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Lol Greek hitler is so dark and tan that a Slavic skinhead stomped him for whistling at a blonde woman
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Tiberius Thyben posted:I'm Greek Hitler AMA. foreskin, pro or anti?
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Jul 17, 2015 11:24
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- Let Ottoman Sultan rule Greece again - Forbid usury - Recruit the unemployed and immigrants as janissaries. Problem solved. No Hitler nonsense required.
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Jul 17, 2015 11:25
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Commie NedFlanders posted:Pinning austerity to the deal is mainly for the narrative: if the Greeks accept austerity, they are de facto conceding that the problem was "irresponsible spending" on things like social welfare and basically all of the band aids for when capitalism starts leaking because the only other alternatives to admit there is something inherently tong with the capitalist system and omg that means we need to go back and read Marx and repent for our sins Demanding that a country meets its obligations and keeps to a stable budget: A terrible crime.
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Jul 17, 2015 12:05
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this thread is like a good version of D&D, congrats. shut em down, they are obsolete now
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Jul 17, 2015 12:35
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steinrokkan posted:Demanding that a country meets its obligations and keeps to a stable budget: A terrible crime. Christian Democrats should all be summarily executed.
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Jul 17, 2015 13:05
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steinrokkan posted:Demanding that a country meets its obligations and keeps to a stable budget: A terrible crime. Yes, obligations borne out and made by countries that have far more leverage due to having economies that are not dependent on tourism and/or dairy and olive oil exports. It reeks of "bootstrap yourselves", just keep a stable budget and it will all be good! Systems is rigged against Greece, it will never be good in this day and age.
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Jul 17, 2015 13:11
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gritler will turn things around
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Jul 17, 2015 13:13
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Hi Greek Hitler here. Currently an under appreciated writer, will get rejected soon and go crazy.
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Jul 17, 2015 13:21
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Broenheim posted:Hi Greek Hitler here. Currently an under appreciated writer, will get rejected soon and go crazy. Greek hitler keeps trying to submit his anime fanfic to publishers.
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Jul 17, 2015 13:35
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modern day hitler would def. be an indie game developer
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Jul 17, 2015 13:36
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kickstart my game or i will become greek hitler
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Jul 17, 2015 13:37
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toga party
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Jul 17, 2015 14:20
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steinrokkan posted:Demanding that a country meets its obligations and keeps to a stable budget: A terrible crime. current hyper austerity policy goes directly against these goals and is aggressively punitive to the detriment of basically everybody european who isnt a bank hth
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steinrokkan posted:Demanding that a country meets its obligations and keeps to a stable budget: A terrible crime. Hmm I have thought literally not at all about the situation so enforcing austerity to inhibit their ability to pay while destroying their society as a moralistic collective punishment sounds good to me 
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Jul 17, 2015 15:29
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I love banks so much. The idea of banks being impervious to the fundamental risks of lending money gives me a huge boner. I will always defend banking institutions, especially when they tender loans knowing the recipient will be unable to pay. The detriment of the general public for the sake of banks is cool and good.
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Jul 17, 2015 16:08
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Hogge Wild posted:modern day hitler would def. be an indie game developer Is Phil Fish Greek? 
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Jul 17, 2015 16:10
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ANGRYGREEK posted:Yes, obligations borne out and made by countries that have far more leverage due to having economies that are not dependent on tourism and/or dairy and olive oil exports. Multiple Greek governments lied to get loans from other countries, spent the money on non-productive import subsidies (because it bought votes) instead on investments, now they cry about odious debt. loving adorable. Greece has decades of corruption and fraud behind it, of course it won't be easy for them now that the bubble burst (again).
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Jul 17, 2015 16:55
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Nuclearmonkee posted:Hmm I have thought literally not at all about the situation so enforcing austerity to inhibit their ability to pay while destroying their society as a moralistic collective punishment sounds good to me What precisely was Greece doing prior to the austerity programme that was helping their ability to pay? Bloated government spending that was backed entirely by foreign loans is what got them into the shitter, I guess you propose it should continue to keep the Greeks happy? Not to mention the Greeks are still doing far better than their neighbours without being visibly better at anything.
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Jul 17, 2015 16:57
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steinrokkan posted:Multiple Greek governments lied to get loans from other countries, spent the money on non-productive import subsidies (because it bought votes) instead on investments, now they cry about odious debt. loving adorable. Greece has decades of corruption and fraud behind it, of course it won't be easy for them now that the bubble burst (again). they got loans from banks, many of which were the same they paid to cook their books for them. governments got involved after the fact to bail out the banks. yeah better punish some pensioners and destroy the greek economy while those actually responsible never pay a dime and get off scott free.
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Jul 17, 2015 16:59
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Ambrose Burnside posted:current hyper austerity policy goes directly against these goals and is aggressively punitive to the detriment of basically everybody european who isnt a bank hth Greek governments have, under so-called austerity, borrowed tens of billions more Euro and spent them without making even token effort to reform their finances, continuing the death spiral of borrowing for short term consumer purposes, the exact structural problem that impoverished Latin America.
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Jul 17, 2015 17:04
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we need a run down of the current golden dawn mps so we can figure out which one is most likely to be greek hitler
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Nuclearmonkee posted:yeah better punish some pensioners and destroy the greek economy while those actually responsible never pay a dime and get off scott free. A country that produces little can't expect to maintain payment transfers that are, within the context of Greek economic performance, exorbitant. The other stuff is conspiracy theories without any basis.
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Jul 17, 2015 17:10
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steinrokkan posted:Greek governments have, under so-called austerity, borrowed tens of billions more Euro and spent them without making even token effort to reform their finances, continuing the death spiral of borrowing for short term consumer purposes, the exact structural problem that impoverished Latin America. lmao yes with ~90% of bailout payments not even entering greece and going directly to creditors, those dastardly greeks are just squandering their bailout on pensions at age 34 and not privatizing everything in existence
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Jul 17, 2015 17:15
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austerity patently cant work + is extraordinarily counterproductive in this situation and everybody who doesnt stand to profit is openly acknowledging this, even noted vampires of the third world the IMF, if youre gonna make the case for it at least come out and say that it's just cause you want those fatcat greek pensioners to pay and dont pretend its just the Rational And Fair Paying Of Debts
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Jul 17, 2015 17:23
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Nuclearmonkee posted:they got loans from banks, many of which were the same they paid to cook their books for them. governments got involved after the fact to bail out the banks. actually those pensioners didn't pay taxes but yes the whole thing is a loving human tragedy because in the end it's the common people of greece that will suffer for this
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steinrokkan posted:A country that produces little can't expect to maintain payment transfers that are, within the context of Greek economic performance, exorbitant. Yeah definitely conspiracy stuff and not covered by major news organizations  http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/14/business/global/14debt.html?pagewanted=all
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King Vidiot posted:Is Phil Fish Greek? no he's canadian hitler and he wants to put all the poors in concentration camps
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if the debt were hypothetically forgiven and greece were left alone how long would it be before they were back in the exact same spot? What were the loans being used for in the first place and has that need gone away?
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The fiscal conservative morality squad always places the burden on the borrower and never on the lender. Bad loans? Yeah, those don't exist. Only debtors lie. Right guys? And it's not enough to let lenders and bad loans off the hook, we have to throw out any social or political context and suffer the children because borrowing money you can't pay back is evil (even though the entire global economy is built on lending and borrowing, and every single person in this forum has benefited from this arrangement). And of course, instead of trying to fix the problem we can moralize and huff and puff about it. Greece will not pay back the debt, and Germany will be left holding the bag. All because the Christian Democrats and the financial technocrats would rather be "morally correct" in the protestant sense (ignoring their hypocrisy for a moment) than actually create a payment plan that is humane and workable. They would rather gut Greece and let it become a bigger problem for all of Europe, and never get paid off because of an inflexible view of economics. The children must suffer for the crimes of their parents, crimes that were actively encouraged by the rest of Europe back before the housing crisis tanked the global economy, and people started calling in the debts. It doesn't matter how many times you say "Greece should have to pay back their debts!" It's not going to resolve the problem. But it makes you feel good, right? And it lets the banks off the hook, which is always a top priority. Love Rat fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Jul 17, 2015 |
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Jul 17, 2015 20:13
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Love Rat posted:The fiscal conservative morality squad always places the burden on the borrower and never on the lender. Guys I signed a contract without reading it, it's not my fault.
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Jul 17, 2015 20:15
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The Taint Reaper posted:Guys I signed a contract without reading it, it's not my fault. Thanks for that perfect example of fiscal morality. Don't fix the problem that now exists, just wag your finger.
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Jul 17, 2015 20:15
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Love Rat posted:Thanks for that perfect example of fiscal morality. Don't fix the problem that now exists, just wag your finger. Please someone take responsibility for my 15 kids.
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Love Rat posted:Thanks for that perfect example of fiscal morality. Don't fix the problem that now exists, just wag your finger. another taint reaped
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The Taint Reaper posted:Please someone take responsibility for my 15 kids. Hey look, it's Mr. Strawman.
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Jul 17, 2015 20:17
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I made a bunch of bad and stupid decisions and I don't want to suffer consequences.
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Jul 17, 2015 20:18
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The IMF posted:I made a bunch of bad and stupid decisions and I don't want to suffer consequences.
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Jul 17, 2015 20:20
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I took a big steaming dump in the middle of the living room floor, won't someone clean it up? I couldn't be bothered to roll myself a few feet to the bathroom.
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"I made a bunch of bad and stupid decisions and I don't want to suffer consequences." -- Germany, when Greece doesn't make its payments. Your move, Taint Reaper.
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