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 Trailer 1 Rotten Tomatoes score: 77% Metacritic score: 65 BIFFORD'S REVIEW I went in the theatre worrying that this would be the film where Marvel finally slips up and makes a lovely movie, but thankfully that was not the case. Marvel has pulled off another decent (though not spectacular) superhero flick. It's quite an impressive track record, and goddamn miraculous when you think at how bad Hollywood is at making decent films. Kevin Feige's management style is sure to be studied intensely by future scholars and Hollywood execs. Baron Bifford fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Jul 18, 2015 |
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FreudianSlippers posted:In my opinion it's one of the best Marvel films so far on par with Iron Man 3 and Guardians of the Galaxy. FreudianSlippers posted:The villain has actual motivation and character and is even a bit sympathetic in parts.
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Jul 16, 2015 19:27
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MisterBibs posted:I think the best scene(s) in the movie were the one where Scott discovers that the out-of-the-way place is the goddamned Avengers building, especially when Falcon radios in to tell whoever is on the other end not to report to Cap that he got his rear end kicked by a guy who can shrink.
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Jul 17, 2015 07:16
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I kinda groaned at the scene where Cross kills one of his execs for some business reason that I forget, which struck me as a cheap way to mark him out as the villain. Aside from this, it is only Cross' attempt to sell the tech to Hydra that truly makes him the bad guy. Otherwise he is just an arms manufacturer trying to sell a new weapon. I was actually rooting against Hank and Scott up to that point, because Hank just comes across as a big Luddite. By destroying Pym Technologies he ruins a lot of people's livelihoods, all to suppress a technology that might get rediscovered anyway at some point in the future. Cross is one of the weaker Marvel villains because his villainy feels a little forced. Oh well. He's better than Ultron, at least.
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Jul 17, 2015 15:36
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:
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Jul 18, 2015 18:26
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dog days are over posted:Superheroes are absolutely absurd on every level and unless a movie goes with it and makes it pretty much fully comedic, it feels totally bizarre to me. It's why I hated the newer Batman movies. It's a dude that dresses as a bat and everybody's just okay with this? And they respect him? Bwuh?? No, you're right. The Nolan movies wanted to treat Batman seriously, and while I believe that is actually possible, they did it in a clumsy way that often made me groan.
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Jul 19, 2015 10:09
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Ant-Man is one of the quirkier superheroes out there, so I'm glad this movie is going to raise his profile.
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Jul 19, 2015 13:50
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I have some plot issues I need straightened out. 1. What exactly is Scott's incentive to help Pym? Pym doesn't offer Scott anything. All he gives Scott is the chance to prove himself the hero his daughter thinks he is. So is Scott being Ant-Man just to impress his daughter? Is it really just about saving the world? 2. That cop Paxton learns that Hank Pym masqueraded as Scott's lawyer and visited Scott just before Scott busted out of prison. Why did Paxton wait until Pym went to his company for Cross' unveiling? Why did he not immediately go to Pym's house and arrest him? 3. There is a moment in the Yellowjacket vault where Cross has a gun pointed at Scott's head. Hope uses the ants to disarm Cross. At this point, there is a strange cut where Cross just grabs a suitcase and walks out the vault. Why didn't Scott or Hope stop him? That was weird. 4. The explosives Scott plants totally destroys the Pym Technologies building. That could have killed anyone inside. We saw the building being evacuated before that happened, but how did Pym and his gang arrange that? The explosives were on a timer. Baron Bifford fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Jul 19, 2015 |
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Jul 19, 2015 20:31
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Full Battle Rattle posted:The gypsies remark, yeah. There's no way that nobody who worked on the movie doesn't realize that gypsy is a pretty serious racial thing in Europe, especially in today's internationally minded cinema. Struck me as odd - wonder if they'll change it for international release.
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Jul 20, 2015 06:38
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I was disappointed that they didn't show Ant-Man crawling up someone's nose and then growing to full size.
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Jul 21, 2015 02:57
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Terror Sweat posted:Wrong thread i guess Terror Sweat posted:It feels like a lot of the scenes just happened without any cohesion between them. The falcon thing was literally just tacked on to add a cameo, and every scene filmed at the house when training started felt like it was filmed in a cheap set over a weekend.
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Jul 21, 2015 03:07
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Kal-L posted:But what if Hydra is willing to pay double of any legitimate amount? Why are you against the free market, you commie?
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Jul 21, 2015 09:14
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Pym mentions that Cross was never a very stable person to begin with. Cross didn't know about the particle's effect on the brain and thus built no protection into the suit.BrianWilly posted:I'm honestly curious...what exactly do y'all hear when someone says "The term 'gypsy' is a very offensive racial slur against the persecuted Romani ethnic group"? Does it in fact sound something like "Blah blah social justice blah SHUT UP so I can enjoy my witty blockbuster film joking about gypsy curses"? Baron Bifford fucked around with this message at 12:54 on Jul 21, 2015 |
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Jul 21, 2015 12:50
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Kal-L posted:I don't advocate it, I'm just pointing out that if Cross wants the most money for the tech, as he's depicted in the film, he's not going to go "SHIELD is paying X, but Hydra is paying double... Hmm, maybe I shouldn't sell it to the bad people, because that would be too villainous!"
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Jul 21, 2015 13:19
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Cross murders an exec who objects to his plans because of legal reasons. He then tries to sell his technology to Hydra. He then takes a little girl hostage. Yeah, Hank Pym is fighting an ultimately futile battle against scientific progress, but that makes him more of a fool than monster. Baron Bifford fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Jul 21, 2015 |
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Jul 21, 2015 16:38
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There's a post-credits stinger that hints at the tensions that will be explored in Civil War.
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Jul 22, 2015 22:55
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effectual posted:Usually these comic movie threads have a lot more arguing, is this one unpopular or something?
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Jul 26, 2015 00:11
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Rand Brittain posted:Yeah, the redemption arc is completely hollow because they don't actually present the hero as having done anything wrong; they just have all the characters (including him) pretend that he has.
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Aug 20, 2015 16:00
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Adlai Stevenson posted:Like how Luis (?) comments about how Scott gets when Scott's cocky. So Luis has seen Scott in situations like this before and it wasn't simply the corporate job. Or when Hank says that Scott always goes back to crime when things get rough even though we only see one instance of that in the movie. So clearly there's more petty thievery going on, and I guess Scott was in jail in the beginning of the movie for that instead of the corporate job they bring up? The movie wants Scott to be the stand-up-to-the-man little guy but also have great burgling skills. Except they also don't want you to really think about how he developed those skills.
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Was the Sceptre lost in the Battle of New York, or did Hydra moles in SHIELD steal it?
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Aug 21, 2015 20:12
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