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Guavanaut posted:Pfff, nuance is for communists. Some old aristocrat blowhard was being phone-interviewed on Radio 5 the other day, and tried to draw parallels of Communist sympathisers of the past (because they don't exist any more apparently) with people who go off to join ISIL as "romanticising" anti-Western models. It was like the answer was right there in front of him, and then smashed it away in favour of marginalising the weak and poor even more.
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winegums posted:Had a quick flick through his website's comments (what is up with his website design by the way? It looks like the bastard child of Fox News and baby's first geocities page). The sort of people who comment on it look like complete and utter dicks, perhaps not too representative of the population at large. Guido is the UK equivalent to Freep, it's exactly the same poo poo from the same type of hateful spiteful man-children. I've often thought it would make a good candidate for a thread.
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winegums posted:Corbyn did well last night...came across as thoughtful and intelligent, like he's actually thought about the issues for more than ten minutes. Yes, I thought so too. Shame he didn't seem to get much airtime in the second half of the debate - I always find myself wanting to hear more of his opinions. OwlFancier posted:The police have an unpleasant tendency towards obfuscation when it comes to inappropriate conduct on their part, that should not be the case. If they cannot trust their members to behave in a way which would pass muster if it were always visible, they shouldn't be doing their jobs. This I completely agree with.
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coffeetable posted:Might be useful next time you're considering changing services: telecoms complaints data I'm with Virgin, and have been since it was Telewest, Blueyonder and NTL - I've had about 3 outages since I got it, in about 2004 - I actually get the 50Mb I'm paying for and I don't have to pay a Line Rental charge.
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Prince John posted:Yes, I thought so too. Shame he didn't seem to get much airtime in the second half of the debate - I always find myself wanting to hear more of his opinions. Because there's no way their children will then be taught by their grandparents to hate the western shitheads who came and martyred daddy. e: also, if we pick on everyone who acts like they hate homosexuality, we'd have to report basically everyone in my all-boys' secondary school. Gayness was incredibly stigmatised and hated. thespaceinvader fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Jul 3, 2015 |
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Jul 3, 2015 21:51
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http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jul/03/inheritance-tax-giveaway-welfare-cuts-budget-conservatives-george-osborne No shame at all
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Jose posted:http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jul/03/inheritance-tax-giveaway-welfare-cuts-budget-conservatives-george-osborne I wonder if he thinks of himself as a noble eugenicist when he reads stuff like this.
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Jul 3, 2015 23:11
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Spangly A posted:I wonder if he thinks of himself as a nob
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Jul 3, 2015 23:13
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It shows how completely ideologically driven they really are. They'll talk about economic responsibility, tightening belts and tough decisions when it suits them, but £1bn for people who've already done pretty well for themselves? They've definitely earned it! Meanwhile, we need to cut 12bn from welfare, without any idea where from or even working out if it's realistically possible, because deficit... Nothing to do with the affect it'll have on people, just a desire to see certain numbers go down and the state shrunk.
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Also, gotta punish those dirty fuckers who miss their GP appointments, never mind that you usually have to wait two weeks to a month to get one by which time it's either got better, or got worse enough that you need to go to some form of urgent care centre anyway so why bother turning up, never mind saying how you actually intend a GP's office to hunt them down and collect money from them for missing it in the first place.
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Jul 4, 2015 01:00
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thespaceinvader posted:Also, gotta punish those dirty fuckers who miss their GP appointments, never mind that you usually have to wait two weeks to a month to get one by which time it's either got better, or got worse enough that you need to go to some form of urgent care centre anyway so why bother turning up, never mind saying how you actually intend a GP's office to hunt them down and collect money from them for missing it in the first place. You could just call the GP and say you don't need the appointment any more. Waste of the GP's time aside, it's basic politeness dude. Crappy waiting times could be reduced if it wasn't for people failing to show up.
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Anyone else loving this storm right now? poo poo's intense.
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Mister Adequate posted:Anyone else loving this storm right now? poo poo's intense.
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Jose posted:http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jul/03/inheritance-tax-giveaway-welfare-cuts-budget-conservatives-george-osborne Not that I don't think he's a poo poo, but the article says that the IHT threshhold change is being fully funded by reducing the tax relief the rich get on their pension contributions. He's taking from the rich to give to the property owning middle-class. It's not quite as binary as the headlines suggest, as it's unrelated to the welfare cuts.
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Prince John posted:Not that I don't think he's a poo poo, but the article says that the IHT threshhold change is being fully funded by reducing the tax relief the rich get on their pension contributions. He's taking from the rich to give to the property owning middle-class. It's not quite as binary as the headlines suggest, as it's unrelated to the welfare cuts. Yeah, I mean I think it's a stupid change - because the only reason it's happening is because house prices are bananas, and this will probably encourage some people to buy expensive homes - but it's pretty low-rent in terms of Tory evilness.
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Renfield posted:I'm with Virgin, and have been since it was Telewest, Blueyonder and NTL - I've had about 3 outages since I got it, in about 2004 - I actually get the 50Mb I'm paying for and I don't have to pay a Line Rental charge. You'll find that a lot of complaints for most providers are stupid specific poo poo anyway. Like if you're on booking.com and you go to reviews of a place and there's one person who says the towels smell funny - that's the person calling Virgin to complain. I'm not saying that all of them are like that, but for the most part the millions of customers for the entertainment companies are just sat at home watching it. I know EE had a spate of signing people up for their TV service and promising to cancel the service of other providers as well as giving other impossible promises so that's probably why theirs is so high. Taear fucked around with this message at 10:37 on Jul 4, 2015 |
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Prince John posted:Not that I don't think he's a poo poo, but the article says that the IHT threshhold change is being fully funded by reducing the tax relief the rich get on their pension contributions. He's taking from the rich to give to the property owning middle-class. It's not quite as binary as the headlines suggest, as it's unrelated to the welfare cuts. Sure and the pensions change seems like an alright move to me, although I haven't read too much into it. But in the context of cutting to reduce the deficit, why reinvest the money saved into something that mostly seems to benefit reasonably well off people (I realise it isn't just going to benefit people with £1m houses but it seems like they'll be benefiting the most out of this)? Or even use it as a reason to not need to cut so much from other areas e.g. welfare? Mr N fucked around with this message at 11:28 on Jul 4, 2015 |
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Also, you earn your inheritance less than you earn benefits. So if we're all for promoting something for something, why do we like inheritance again?
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Prince John posted:Not that I don't think he's a poo poo, but the article says that the IHT threshhold change is being fully funded by reducing the tax relief the rich get on their pension contributions. He's taking from the rich to give to the property owning middle-class. It's not quite as binary as the headlines suggest, as it's unrelated to the welfare cuts. He could take from the rich and reduce the burden of welfare cuts instead. Doing these thing at the same time will invite comparison, and the result is Gideon is seen to be an evil gently caress who wants to keep middle class people well off while screwing the poor.
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OwlFancier posted:Also, you earn your inheritance less than you earn benefits. Because we are inheriting and we don't need benefits. FCVO "we" which includes Tories, that is.
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Mr N posted:Or even use it as a reason to not need to cut some much from other areas e.g. welfare? The underclass have nobody but themselves to blame for their situation and they do not deserve any help. They will never make anything of themselves of their own volition. Unemployment must be made a living hell so as to discipline these layabouts to venerate employment, however miserably paid.
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http://store.steampowered.com/app/369580/
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winegums posted:He could take from the rich and reduce the burden of welfare cuts instead. Doing these thing at the same time will invite comparison, and the result is Gideon is seen to be an evil gently caress who wants to keep middle class people well off while screwing the poor. Sure, although he's just being a politician and giving something to the proverbial 'squeezed middle' who got him elected. Don't think I saw this posted, but the smart meters being foisted on us will now cost as much as trident. quote:Smart meters will cost as much as the Trident nuclear deterrent to implement, with the full cost of the scheme rising to £19bn, according to a government report.
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Prince John posted:Don't think I saw this posted, but the smart meters being foisted on us will now cost as much as trident.
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Prince John posted:Sure, although he's just being a politician and giving something to the proverbial 'squeezed middle' who got him elected. lmao why is the register so pissed off about smart meters like all they are is a GSM radio attached to a your existing electric meter saves me from opening up the closet w/ meters
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and u get a nifty usage monitor. save electricty collect money reminder to switch your supplier to a fixed plan to save £££
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Malcolm XML posted:and u get a nifty usage monitor. save electricty collect money I thought it was because you're going to be forced to pay for them and they're hilariously insecure?
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Prince John posted:I thought it was because you're going to be forced to pay for them and they're hilariously insecure? like in a minor per kWh surcharge? how exactly are they insecure is jonny terrorist gonna go around and gently caress w/ peoples electricity bills it's the scada plants that are worse
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Prince John posted:I thought it was because you're going to be forced to pay for them and they're hilariously insecure? That and they're supposedly phase 1 of a plan to ensure power is adequate for critical infrastructure (under a competent government) or cut off the proles at peak times while people who can afford Electricity Plus get a guaranteed supply (under the responsible government of austerity and getting on).
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No need for the Black Maria Goodbye to the brixton sun
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quote:Repeatedly smash David Cameron into a wall... the most satisfying game mechanic ever created I get to have satisfying joy smashing Cameron into a wall and all my money goes to charity. Sold.
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Extreme0 posted:smashing Cameron into a wall Extreme0 posted:money goes to charity But which would Cameron be least happy about
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KKKlean Energy posted:But which would Cameron be least happy about Tories love charity, it fills the void created by removing state-funded services!
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And because it's Charity, the dirty, unwashed, undeserving poors should feel grateful, not entitled
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You can also get people to do it badly for free when otherwise you'd have to get trained professionals to do it!
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Renfield posted:And because it's Charity, the dirty, unwashed, undeserving poors should feel grateful, not entitled Gonzo McFee posted:You can also get people to do it badly for free when otherwise you'd have to get trained professionals to do it! This is not the place for a discussion of goons' sex lives.
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Malcolm XML posted:like in a minor per kWh surcharge? A major per kWh surcharge - it will cost every household £215, even if you opt out. moneysupermarket.com posted:The Public Accounts Committee has recently calculated the cost to be £43 a year over five years, a total of £215 for every household. I can't remember the specifics about security - but it was the usual unencrypted traffic, ability for someone to easily tamper with your metre, possibility of spying on your energy usage (e.g. seeing if you're away for an extended period) and the general unease about having inadequately secured household appliances connected to the internet.
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Prince John posted:A major per kWh surcharge - it will cost every household £215, even if you opt out. ehh just swap to an cheapass supplier and you'll save more than £43 a year i mean i pay for ~~~green~~~ energy and its cheaper than the variable poo poo i had before
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Malcolm XML posted:ehh just swap to an cheapass supplier and you'll save more than £43 a year also you need some fairly expensive equipment to intercept comms (SDR is cool but not cheap) and if you have physical access i mean that hasn't stopped crooks not having to give meter readings, now that's a plus.
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