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People need to pay attention more in biology class so that they learn not to mess with venomous things.
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Azuth0667 posted:People need to pay attention more in biology class so that they learn not to mess with venomous things. you monstrous freedom hater
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Jul 26, 2015 13:55
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How often does a rattlesnake bite kill if unattended? e: hmm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_snake_bites_in_the_United_States
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Jul 26, 2015 13:59
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corpuscollossus posted:How often does a rattlesnake bite kill if unattended? quote:Davis was sitting around the fire at his family’s camp when he was bitten by a rattlesnake. He was taken to hospital, airlifted to Pittsburgh and arrested enroute. seems harsh even for a police state
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Jul 26, 2015 14:09
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Demonachizer posted:I love how nobody understands how basic poo poo works. Serious post: I am not from the USA and have no idea how the system there works. Do you seriously have to pay for basic rights like healthcare and not dying? Six figures? Also: Dirty Sanchez posted:The bill for each of my kids' births were around 35k each. I had insurance so we didn't pay a dime, but drat. You have to pay to give birth? Do you also have to pay just to see your GP?
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Jul 26, 2015 14:27
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VikingSkull posted:you're right they should have let him die but unironically
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Jul 26, 2015 14:37
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It varies wildly depending on your insurance, but a huge number of Americans have insurance and don't pay all that much for medical costs. If you're uninsured you're hosed, basically. If you're insured it's no big thing. I had $40k of knee work done and I think I paid maybe $500 total
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Jul 26, 2015 14:39
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Konsek posted:Serious post: I am not from the USA and have no idea how the system there works. Do you seriously have to pay for basic rights like healthcare and not dying? Six figures? Also: yes to all three, and it's not a small amount
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Jul 26, 2015 14:41
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Konsek posted:Serious post: I am not from the USA and have no idea how the system there works. Do you seriously have to pay for basic rights like healthcare and not dying? Six figures? Also: unless you have insurance or are in the military, yeah
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Jul 26, 2015 14:47
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I don't wanna rub it in
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Jul 26, 2015 14:48
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I hate liberals but I got admit single layer is clutch. Should amend the constitution for that poo poo, but lol we wont.
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Jul 26, 2015 15:23
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Man phone posting is bad
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Jul 26, 2015 15:24
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Melmac posted:Has anyone ever determined why ambulance rides are not covered by insurance even if you have the best insurance in the world? Everyone I ever met who had to use an ambulance owed about 1.5k for the ambulance ride alone. 1.5k, holy poo poo last time when I dislocated my knee it was like 50 euros here and I was pissed about because nobody told me but then again the other choice was to one-leg it from the hiking trail to hospital
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Jul 26, 2015 15:48
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Slipknot Hoagie posted:I hate liberals but I got admit single layer is clutch. Should amend the constitution for that poo poo, but lol we wont. just throw out the loving constitution and write another one loving lol
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Jul 26, 2015 15:55
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TacticalUrbanHomo posted:just throw out the loving constitution and write another one loving lol The US has the oldest constitution on the planet out of all self styled democratic countries at this point...that's probably not a good thing.
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Jul 26, 2015 16:03
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the fetishisation of it is problematic as well legal scholars literally argue over what the people who wrote it intended for it to do, who loving cares they're all dead and they lived hundreds of years ago they have no business telling us how to run the country today
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Jul 26, 2015 16:05
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healthcare is a for-profit business and that's motherfucking wrong if you're going to run a hospital, have the loving decency to not name it after any saints or associate yourself with any charitable religious group
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Jul 26, 2015 16:09
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VikingSkull posted:you monstrous freedom hater I Support the freedom of snakes to bite dumb humans.
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Jul 26, 2015 16:33
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Tautologicus posted:The US has the oldest constitution on the planet out of all self styled democratic countries at this point...that's probably not a good thing. pretty sure the magna carta is older than the USA
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Jul 26, 2015 16:44
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Rutibex posted:pretty sure the magna carta is older than the USA but the magna carta, unlike the US constitution, is almost entirely legally obsolete last I checked there were like two clauses in it that still remained law and they were relatively ineffectual ones
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Jul 26, 2015 16:46
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TacticalUrbanHomo posted:but the magna carta, unlike the US constitution, is almost entirely legally obsolete ok, if you want to be pedantic, the vatican state is a democracy and has had a written constitution for 2015 years 
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Jul 26, 2015 16:59
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Rutibex posted:pretty sure the magna carta is older than the USA The Magna Carta isn't really a full constitution, though, more of a power-sharing agreement between the King, church and nobles. It's notable 'cause it's the first official document to challenge the divine right of kings. *what I remember from college 28 years ago, might be slightly off.
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Jul 26, 2015 17:30
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Rutibex posted:ok, if you want to be pedantic, the vatican state is a democracy and has had a written constitution for 2015 years But not the same one, was redone as recently as 2000 and before that in 1988, so says the internet. And now it's going to happen again http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/the-pope/10342768/Pope-Francis-to-rip-up-and-rewrite-Vatican-constitution.html
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Jul 26, 2015 17:30
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Konsek posted:Serious post: I am not from the USA and have no idea how the system there works. Do you seriously have to pay for basic rights like healthcare and not dying? Six figures? Most bankruptcies in the USA are from medical bills. 60% of those bankrupted by medical bills have health insurance . Surprising to no one is the fact that they try to get out of paying claims whenever possible. "Your son's liver treatment was considered experimental thus not covered, read page 812 of your agreement shitlord"
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Jul 26, 2015 18:22
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I think a cool thing about US heath care is if you are poor, suicidal, and don't have insurance you can forcibly be taken to the psych ward and given a several thousand dollar bill, which really helps with emotional stability.
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Jul 26, 2015 19:01
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Ocean Book posted:I think a cool thing about US heath care is if you are poor, suicidal, and don't have insurance you can forcibly be taken to the psych ward and given a several thousand dollar bill, which really helps with emotional stability. I wonder what can go wrong with their being a financial motivation behind giving patients crap they don't need http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/09/17/michigan-doctor-admits-giving-patients-unnecessary-cancer-treatments/
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Jul 26, 2015 22:29
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Rutibex posted:ok, if you want to be pedantic, the vatican state is a democracy and has had a written constitution for 2015 years obviously I don't want to be pedantic, otherwise I would have agreed with you on the basis that at least two lines of the magna carta are still law but if I did want to be pedantic I wouldn't bring up the vatican since it has only continuously been a state since 1929
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Jul 27, 2015 00:03
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Jesus Christ posted:Enjoy your bill for a simple loving rattlesnake bite could have saved 140 grand by dying instead
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Jul 27, 2015 00:52
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TacticalUrbanHomo posted:obviously I don't want to be pedantic, otherwise I would have agreed with you on the basis that at least two lines of the magna carta are still law the kingdom of italy is poo poo, before that the papal state was a legit territory for like 1000 years and by "written constitution" meant the bible though i guess that doesn't go back to jesus himself, it was drafted in AD 325
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Jul 27, 2015 01:09
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I used to know a guy who got a fairly well-paying job (something like 80k+) within the health insurance industry. His job was literally just to look for loopholes and technicalities in people's plans in order to deny them coverage. Apparently his coworkers would gather around during breaks and company events and brag about how much money they had saved the company by denying people coverage; Being proud of loving over desperate people was the official office culture. He ended up quitting after about a year because he felt like working there was the equivalent to selling his soul.
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Jul 27, 2015 01:23
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Pitdragon posted:I used to know a guy who got a fairly well-paying job (something like 80k+) within the health insurance industry. His job was literally just to look for loopholes and technicalities in people's plans in order to deny them coverage. Apparently his coworkers would gather around during breaks and company events and brag about how much money they had saved the company by denying people coverage; Being proud of loving over desperate people was the official office culture. He ended up quitting after about a year because he felt like working there was the equivalent to selling his soul. yeah that's why it's real annoying when people say "lol lazy bastard get a job with health insurance". It's not that. It's like pulling fingernails when you finally do need to go to the doctor to get them to pay for anything. "The doctor who replaced your knee is covered but the guy he got to come in and assist him is not covered so you owe $32,998; we'll accept $15,596 as a one time courtesy."
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Jul 27, 2015 01:26
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Pitdragon posted:I used to know a guy who got a fairly well-paying job (something like 80k+) within the health insurance industry. His job was literally just to look for loopholes and technicalities in people's plans in order to deny them coverage. Apparently his coworkers would gather around during breaks and company events and brag about how much money they had saved the company by denying people coverage; Being proud of loving over desperate people was the official office culture. He ended up quitting after about a year because he felt like working there was the equivalent to selling his soul. Jesus, all I can see in my mind is the dad from "The Incredibles" at his job at the beginning of the movie.
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Jul 27, 2015 01:36
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Slipknot Hoagie posted:If you dont have insurance then surely u have saved 25% of your weekly salary into a fund that you use to self insure. lol
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Jul 27, 2015 01:36
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JnnyThndrs posted:Jesus, all I can see in my mind is the dad from "The Incredibles" at his job at the beginning of the movie. Hahaha never thought of that but yeah pretty much. He even told me one time about a kid who needed surgery but there was a big loophole to deny coverage, I can't remember the specifics but he ends up feeling bad for this kid and authorizing coverage, his boss learns about this and he ended up getting chewed out for it.
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Jul 27, 2015 01:45
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Shirley Crabtree posted:What? The land of the free? Whoever told you that is your enemy. Now something must be done, about vengeance, a badge and a gun. 'Cause I'll rip the mike, rip the stage, rip the system, I was born to rage against 'em. Now action must be taken. We don't need the key we'll break in. ALL OF WHICH ARE AMERICAN DREAMS
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Jul 27, 2015 01:51
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haha u get to live but only in slavery to the hospital, roflmao.
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Jul 27, 2015 01:59
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Konsek posted:Serious post: I am not from the USA and have no idea how the system there works. Do you seriously have to pay for basic rights like healthcare and not dying? Six figures? Also: the answer to every question you might have about the US healthcare system: Yes you have to pay a lot for that and no there's nothing you can do about it besides go bankrupt.
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Jul 27, 2015 02:57
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Melmac posted:Has anyone ever determined why ambulance rides are not covered by insurance even if you have the best insurance in the world? Everyone I ever met who had to use an ambulance owed about 1.5k for the ambulance ride alone. My insurance covers this.I opted in for it specifically because I live quite a ways from a hospital. Also short and long term disability, emergency and standard medical care around the clock at a 10% copay, 15% copay on any major surgery even if it requires a specialist. Plus a bunch of other stuff for $25 a week. Basically it's the only reason I still work my current job and don't seek out something better
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Jul 27, 2015 03:12
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SocketWrench posted:emergency and standard medical care around the clock at a 10% copay, 15% copay on any major surgery even if it requires a specialist. oh cool, so if you were the OP you'd only owe $15,316 for a snake bite. Sounds like a sweet deal.
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