to establish that he was a bad guy so he shot a prostitute to death
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