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buddhanc posted:you sound like fun I'm not fun, actually.
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Germstore posted:"historical differences" says the person who doesn't have an actual good argument. yeah, women and men probably have been treated equally the entirety of human history.
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Jul 26, 2015 19:40
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Ocean Book posted:yeah, women and men probably have been treated equally the entirety of human history. What does that have to do with anything? Welp, better weight a woman's argument more because historically.. hurp durp durp.
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Jul 26, 2015 19:42
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men got to be in charge because they were way stronger which allowed them to rule essentially everything and even ensure that they become smarter by controlling education. men are beautiful and powerful
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Jul 26, 2015 19:42
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Ocean Book posted:I'm not fun, actually. playing hard to get
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Jul 26, 2015 19:50
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Okay well, I'm a woman and I too think these broads are wrong. Come at me.
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Jul 26, 2015 19:52
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A woman from a poor country in Africa or Eastern Europe comes to Germany or the Netherlands to make a better life for herself and finds a job where she makes insane amounts of money and somehow this is a crime against humanity and she's the one being exploited?
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Jul 26, 2015 19:57
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I think I the opinion expressed by the women in the op is wrong too. I just think using the argument that one woman is a 'lady who shows her tits on TV' to invalidate her opinion isnt a coherent or helpful or good faith argument and I think it reflects a gender bias in the way men and women's opinions are treated.
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Jul 26, 2015 20:00
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Ocean Book posted:I think I the opinion expressed by the women in the op is wrong too. I just think using the argument that one woman is a 'lady who shows her tits on TV' to invalidate her opinion isnt a coherent or helpful or good faith argument and I think it reflects a gender bias in the way men and women's opinions are treated. Oh okay, sure. Gotcha. I thought that was a weird argument too.
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Jul 26, 2015 20:15
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Ocean Book posted:You are obviously 'permitted' to say what you want about someone's opinions. Some grump on an Internet forum saying that dismissing a woman's opinion because of her career is problematic in this instance doesn't mean you aren't 'permitted' to say your end.
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Jul 26, 2015 20:18
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I don't think legalizing depravity helps anyone
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Jul 26, 2015 20:25
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corpuscollossus posted:I don't think legalizing depravity helps anyone sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. the law should really aim to help people instead of enforcing a moral code. this sounds milquetoast but in practice it is shocking and unconscionable to liberals and conservatives alike.
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Jul 26, 2015 20:28
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the Dutch system sucks. The Swedish system is okay. The New Zealand system is really good. Iceland has even banned stripping which is weird, but there was also literally nary an Icelandic-born stripper in the country when they passed the law, and they're hardly prudes
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Jul 26, 2015 20:31
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Borneo Jimmy posted:A woman from a poor country in Africa or Eastern Europe comes to Germany or the Netherlands to make a better life for herself and finds a job where she makes insane amounts of money and somehow this is a crime against humanity and she's the one being exploited? If she's been separated from everyone she knows, is indoctrinated/beaten until she views her pimp and his other prostitutes as her family, is moved from city to city to keep her from forming other connections, and is, on average, 13 years old when she is trafficked into another country and forced into prostitution, yes.
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eSports Chaebol posted:the Dutch system sucks. The Swedish system is okay. The New Zealand system is really good. Iceland has even banned stripping which is weird, but there was also literally nary an Icelandic-born stripper in the country when they passed the law, and they're hardly prudes the swedish system is loving retarded and the worst of all possible worlds but something about it tickles the self-righteousness centers of wishy-washy dickweeds so it'll probably be universally adopted in 20 years, to the detriment of everyone except evil pimps, cops and the ngo-industrial complex
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Jul 26, 2015 20:37
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corpuscollossus posted:I don't think legalizing depravity helps anyone 'depravity' is subjective... also bullshit in this context. it's just sex. it's a basic function of life, and humans attaching all this moral gravitas to it when it's between consenting adults is objectively, intellectually stupid people possessing a 'good' that is in demand should be allowed to sell it on their own terms, and profit, so long as it does not harm society. sex does not harm society. prostitution is our species' oldest profession, and will always exist in some form or fashion. making it illegal really only creates victims, because then prostitutes by necessity are pimped by criminal elements, whom are their own authority, and obviously abuse follows naturally if prostitution was legal, it would enjoy all the benefits of lawful oversight and protection. the abuse that's typical of criminal prostitution would effectively be ended vyst posted:She's just mad nobody would pay money to have sex with her ninotoreS fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Jul 26, 2015 |
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Prostitution is like drugs. They should be legal, because a consenting adult has a right to sell their body, or smoke/snort/inject drugs. But neither vices contribute anything positive to society, and are very damaging in my opinion. People use drugs to escape reality instead of confronting their own reality and making it something that they want to experience. Men use prostitutes to cheat on their wives, which challenges the integrity of marriage in the US, or they are men who are socially and mental broken to the point where interacting with women or trying to court them will only end in tears. Men who are cheating on their wives should be shamed and penalized. Men who are unable to find a regular mate, should be given therapy, social etiquette class's, and maybe a stipend depending on the severity of their social illness. The only thing that bugs me about this is that women like Lena Dunham pretend to care about trafficking victims, but she really doesn't. The reason women like her, and others despise prostitution is because it takes away men who would otherwise spend money, time, and resources on them in some futile attempt to get laid.
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Jul 26, 2015 21:01
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Yo seriously how has this not been turned into a "post hot boobs" thread
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Jul 26, 2015 21:02
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Like why do some people sell their bodies for 8 hours to a corporation that's ok but if a woman wants, totally rationally and without coercion obviously, to sell her body to gently caress suddenly its a moral issue? I mean like come on people it's sex, it's not like its some special thing, it's just like bolting on a fender, but with your oval office.
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Jul 26, 2015 21:06
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Sono posted:13 years old when she is trafficked into another country and forced into prostitution That's a bogus stat which has been repeatedly debunked https://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2011/11/27/the-law-of-averages/
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Sex is very easy to get without payingI'm Crap posted:the dutch system is the largely the same as the new zealand one btw, they just never enforce it unless a property developer needs to acquire a former brothel on the cheap Maybe, but sweden is also highly sexually liberated and feministic so you find yourself sharing payment for dates, not having to buy drinks and just generally having sex without some weird man must pay man must be stronk and have high status-mentality or slut shaming mentality. Feminism is like just awesome for having lots of free, powerbalanced, casual sex i dont get why men feel so emasculated by it. The funniest thing is seeing american men like roosh who doesnt understand this and is angry as gently caress that he has no success by trying too hard to be the most awesome guy in the room, so he tries even harder next time. if he just stopped trying he would get laid so much since sex isnt some weirdo currency thing. Be laid back yo. Also prostitution is wrong and weird and people shouldnt pay for sex or sell for sex, maybe disabled fat guys could get some sort of free pass or something. Strip clubs are also weird and basically all of usa is incredibly weird about sex.
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Jul 26, 2015 21:21
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Borneo Jimmy posted:That's a bogus stat which has been repeatedly debunked I wonder how this lady would deal with the debunked stat of 77 cents hrmmm
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Curdy Lemonstan posted:Sex is very easy to get without paying e: i mean you talk like one of the loving europeans from family guy so you could be
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Lena Dunham also raped her sister full of pebbles and made money off a book describing it in great detail yet hasn't been prosecuted for child pornography
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BottledBodhisvata posted:Yeah, what's the problem with this? Man also declares other man's opinion invalid because reasons. NOPE
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Kylo Ren posted:Prostitution is like drugs. They should be legal, because a consenting adult has a right to sell their body, or smoke/snort/inject drugs. But neither vices contribute anything positive to society, and are very damaging in my opinion. People use drugs to escape reality instead of confronting their own reality and making it something that they want to experience. Men use prostitutes to cheat on their wives, which challenges the integrity of marriage in the US, or they are men who are socially and mental broken to the point where interacting with women or trying to court them will only end in tears. Men who are cheating on their wives should be shamed and penalized. Men who are unable to find a regular mate, should be given therapy, social etiquette class's, and maybe a stipend depending on the severity of their social illness. The only thing that bugs me about this is that women like Lena Dunham pretend to care about trafficking victims, but she really doesn't. The reason women like her, and others despise prostitution is because it takes away men who would otherwise spend money, time, and resources on them in some futile attempt to get laid. Here's one WEIRD trick doctors DON'T want you to know about : the easiest way to keep a married man from cheating is for his wife to put out more. It's pretty ridiculous to say that you can sell your body to a job that'll slowly destroy it over a decade or two (like working in a shipyard, for example, or around carcinogenic chemicals), but not to engage in safe sex, which is harmless and a net positive to society.
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Jul 26, 2015 21:40
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Curdy Lemonstan posted:Sex is very easy to get without paying Sigh!!! I wish people would stop saying this. "Free Sex" is VERY hard to come by for a sizeable portion of men both in the United States and around the world.
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Jul 26, 2015 21:43
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Ocean Book posted:You are obviously 'permitted' to say what you want about someone's opinions. Some grump on an Internet forum saying that dismissing a woman's opinion because of her career is problematic in this instance doesn't mean you aren't 'permitted' to say your end. Oh word? Ocean Book posted:yeah, women and men probably have been treated equally the entirety of human history. Oh word!?!?!?
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Jul 26, 2015 21:46
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Kylo Ren posted:Sigh!!! I wish people would stop saying this. "Free Sex" is VERY hard to come by for a sizeable portion of men both in the United States and around the world. gently caress yes!!!! My jon pop bait post worked!
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Jul 26, 2015 21:48
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Jon Pop, I have a question about the sexual marketplace or whatever it's called: What the gently caress is wrong with you? What specific mental illness do you have that makes you keep buying accounts here to post this poo poo? It's loving weird dude.
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Jul 26, 2015 21:52
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Curdy Lemonstan posted:gently caress yes!!!! My jon pop bait post worked! i'm sincerely really happy for you
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Jul 26, 2015 22:01
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Curdy Lemonstan posted:gently caress yes!!!! My jon pop bait post worked! 
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Funky See Funky Do posted:Jon Pop, I have a question about the sexual marketplace or whatever it's called: What the gently caress is wrong with you? What specific mental illness do you have that makes you keep buying accounts here to post this poo poo? It's loving weird dude. Please distinguish between the figurative sexual marketplace, which is jon pop's greatest enemy, and the literal sexual marketplace, which would eventually find some way to meet his needs for a price.
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Jul 26, 2015 22:10
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wait, wait so a bunch of holy wood celebrities are condemning women for making a living by selling sex? loving lol
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Kumo posted:wait, wait so a bunch of holy wood celebrities are condemning women for making a living by selling sex? it's only good if it keeps you on the tabloid front pages.
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Funky See Funky Do posted:Jon Pop, I have a question about the sexual marketplace or whatever it's called: What the gently caress is wrong with you? What specific mental illness do you have that makes you keep buying accounts here to post this poo poo? It's loving weird dude. Asperger's/High Functioning Autism/OCD. Below average height, black but not "urban" or "swagged out". If I had been introduced to red pill philosophy at a younger age I would not be here now. I would have looks maxed after high school, and realized the importance of a solid social circle. Now it's too late. Every one I grew up with that could be called a friend is entering their careers, married/long term relationshiped with kids. When it's all said and done I spend less money here than the average America guy taking out women on "dates". I know guys that are gamers who spend thousands of dollars on games and merchandise a year and theirs nothing with it because it's their choice. This is my choice. Also notice how men are shamed for spending money on their hobbies, but spending lots of money on a women is "being a gentlemen".
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Probad posted:Please distinguish between the figurative sexual marketplace, which is jon pop's greatest enemy, and the literal sexual marketplace, which would eventually find some way to meet his needs for a price. He routinely pays for sex. So much so that he's got a whole system set up to get the most bang for his buck. You should look for his e/n posts about strippers and craigslist hookers. It's some serial killer poo poo.
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Most prostitutes don't choose to be prostitutes like actresses choose to act. Although I guess you could make a case for actor kids who have stage parents that force them to act, but even that is better than being kidnapped when you are a preteen, brought to whatever country you're oval office is needed and forced to gently caress filthy perverts for the rest of your life.
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