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gnarlyhotep posted:It's a show that wants to be the modern X-Files or Twilight Zone but is actually long, drawn-out, poorly written sci-fi that drags on for seemigly ever before anything remotely interesting happens khwarezm posted:British PM fucks a pig and its broadcast nationwide.
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gnarlyhotep posted:It's a show that wants to be the modern X-Files or Twilight Zone but is actually long, drawn-out, poorly written sci-fi that drags on for seemigly ever before anything remotely interesting happens Charlie Brooker understands technology really well, he even has a Twitter.
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Jul 6, 2015 21:23
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first series is much better than second one but the second is still prtty watchable. gonna watch the christmas special now
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Jul 6, 2015 21:24
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If that's the only interesting thing about the show they could have made it 5 minutes long and saved a lot of time and money
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Jul 6, 2015 21:24
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surprise surprise gnarly hates yet another cool thing because hes a jaded old man who should hurry up and pull the trigger on that shotgun poised agaisnt the roof of his mouth
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Jul 6, 2015 21:25
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I'd say the first episode is the only one that really provoked uneasy thought or philosophizing in me. the rest of them are way hamhanded and over-wrought to take seriously
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Jul 6, 2015 21:26
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babypolis posted:surprise surprise gnarly hates yet another cool thing because hes a jaded old man who should hurry up and pull the trigger on that shotgun poised agaisnt the roof of his mouth Sorry, I forgot I'm not allowed to have an opinion, in a thread that is asking my opinion
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Jul 6, 2015 21:26
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Dead Set was good too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Set
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Jul 6, 2015 21:30
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gnarlyhotep posted:Sorry, I forgot I'm not allowed to have an opinion, in a thread that is asking my opinion i dont think ive ever seen you express a positive opinion on anything
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the Bunt posted:Also White Bear was easily the second worst one, after that really horrendously lovely cartoon bear one It was originally a Nathan Barley script making fun of Sasha Baron Cohen but they turned it into a CGI cartoon bear in the name of What If Cell Phones But To Much. Most of the scripts are ones they had written for older shows and have been kicking around for years and then just updated to make them more futuristic, which makes people holding it up as cutting-edge social commentary on the unique problems of the information age that much sillier. The pigfucker episode was originally written before Princess Diana died and she was going to be the one who was kidnapped.
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Jul 6, 2015 21:30
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babypolis posted:i dont think ive ever seen you express a positive opinion on anything if you don't see it, it doesn't exist, huh
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Jul 6, 2015 21:31
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gnarlyhotep posted:Imagine if Robert Heinlein and Stephen King wrote sci-fi about things they barely understood and were preachy about it
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Jul 6, 2015 21:32
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djwetmouse posted:How is that not just Stephen King? I added Heinlein for an extra dose of creepy/cranky old man-ism
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Jul 6, 2015 21:33
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gnarlyhotep posted:if you don't see it, it doesn't exist, huh as far as your online persona is concerned yeah
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Jul 6, 2015 21:34
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babypolis posted:as far as your online persona is concerned yeah well pay more attention, I guess
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gnarlyhotep posted:well pay more attention, I guess ok also your new/old av is shite
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Jul 6, 2015 21:35
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gnarlyhotep posted:It's a show that wants to be the modern X-Files or Twilight Zone but is actually long, drawn-out, poorly written sci-fi that drags on for seemigly ever before anything remotely interesting happens i bet you watched every episode
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Jul 6, 2015 21:35
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What if you could check somebody's post history...IN REAL LIFE?! #blackmirror
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Jul 6, 2015 21:36
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hemale in pain posted:i bet you watched every episode We're all goons here, of course we watch of every episode of something we complain about as being the stupidest poo poo ever.
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hemale in pain posted:i bet you watched every episode I watched the first 3, but gave up when I realized nothing interesting was going to happen, and it took forever to get through each one. I think it's the glacial pacing that really kills them. As I said earlier, it's 20 minutes of story (if that) padded out to an hour.
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Jul 6, 2015 21:38
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gnarlyhotep posted:I watched the first 3, but gave up when I realized nothing interesting was going to happen, and it took forever to get through each one. I think it's the glacial pacing that really kills them. As I said earlier, it's 20 minutes of story (if that) padded out to an hour. The Christmas special with Jon Hamm is better about this because it's an anthology episode, but even then you'll figure out the big twist in half of them about two beats before the show actually expects you to.
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Jul 6, 2015 21:43
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Sleeveless posted:It was originally a Nathan Barley script making fun of Sasha Baron Cohen but they turned it into a CGI cartoon bear in the name of What If Cell Phones But To Much. That's p. dumb since Diana's death was when the information age, 24/7 rapidly updated news channels, and 'What's YOU'RE opinion? Text or ring this number to let our television poll know" stuff was kicking into high gear. Its only gotten more relevant since as all of these things have evolved over the years.
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gnarlyhotep posted:I watched the first 3, but gave up when I realized nothing interesting was going to happen, and it took forever to get through each one. I think it's the glacial pacing that really kills them. As I said earlier, it's 20 minutes of story (if that) padded out to an hour. yea, i sorta agree but the christmas episode was really good
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Jul 6, 2015 21:44
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Being trapped in a snowglobe with Jon Hamm for a zillion computer years sounds pretty rad tbh 
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Jul 6, 2015 21:46
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It's pretty funny that the only episode everyone says is good stars an American actor. I'm a big fan of a lot of British TV shows and I can't think of any others this can be said about.
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Jul 6, 2015 21:49
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my favourite part of that episode was the suicidal crazy chick
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Jul 6, 2015 21:50
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I wanna make tv but I'm painfully uncreative, what can I do? O wait I know I'll just make tv ABOUT TV!! Has Charle gone critical and started a series of himself talking smarmy over his own various series of himself talking smarmy over other tv shows?
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Jul 6, 2015 21:52
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I only watched the first two, and then White Bear. The first one was alright, then the second was overlong and boring, and White Bear was loving retarded. It's poo poo like all British TV.
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Jul 6, 2015 22:12
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show is great What's with the people saying the show is anti-technology though? Has the creator come out and said that because that's not what I get from the show at all. Saying it's anti-technology ignores half of the show's message. It would be amusing if the creator really was anti-technology and the rest of the show's subtext was just a series of coincidences but that sounds pretty unlikely.
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Jul 6, 2015 23:45
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Shaman Ooglaboogla posted:I only watched the first two, and then White Bear. The first one was alright, then the second was overlong and boring, and White Bear was loving retarded. It's poo poo like all British TV. watch the third one its the best, white bear is the worst one imo
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Jul 7, 2015 00:19
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White Bear would be better if it wasn't so loving racist, why the bear gotta be white? Shiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeet
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Jul 7, 2015 00:29
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sometimes profound often silly really cold and dry much like british people a good show
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Jul 7, 2015 00:36
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gnarlyhotep posted:Imagine if Robert Heinlein and Stephen King wrote sci-fi about things they barely understood and were preachy about it His name was Michael Crichton.
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Alan Smithee posted:sometimes profound often silly Yeah but compared to lots of other British shows, it's not. It's really bad in comparison. To give you an idea of where I'm coming from, here are some of the shows I like: League of Gentlemen The Fall The IT Crowd Little Britain Come Fly With Me Peep Show (watched every episode twice) Hyperdrive The Top of the Lake Snuff Box and a bunch of others that are old like Monty Python and Red Dwarf My point isn't that they're stereotypically British or anything like that. It's that they are entertaining to watch. Black Mirror is just dull as gently caress in comparison to them.
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I Am A Robot posted:What's with the people saying the show is anti-technology though? Has the creator come out and said that because that's not what I get from the show at all. Saying it's anti-technology ignores half of the show's message. It would be amusing if the creator really was anti-technology and the rest of the show's subtext was just a series of coincidences but that sounds pretty unlikely. "What if cell phone but to much?" covers it really well. Take a piece of existing culture encouraged by technology: * 24-hour news with instant public feedback * Endless recreational culture as an omnipresent reward for submission to mindless work * Personal cameras in most people's possession 24/7 allowing more comprehensive records of everything we do in daily life * Chatbots * Whatever's in White Bear cause I haven't seen it * Comedians intruding on political culture * Automated home control systems/PUA internet culture/blocking someone from communication portals Now amplify that to a reasonably logical degree via plausible upgrades to existing technology: * Instant public feedback influences policy and decision-making before all the facts are gathered on any subject * Dystopian control over the underclasses' entire lives from front to back via media, where the only means of social mobility are towards larger and more luxurious cages and no one seems to care even though everyone notices * Cameras so refined and inescapable that their hard records shatter our frail social glue of lies, delusion, and false memory * Semi-organic bodies that can be infused with a sophisticated chatbot assembled from a lifetime of internet records, creating an imperfect vessel that pleases no one but is too real to be easily destroyed * Whatever's in White Bear cause I haven't seen it * What if the Comedian became a Politician and won, and used a cartoon avatar so the metaphor that the candidate is an empty vessel for controlling interests is really obvious? God that episode sucks * Automated home control mixed with consciousness upload/the camera bit from S1E3 but with committee/being able to block someone socially in flesh-and-blood reality You can see that even without having seen White Bear that's 6/7 episodes following a formula that frames progress in technology as horrific for the culture surrounding it. It's not explicitly anti-technology, but even if the show is taken as a warning bell for society to not get carried away it does a remarkably poo poo job of recognizing that human beings are actually pretty aware of their limitations and tend to include failsafes and find ways around potential horror except in the most extreme cases imaginable, none of which are presented in Black Mirror as the protagonists are all designed to be "it could happen to you" everymen and women. It is well-shot, usually well-written in terms of specific detail, and well-acted though, so it's easy to think its premises are a lot smarter than they are.
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Jul 7, 2015 01:27
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the memory recording one was really intense and good and actually an interesting commentary on the human impact of obsessive documenting our lives
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gnarlyhotep posted:Yeah but compared to lots of other British shows, it's not. It's really bad in comparison. To give you an idea of where I'm coming from, here are some of the shows I like: Looks to me like Black Mirror can't stand up to some of the other classics from the British Isles.
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Sonofsilversign posted:the memory recording one was really intense and good and actually an interesting commentary on the human impact of obsessive documenting our lives There's a reason that's the best out of the episodes I've seen-- it's the only one that feels plausible for the next 50 years and uses the existing melodramatic cliche of a paranoid, immature and jealous husband (see: Raging Bull) and not only uses the amplified technology to update that script in unique and interesting ways but vindicates the husband without letting us forget for an instant that he was a total bastard in getting his vindication and very arguably deserves the isolation he ends up with.
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Jul 7, 2015 01:47
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mind the walrus posted:"What if cell phone but to much?" covers it really well. Imagine if people were this joyless and pedantic back when The Twilight Zone first aired you just pictured the next Black Mirror episode
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I think its a good show, probably 80% of the episodes are really entertaining, if a bit silly sometimes. Utopia is another good show on Channel 4, but it got cancelled pretty bad recently.
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