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Hjalmar posted:Besides that, there are no good generic lv9 synchro monsters. Cloudcastle and Giganticastle are okay. Mist Wurm is still amazing. Trishula is just as godly as it ever was.
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A new Kozmo monster has been revealed! http://ygorganization.com/wandaisthatyou/quote:Kozmo Goodwitch
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Jul 14, 2015 22:30
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In order: Needs L9s to work well, not much more than a wall, doesnt work on Ranks. Good beater (min 3100, max 3700) but shite at everything else. Mist Wurm needs setup or a flexible synchro deck but still is unparalled at the bounce game, imo a bit much investment for an on summon effect, and you really arent in a position to summon it most of the time unless synchro is the core strategy. Trish is still banned on the TCG. E: STAR WOZ. GET HYPE. (Why yes I do think thats the pun theyre going for)
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Jul 14, 2015 22:31
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Quincytbb posted:A new Kozmo monster has been revealed! http://ygorganization.com/wandaisthatyou/ Well that confirms it: it's the Oz archetype. I dig the Star Wars/Fae look.
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Jul 14, 2015 22:34
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genericsynchro.dec took a lot of killing, I can see why they're reluctant to bring it back.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:genericsynchro.dec took a lot of killing, I can see why they're reluctant to bring it back. I don't know if that was really a thing it was more that everyone played similar synchro chains regardless of whether they were playing plants/synchrons/teleDAD/lightsworn. I hope you like 4+plaguespreader into brionac or some other chain into dsf/brd or another chain into whatever my tribe-unique synchro boss is. (Daigusto Sphreez best boss synchro). Zoness fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Jul 14, 2015 |
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Jul 14, 2015 22:40
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Even if we got Trishula back, Accel Synchron still summons it easier than Stardust Assault Warrior. Likewise with Mist Wurm. I've kind of accepted that Synchro will never toolbox as well as Xyz does, but it's a lot more fun to pull off combo chains that go through half of my deck than it is to just summon 3 monsters -> cyber dragon infinity. We could use a couple more generic support cards, like a Synchro version of Lavalval Chain or something that hits backrow, but that's about it. Now, having said all that, if we got Stardust Assault Warrior with its original effect then it would be incredible.
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So, my second-favorite monster type (Psychics) is getting a badass new archetype, with this guy as a (generic!) boss monster. http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Psy-Frame_Lord_Zeta If you love Synchros and want to gently caress over Xyz players, Lord Zeta is the card for you!
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You've got a softlock for Speedroids with that card and Synchro Dragon. EDIT:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftQob4KbVTU
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Jul 15, 2015 00:41
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Zoness posted:(Daigusto Sphreez best boss synchro). 
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Jul 15, 2015 01:12
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Xoidanor posted:You've got a softlock for Speedroids with that card and Synchro Dragon. That line of Red Demon's. So beautiful. I don't think I've seen something as beautiful before. The king would be proud.
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So I haven't played this game since high school. I was wondering how awful my old Dragons decks are now and if anyone had any suggestions for improvement (without completely destroying the themes). Monsters Armed Dragon LV 3 x3 Armed Dragon LV 5 x3 Armed Dragon LV 7 x3 Armed Dragon LV 10 x3 Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV 4 x3 Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV 6 x3 Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV 8 x3 Spells Dark World Dealings x2 Dark World Lightning x1 LightningVortex x2 Swords of Revealing Light x2 Stamping Destruction x3 Level Up x3 Level Modulation x3 Traps Royal Decree x2 - Monsters Armed Dragon LV 3 x3 Armed Dragon LV 5 x3 Armed Dragon LV 7 x2 Armed Dragon LV 10 x1 REB Chick x1 REB Wyvern x2 REBD x2 RE Darkness Dragon x1 RE Darkness Metal Dragon x1 Exploder Dragon x3 Masked Dragon x3 Lord of D. x1 Luster Dragon x2 Dragon Dwelling in the Cave x3 Spells Swords of Revealing Light x2 Stamping Destruction x3 Flute of Summoning D. x1 Monster Reborn x1 (that's banned again, isn't it?) Mystical Space Typhoon x1 Traps Trap Hole x2 Curse of Anubis x1 Ceasefire x1 So yeah, this existed before XYZs were more than a couple of specific cards and prior to Synchro summoning being a thing at all. I expect they're terrible.
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The first thing I noticed was your lack of staples. Staples include cards like Dark Hole, Raigeki, Mystical Space Typhoon, Bottomless Trap Hole and some other stuff I've probably forgotten. Also, you've got way too many high level monsters in the first deck. You only really need a single copy of the L7's, L10's and Horus L8. Aside from that, I don't mess around with dragons.
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Jul 15, 2015 02:33
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We know three psyframe cards. All we need is a good one for alpha to add that lets you synchro during your opponent's turn, and you've got a great disruption engine. You also only have to run one driver, since alpha can SS it from anywhere. Psychics are loving cool and I want more of them. Also, psyframes introduce the first completely normal monster psychic. Risebell was the first psychic normal monster, but he was also a pendulum. Really wish there was a psychic pendulum tuner that could only be used as material if the others were psychics.
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Jul 15, 2015 03:10
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Adder Moray posted:So I haven't played this game since high school. I was wondering how awful my old Dragons decks are now and if anyone had any suggestions for improvement (without completely destroying the themes). No offense but they probably weren't that good at the time, a little unbalanced for a level up deck. And I know Heavy Storm/Dark Hole/Giant Trunade were legal at the time. No one will blame you for not running Cold Wave since it took forever for people to realize Cold Wave was good.
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Onmi posted:No offense but they probably weren't that good at the time, a little unbalanced for a level up deck. And I know Heavy Storm/Dark Hole/Giant Trunade were legal at the time. No one will blame you for not running Cold Wave since it took forever for people to realize Cold Wave was good. I didn't expect they were all that great even way back when. Was always a kitchen table YGO player that happened to (save for the cyber jar deck) watch the banlist
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I am so loving hyped for PSYFrames. You guys don't even know. Do you want to know how awesome PSYFrame Driver is? Do you? He's essentially a Psychic-type Summoned Skull, which is awesome enough. He gets all his archetype support, which is looking pretty good already. He's also a LIGHT monster, so he's good for Chaos stuff and works with Honest. Oh, and he has 0 Defense and is a Normal monster, so he works with Box of Friends and Masked Chameleon if you want to try goofy plays like that. For a Normal monster, he's REALLY drat good. I can't wait to see what else the archetype gives us. So excited.
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Jul 15, 2015 04:39
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Adder Moray posted:I didn't expect they were all that great even way back when. Was always a kitchen table YGO player that happened to (save for the cyber jar deck) watch the banlist That's fair, if we can do anything to help you get adjusted let us know. Dexie posted:I am so loving hyped for PSYFrames. You guys don't even know. It does look pretty sweet.
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Onmi posted:That's fair, if we can do anything to help you get adjusted let us know. Much appreciated. I've always liked YGO dragons mainly because they were fun to build around. Having said that, I'm less concerned with what's good to add (though suggestions are always appreciated) and more concerned with what I'm rocking that's utter poo poo. Primarily in the 2nd deck, since that's the one that tended to function on any level beyond "fun gimmick."
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Adder Moray posted:Much appreciated. I've always liked YGO dragons mainly because they were fun to build around. Having said that, I'm less concerned with what's good to add (though suggestions are always appreciated) and more concerned with what I'm rocking that's utter poo poo. Primarily in the 2nd deck, since that's the one that tended to function on any level beyond "fun gimmick." well it's hard to say, support for Red Eyes has improved so exponetially, using Chick or Darkness hurts you a lot. Swapping out your old cards to staples such as Bottomless Trap Hole, Compulsory Evacuation Device, Dark Hole, Raigeki, Dragon Ravine. Dragons in general have a lot of support.
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Adder Moray posted:Much appreciated. I've always liked YGO dragons mainly because they were fun to build around. Having said that, I'm less concerned with what's good to add (though suggestions are always appreciated) and more concerned with what I'm rocking that's utter poo poo. Primarily in the 2nd deck, since that's the one that tended to function on any level beyond "fun gimmick." Man. You like YGO Dragons? You seriously just missed out. You should have been around like, two years again. For almost two years straight, the game was ruled by an archetype called Dragon Rulers. http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Ruler They were completely insane and basically wrecked the game. Konami finally had to ban all of them on the most recent banlist to kill them off for good.
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 Technically dragon rulers were a series, not an archetype.E-Drags were some of the best attribute support around. If your deck wanted poo poo in grave, you stuck in some of your attribute e-drags for their discard effect. You wanted to banish your poo poo, e-drags. The only problem was, e-drags were better support for themselves than for anything else. They searched themselves, they summoned themselves, they did stupid poo poo from hand, they were the nuts. I miss them more than you can imagine.
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Lisandra_brave posted:
You miss unbanned Inzektors you are NOT an authority on what should come back. I do want to highlight the Hilarity of the Rulers though. Essentially this isn't the first time Konami has done a banlist with an absurdly top deck that everyone ran. It's happened in the past. It's just Konami usually just bans a few key cards or limits a few others, then the next broken set comes out and the cycle repeats. Konami made the rulers too good. So when they did their bans and the next tournaments came back, Rulers were still at the top, over and over, it didn't matter how they tried to ban them without just flat out saying "No Dragon Rulers anymore" it wouldn't work. They were an intrinsic core of nearly every deck, even the non-ruler ones for Lis's point that they were Attribute support as well. No cards that countered them were consistent enough to counter them. Konami finally had to just nut up and ban all of the adult Rulers (Unbanning the baby rulers, who were useless without the adults) so the meta could move on.
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I always found E-Dragons to be fine at one. Great for support, but not enough to go ham on their own. They also allowed for some cool Rank 7 plays.
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Dexie posted:Man. You like YGO Dragons? You seriously just missed out. You should have been around like, two years again. For almost two years straight, the game was ruled by an archetype called Dragon Rulers. But where's the fun if it's really good out of the box? (To borrow some MtG terminology, I'm a Johnny 4 Lyfe)
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Adder Moray posted:But where's the fun if it's really good out of the box? (To borrow some MtG terminology, I'm a Johnny 4 Lyfe) The deck was eventually cut down by Konami to where you could only play one of each of the 'adult' dragons. There were lots, and lots, and lots of variants of Dragon Ruler decks that found different ways to use them. Chaos variants, Lightsworn variants, Synchro and Xyz variants... They were overpowered as gently caress, but people still kept finding new and unusual ways to use them.
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 To give you some idea, this was actually consistent, and could plonk down poo poo every turn. It's nothing but 55 dragons. I miss e-drags so much. e: Actually, this one was never legal. Dank matter didn't come out till long after e-drags were at 1. Lisandra_brave fucked around with this message at 08:51 on Jul 15, 2015 |
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Yeah bring back e-drags at one for lightsworn rulers  .
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Jul 15, 2015 15:53
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That, but unironically. 
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Cabinet posted:That, but unironically. There's no irony in my post just love for lightsworns (and Tempest in Gustos)
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Zoness posted:Yeah bring back e-drags at one for lightsworn rulers That can't happen as long as Dark Matter Dragon is around.
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Zoness posted:There's no irony in my post just love for lightsworns Lightsworns were one of the first decks I played around with along with Chaos Dragons. They hold a special place in my heart. Speaking of decks I used to use, are Dragunities back to being workable now that Ravine is at 1 and with their new support? I'd love to give them a go again.
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gently caress Lightsworns
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Jul 15, 2015 17:54
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Lightsworns are great because milling yourself is the best thing in any card game. I say this as an unrepentant dredge player in magic.
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If it wasn't for Judgement Dragon, I would have no issue with Lightsworn. But unfortunatley Judgement Dragon exists, so :Beef Chief posted:gently caress Lightsworns
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Beef Chief posted:gently caress Lightsworns Thirding this.
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Lightsworns are great. But more important than that is the fact that DOCS JUST DROPPED
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quote:Kinkyuu Gishiki Jutsu Urgent Ritual Art Man this seems flashy but being a gishki card and not a nekroz card seems to make it worse. Unless gishkis are secretly back somehow? That said i don't know what this does in practice but nekroz cycle out of the graveyard seems neat. Zoness fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Jul 15, 2015 |
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Jul 15, 2015 20:18
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Gishiki is Japanese for Ritual. Also sites down it seems.
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Gishiki is Japanese for Ritual. Man reading is hard ok. I mean Ritua -> Gishki / Ritual -> Gishiki is so taxing on my eyes :|
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