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For the old War Promos, you're kinda SOL. Claus & Wyndham, Danny, and Robert are gone. You can still pick up the Ernie the Geek promo here, however. And the fifth War promo, Takeshi Kamikaze, is getting a relaunch with the War Promos I don't know anything about the status of the Devastation Promos (Bridj, VG Gal Iris, Legacy, Mark.PTO, Ramos), but if they're out of stock, they're probably gone as well. The nine War Promos (plus the physical print of Anath Adrasteia) aren't out yet, but they'll be in supply soon. The general rule on current promos is, ask Brad at a con and see if he has any. He'll give them out. --- That said, there is hope that some of the promos will come back around. One of the (unmet) stretch goals for War Remastered was a Claus & Wyndhal reprint. I'd bet that stretch goal might show up again if Trials of Indines goes on Kickstarter next year. Likewise, L99 has latitude to reprint those promos based on properties owned by L99 or its employees. So they can reprint C&W, Takeshi, Bridj, and Eliza at will, and they can reprint Lucius and Mark.PTO with permission of Eunice Tiu and Fabio Fontes. I wouldn't be surprised if they end up as downloadable PNPs at some point. Properties owned by other companies are a bit trickier, and are only permissible under license. This is why we will never see Danny the Sinner and Robert the Saint again--L99 no longer has a contract with Iron Clown Studios. (No big loss, since Danny and Robert were refined and reimplemented as Voco and Lesandra, respectively.)
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Hey all, rules question. If an attack trigger says, "Advance until adjacent to nearest opponent," what happens if that character is already adjacent to an opponent? Do they advance 1, then stop, or do they not advance at all?
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ActingPower posted:Hey all, rules question. If an attack trigger says, "Advance until adjacent to nearest opponent," what happens if that character is already adjacent to an opponent? Do they advance 1, then stop, or do they not advance at all? Unofficial Errata and FAQ posted:Q: On Regicide's "Psycho" style it says "Advance until you are adjacent to the opponent." If I start adjacent to my opponent when this is played, am I allowed to get one free advance over the opponent? Dunno if thats legit enough for you
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Jul 16, 2015 01:00
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Yup, that's exactly what I wanted. Thanks, Cerepol!
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Speaking of promos. I could have sworn I had a copy of the secret "designer" promos that were given to like 10 people, but I cannot find them on my HDD. Was I dreaming that these somehow got onto BGG?
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Blah Blah more Worlds info: http://www.level99games.com/catalog/tournament-documents/file/tournament-intro-season-2.html?id=14 Season 2 organized play document is out, including the draftable list. Season 2 Fighter List posted:Adjenna Callista Noteables: No Fate, no Arec, no Ottavia, no Sagas. A few surprises- Gaspar I definitely didn't expect, nor Cherri. Match format is Draft 3, you and your opponent ban 1 of each other's set, and then you play a 2 out of 3 with the remaining fighters.
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Mad Fnorder posted:Blah Blah more Worlds info: Well, three out of my 4 best characters are on that list. Thankfully, a few of my b-listers are also on that list, but no Aria. 
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djfooboo posted:Speaking of promos. I could have sworn I had a copy of the secret "designer" promos that were given to like 10 people, but I cannot find them on my HDD. Was I dreaming that these somehow got onto BGG? This what you're thinking of? http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1270402/introducing-elusive-mysterious-kickstarter-5/page/1
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Mad Fnorder posted:Blah Blah more Worlds info: I'm surprised Mikhail is on the list. He seems to be mentioned in the same breath as Ottavia and Arec when people around here talk about powerful characters. On the other hand, Kaitlyn did get banned from tournaments for some reason. I'm not sure why Cherri would be a surprise either.
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Dire Wombat posted:I'm surprised Mikhail is on the list. He seems to be mentioned in the same breath as Ottavia and Arec when people around here talk about powerful characters. On the other hand, Kaitlyn did get banned from tournaments for some reason. I'm not sure why Cherri would be a surprise either. I wouldn't put Mikhail up there. I also don't know why Sagas is on that list. Endrbyt is a tournament headache waiting to happen, though, so I understand that one. I stand by my opinion on Kaitlyn. In any given matchup, she either wins, or she loses. There are no even matchups with her.
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Jul 17, 2015 02:02
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OmegaGoo posted:I stand by my opinion on Kaitlyn. In any given matchup, she either wins, or she loses. There are no even matchups with her. That makes sense. Either her opponent has enough movement options to beat her keepaway game, or she doesn't, and Kaitlyn won't lose at long range. I guess the real question is how she could be balanced.
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Jul 17, 2015 02:10
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Hahaha, Cadenza is on the list. 
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Jul 17, 2015 02:13
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Brb, Banning Cadenza every opponent.
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Jul 17, 2015 02:34
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So what would everyone's three character team be? Mine would be: Malandrax Tanis Karin/Jager I haven't played War or Fate enough to pick any of those characters yet.
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I don't think I've played any character more than 3 times, but if I had to choose from among that list, I think I'd go with: 1) Tatsumi: My absolute fave, a hell of a lot of fun to play, and with enough moving parts that she can adapt to anything. 2) Rukyuk: I see the fighters as puzzles more than anything else, and I think Rukyuk is one of the most interesting puzzles to solve. He has a lot of weaknesses, but he also has a lot of brute force, and trying to find out how to squeeze out every last bit of that power every beat is frankly exciting. 3) Lixis: I don't really do "stand and fight", but in every game I've ever played, resource denial is one of my winningest strategies. Lixis is great at that. I'd really rather put Kajia in this slot, but Kajia is far too matchup dependent. Sad that my other favourite character, Gerard, isn't on the list. Not really sure why, either, he seems pretty balanced.
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Hmm. Are we talking "ideal list in a vacuum" or "pick order for draft?" Lixis and Kajia are both on my ideal list. Last slot is a tossup, depending on environment and how I'm feeling on tournament day. Probably between Tanis or Mikhail. Though Shekhtur is probably the smart metagame pick, with Cadenza/Cesar/Alexian in the mix. But in an actual draft environment, I'd probably prioritize Mikhail, even over the characters I prefer, because he's likely going to be a high pick on everyone's list. Whereas Kajia might wheel back around the table. And if she doesn't, Karin or Tanis are fine backups for my Tactician slot. But Mikhail is the only heavyweight I personally feel confident with in this list. Hrmm. Might also need to reevaluate Lixis in my pick order, since she got a huge boost with War Remastered. Unfortunately, none of my real favorites ended up here. No Ottavia, no Iri. I love Tanis for one-off games, but I don't know if I want to run her for five or six matches in a row. The brain burn would probably cost me a crucial play somewhere. gutterdaughter fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Jul 17, 2015 |
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Honestly, drafting, my first pick would probably be Alexian, if I could. He is one of the few characters who can semi-regularly out-powerhouse my #2 pick Cadenza. A classic hate-draft, basically. And then, because I'd be carrying two heavyweights already, I'd probably go with Hikaru for #3, just because I like his flexibility.
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Clinhyde, Mikhail, and Alexian. Over the course of a long day of gaming, I want to be the one setting the pace, not reacting to my opponent's actions. You'd have to be insane to want to play someone like Eligor in a long tournament.
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Jul 17, 2015 07:39
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Trasson posted:You'd have to be insane to want to play someone like Eligor True words.
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Wol posted:True words. I wouldn't go that far. Maybe you just live for the one time you finally land a Counter. Fun fact, I have only Aegis clashed once, and they followed up with a Dash, so I still have never gotten to Aegis soak-clash on anything that could actually use it.
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I'd go with 1. Mikhail: He's the one I've played with the most 2. Tanis: She's funny and I've played her probably the 2nd most at this point 3. Cherri: She seems hilarious to me and probably the character to make an auto-ban choice more difficult (Mikhail cheats, Tanis is like a greased pig)
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Sefer posted:This what you're thinking of? http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1270402/introducing-elusive-mysterious-kickstarter-5/page/1 Yes!
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I think Eligor is underrated, but playing him against a bunch of people who's tendencies you don't know is definitely nervewracking. Clinhyde's someone I'd be nervous to play in a high stakes environment, though. Same problem with Byron, though I'd probably scoop him in Draft if it came to it- low margin of error is something to avoid, I'm thinking. The other twist of this Have 3, 1 Ban format is you can present people with nasty choices... but they can turn it around. There's some merit to drafting say, Mikhail/Cadenza, if you like heavyweights, in that it forces your opponent to play one of them. However, if they ban your third, you're stuck with them alone. In a "Not Happening Ever" vacuum, I'd probably take Malandrax/Mikhail/Tanis. I feel Malandrax is going to be like Mikhail, high pick priority and will eat a lot of bans. Despite being bonkers, I think Tanis is pretty stable- she has all the tools, they're just somewhere, on different puppets. My lack of War knowledge is probably going to ruin me. I know there's some super-strong characters there but playing someone for the first time ever in tournament, well, I'm sure everyone can remember the first time they played one of their favorite characters and the super great choices they made with stuff like their discards.
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OmegaGoo posted:So what would everyone's three character team be? I was talking straight ideal (standard) format. It's a happy coincidence all three of those are on the draft list. However, I think all three of those are high-tier picks for a draft format, so I'd hope I get ONE of them... in that order. My b-listers are Shekhtur (who will probably also be contested), Joal (who probably won't be), Pendros (he's clicked with me recently), and possibly Heketch. Edit: On a semi-unrelated note, Full Moon Claw would be an unexpected and powerful 6 Power attack in the right situations. What can't Karin/Jager do? OmegaGoo fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Jul 17, 2015 |
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The Rexan vs. Karin&Jager match just ended with a Rexan victory! Anybody up for another go? We've still got Serafina Vanedra and Xenitia Zook from Fate to try out.
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Jul 18, 2015 19:35
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I'll get in on a game, it's been a while.
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Jul 18, 2015 19:40
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I don't think I've ever fought Baron? Or have I?
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Is that a confirmation? If so, send me your character choice! 
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Baron, Poison? Your game is ready. Best of luck to the both of you!
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Jul 19, 2015 18:38
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What are Runika weaknesses? She seems fairly strong.
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Shadow225 posted:What are Runika weaknesses? She seems fairly strong. Getting hit. Runika starts with a huge advantage, but once that advantage is gone, her styles and UB are really weak. She's one of the few characters who has a finisher that is basically "DUH".
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Tolly and I were talking and he brought up the possibility of Xenitia using her Finisher while above 7 life, but Drawing herself below 7 in that same beat. Someone who's going to GenCon should ask Brad if that's meant to happen, because if so, that's really drat strong.
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yeah, it won't come up in the game i'm running at this point but it might be applicable to the match actingpower is refereeing
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As a total spitball, I'd say that Xenitia shouldn't be allowed to set a Finisher as her attack pair when her life is above 7 life before ante. We do have some precedence, though. What would Hepzibah or Clinhyde do? (Of course, I'm aware it's the regeneration that's problematic. Perhaps, if Xenitia uses Draw to get below 7, she doesn't get that back EoB? You're right. That is really messy.)
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The Special Action card doesn't care about intent, though. If I meant to Finisher and Baenvier Antes, I lose that chance because my Special Action card got bounced. How's this for a weirder scenario- if I try to Pulse vs. Cherri, and she antes her token, causing you to lose a point of life but with your Special Action already down, you can then switch to Finisher. I imagine Hepzibah and Clinhyde get the same thing. Then again, Battlecon Documentation. Max Power Exansguinate once you're below 12 life is pretty scary, I agree, since you're pretty much guaranteed to get it off and not die in return, since I imagine a 9 Power attack was supposed to be counterbalanced by the potential to get KO'd before you do it.
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Mad Fnorder posted:The Special Action card doesn't care about intent, though. Incidentally, I forgot to mention but Welsie vs. Mikhail has ended! Another loss for Welsie, but she acquitted herself very well against someone understood to be one of the strongest characters in the game. I maintain that with some level of character-specific mastery, Welsie will be quite strong. She has solid set-up ability and once she is set up, being able to trap someone in an Anomalous loop is pretty ridiculous.
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I imagine with previous hints about wanting to move to Force Gauge as the standard we're not going to see a change, except maybe Xenetia-specific errata. There's a lot of easily accessible Ignore Stun Guard in Fate, so maybe she didn't feel overly strong, such that early access to her that this was an edge case to think about. It may have been intended.
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Mad Fnorder posted:I imagine with previous hints about wanting to move to Force Gauge as the standard we're not going to see a change, except maybe Xenetia-specific errata. There's a lot of easily accessible Ignore Stun Guard in Fate, so maybe she didn't feel overly strong, such that early access to her that this was an edge case to think about. It may have been intended. Screw Force Gauge.
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OmegaGoo posted:Screw Force Gauge. Oh? Why?
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Gutter Owl posted:Oh? Why? No particular reason. I'm not familiar enough with it and I have opinions, man.
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