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lol austerity....bad??????? whoahhhahsdaf
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Blue Train posted:underreporting != nonpayment Are you retarded
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Slaughterhouse-Ive posted:Greece is what would happen if you let D&D run a country
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NotWearingPants posted:Now that austerity has been proven to not ever work for around 35 years now, how much longer are people that insist on it going to be taken seriously? Another 35 years or so? Son of Rodney posted:Id like to be more informed that I am, but the way I understood it the EU is pretty grumpy because while everyone agrees that the austerity measures for greece are generally poo poo, there are reforms that they basically have to do in order to be long term viable, like cutting ridiculous spendings and actually paying their taxes, but greece is mostly "hm, no" and this causes the EU to not implementing solutions that are actually viable, since they believe that it still wont make a difference. Is this correct? Am I dumb as gently caress? At this point though, "reforms" are not going to help Greece did their way out of the hole. It's not like the citizens of greece are super-wealthy and that better tax collection would solve everything. They have 25% unemployment. The greek government needs to spend more, not less. They need a way to put demand back into their economy, or the future will continue to look much like the present.
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Jul 6, 2015 01:00
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Ant Op Inking bout Rexits On Ick Ills
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Jul 6, 2015 01:03
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EXTREME INSERTION posted:Are you retarded Have you ever done taxes yourself? You know all those things like mortgage interest, having kids, student loan interest that you deduct from your salary before calculating what you owe? That's you reporting less than you make holy gently caress
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Jul 6, 2015 01:21
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Omelette du Fromage posted:Have you ever done taxes yourself? You know all those things like mortgage interest, having kids, student loan interest that you deduct from your salary before calculating what you owe? That's you reporting less than you make holy gently caress no it's fine cuz that's mine I deserve it greeks are subhuman and don't
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Jul 6, 2015 01:23
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How the hell do you agree with the moron saying greece is like if D&D ran a country then spout some bullshit about how none of them pay taxes when D&D is all about the rich people paying taxes jesus christ you're dumb Greece may have some problems with people not paying tax, but that's the rich by and large like it is in every goddamn country including america
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Jul 6, 2015 01:24
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Jul 6, 2015 01:25
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Omelette du Fromage posted:How the hell do you agree with the moron saying greece is like if D&D ran a country then spout some bullshit about how none of them pay taxes when D&D is all about the rich people paying taxes Except one somewhat avoids paying taxes through loopholes in the system or donating so much that charities get the bulk of it, the money is still going somewhere. And the other... well, they just don't pay.
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Jul 6, 2015 01:27
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Shadoer posted:Except one somewhat avoids paying taxes through loopholes in the system or donating so much that charities get the bulk of it, the money is still going somewhere. are you familiar with the basics of progressive taxation?
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Jul 6, 2015 01:30
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laughing my rear end off that avoiding paying taxes through exploiting loopholes is nobler than avoiding taxes by just not paying at least one is trying guys also that one owes way mroe than granny antonopolous but well he just earned it ok
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Jul 6, 2015 01:34
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Omelette du Fromage posted:How the hell do you agree with the moron saying greece is like if D&D ran a country then spout some bullshit about how none of them pay taxes when D&D is all about the rich people paying taxes It's good to have social programs. However, these programs require money. This money generally comes from taxes 
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Jul 6, 2015 01:34
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Omelette du Fromage posted:laughing my rear end off that avoiding paying taxes through exploiting loopholes is nobler than avoiding taxes by just not paying Greece must have one giant, gaping loophole
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Jul 6, 2015 01:35
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Omelette du Fromage posted:are you familiar with the basics of progressive taxation? Yes. Are you familiar with the scale of tax cheating in Greece? http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/jun/22/greece-bailout-tax-collection-rates quote:Tax matters - Greece bailout deal hinges on collection rates
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Jul 6, 2015 01:36
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Greece is like DnD running a country in the sense that they would want lots of social programs (which can be good), however not enough people would contribute, everyone would be blaming everyone else for not contributing enough, or would realize that some people are not contributing enough and then they themselves would refuse to contribute, and then the country would run out of money
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Jul 6, 2015 01:40
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“In Greece more than two-thirds of the population – private- and public-sector employees – pay tax in the normal way, because it is deducted at source,” Theoharis explains. “The problem is that it’s still too easy for contractors, people in the professions and some big companies not to declare all or part of their earnings.” Lol, keep carrying water for the banks that started this poo poo in the first place
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Jul 6, 2015 01:44
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Omelette du Fromage posted:Have you ever done taxes yourself? You know all those things like mortgage interest, having kids, student loan interest that you deduct from your salary before calculating what you owe? That's you reporting less than you make holy gently caress Hmm, maybe everyone should just report that they have no income. That way, nobody has to pay taxes
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Jul 6, 2015 01:46
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EXTREME INSERTION posted:It's good to have social programs. However, these programs require money. This money generally comes from taxes who is this reply meant for? certainly not me Shadoer posted:Yes. I just looked into it some more since I was mistaken in how much of it was shipping, which you can't really tax too much (shipping was just 1% or 1/6 of that missing 6%). The articles I'm reading makes it seem like it's mostly lawyers, doctors, some big corps, etc. and I am fine with taxing them as any bleeding heart would also sorry for the lovely reply, EXTREME INSERTION posted:Greece is like DnD running a country in the sense that they would want lots of social programs (which can be good), however not enough people would contribute, everyone would be blaming everyone else for not contributing enough, or would realize that some people are not contributing enough and then they themselves would refuse to contribute, and then the country would run out of money rly makes you think
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Jul 6, 2015 01:47
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EXTREME INSERTION posted:Hmm, maybe everyone should just report that they have no income. That way, nobody has to pay taxes i'm sure you do
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Jul 6, 2015 01:48
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EXTREME INSERTION posted:Hmm, maybe everyone should just report that they have no income. That way, nobody has to pay taxes Well you can't blame the Greeks for needing to borrow all of that money. I mean, when you're country is right in the Mediterranean, one of the greatest trading and tourist zones in the world, you have to be expected to be poor. And since all of Western Culture is owed to the Greeks whom lives over 3000 years ago, clearly they need that free cash. I mean how else are they going to maintain all of those historical sites that are currently in ruins and not being cared for at all.
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Jul 6, 2015 01:50
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well, here's hoping greece joins the russian bloc
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Jul 6, 2015 01:53
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Omelette du Fromage posted:who is this reply meant for? certainly not me Maybe you should read a few more articles because you have no idea what you are talking about
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Jul 6, 2015 01:54
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Shadoer posted:Well you can't blame the Greeks for needing to borrow all of that money. Can't blame everything on Greece to be honest- they should not have been lent the money in the first place knowing that they would never be able to pay it back. This just seems like collective bad decision making over a long period of time
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Jul 6, 2015 02:00
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Shadoer posted:Well you can't blame the Greeks for needing to borrow all of that money. actually you are supposed to borrow money during a recession, this is pretty common knowledge e: this can be summarized into 'gently caress the imf'
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Jul 6, 2015 02:00
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EXTREME INSERTION posted:Maybe you should read a few more articles because you have no idea what you are talking about heh yeah you're right it's just that they're all lazy now i get it jesus christ you're an idiot
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Jul 6, 2015 02:01
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Why you so drat mad about people knowing Greeks don't pay taxes
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#NotAllGreeks
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Omelette du Fromage posted:heh yeah you're right it's just that they're all lazy now i get it jesus christ you're an idiot I never said anything about anyone being lazy. You seem to be fine with a good portion of upper and middle classes not paying taxes, which is fine I guess, that is your opinion, but not sustainable
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Jul 6, 2015 02:02
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EXTREME INSERTION posted:Can't blame everything on Greece to be honest- they should not have been lent the money in the first place knowing that they would never be able to pay it back. This just seems like collective bad decision making over a long period of time Well yeah. Fact is Greece was only lent the money on the premise that no Euro nation would be allowed to default, a notion that should have been stomped on really early instead of allowing to go on and on. Omelette du Fromage posted:actually you are supposed to borrow money during a recession, this is pretty common knowledge Yeah and then save in the good times. You know, not just spend all the time.
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Jul 6, 2015 02:03
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EXTREME INSERTION posted:I never said anything about anyone being lazy. You seem to be fine with a good portion of upper and middle classes not paying taxes, which is fine I guess, that is your opinion, but not sustainable try reading harder
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Jul 6, 2015 02:05
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Greece is going to be invaded by land througu crimea.
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Omelette du Fromage posted:try reading harder You said simultaneously that you were fine with taxing people, admitted that a good portion of the population who should be paying taxes (not poor people or grandmas!) do not pay enough taxes, and then have a temper tantrum when I point out that Greece has a serious tax evasion problem
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Jul 6, 2015 02:07
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EXTREME INSERTION posted:You said simultaneously that you were fine with taxing people, admitted that a good portion of the population who should be paying taxes (not poor people or grandmas!) do not pay enough taxes, and then have a temper tantrum when I point out that Greece has a serious tax evasion problem Nah I called you dumb because the one and only thing d&d would get right is taxing the rich
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Jul 6, 2015 02:14
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Omelette du Fromage posted:Nah I called you dumb because the one and only thing d&d would get right is taxing the rich While this may be true, I sincerely doubt their abilities to actually make sure the taxes were actually collected, which is where Greece seems to be having some issues at the moment...
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Jul 6, 2015 02:22
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EXTREME INSERTION posted:at the moment... Lol
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Jul 6, 2015 02:23
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[orson welles voice] bwa haaa the greeks... there is a lesbian feta by paul maisson
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Jul 6, 2015 02:31
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Slipknot Hoagie posted:[orson welles voice] bwa haaa the greeks... this is my tranche. i brought it from home.
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Jul 6, 2015 02:32
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I'd like to have seen the faces of the EU negotiators the first time Gabe Newel's former chief digital hat salesman started lecturing them on macroeconomics.
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GEX was a children's game and anyone who enjoyed the game from the Playstation one is a mongoloid
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