Lady who shows her tits on TV says prostitution is evil

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Curdy Lemonstan: Jan 25, 2012; by zen death robot

Sex is very easy to get without paying

I'm Crap posted:

the dutch system is the largely the same as the new zealand one btw, they just never enforce it unless a property developer needs to acquire a former brothel on the cheap

the swedish system is loving retarded and the worst of all possible worlds but something about it tickles the self-righteousness centers of wishy-washy dickweeds so it'll probably be universally adopted in 20 years, to the detriment of everyone except evil pimps, cops and the ngo-industrial complex

Maybe, but sweden is also highly sexually liberated and feministic so you find yourself sharing payment for dates, not having to buy drinks and just generally having sex without some weird man must pay man must be stronk and have high status-mentality or slut shaming mentality. Feminism is like just awesome for having lots of free, powerbalanced, casual sex i dont get why men feel so emasculated by it.

The funniest thing is seeing american men like roosh who doesnt understand this and is angry as gently caress that he has no success by trying too hard to be the most awesome guy in the room, so he tries even harder next time. if he just stopped trying he would get laid so much since sex isnt some weirdo currency thing.
Be laid back yo.

Also prostitution is wrong and weird and people shouldnt pay for sex or sell for sex, maybe disabled fat guys could get some sort of free pass or something. Strip clubs are also weird and basically all of usa is incredibly weird about sex.

# ¿ Jul 26, 2015 21:21

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Curdy Lemonstan: Jan 25, 2012; by zen death robot

Kylo Ren posted:

Sigh!!! I wish people would stop saying this. "Free Sex" is VERY hard to come by for a sizeable portion of men both in the United States and around the world.

gently caress yes!!!! My jon pop bait post worked!

# ¿ Jul 26, 2015 21:48

Curdy Lemonstan: Jan 25, 2012; by zen death robot

Borneo Jimmy posted:

Way more people are forced into doing garment work or agriculture than sex work, but if you were to suggest banning buying clothes or food to stop that problem you would be considered a maniac.

Shut the gently caress up. This thread is bigger than you now, boy.

# ¿ Jul 26, 2015 22:47

Curdy Lemonstan: Jan 25, 2012; by zen death robot

Dude, bro, its not all in the pussy game. Friends are good for other things than status. Being fit and healthy is good for more things than sex (not that i would know honestly but running feels good and poo poo), money is useful for other things than tittays. Self improvement is great for so many things including getting women, but not only getting women. You have alot to give, soiety, friends, women. Stop the red pill nonsense (but seriously though the west world is racist as gently caress so im not gonna pretend you arent a victim of the system or whatever) and work on your problems, one at a time, not in a rush, no deadline, no pussy-goal, no thundercock aspirations, only for feeling better. Is my recommendation.

# ¿ Jul 26, 2015 23:30

Curdy Lemonstan: Jan 25, 2012; by zen death robot

Bolek posted:

I mean yea forced work and forced sex are pretty much the same thing which is why every system of law ever had a distinction between violent physical assault and sexual assault yea it's just another commodity guys lets be rational about it

Haha yeah i know that guy is the biggest idiot on the planet, using fedora-tier asperger logic to defend that he wants to have sex with prostitutes even though deep down, he knows its pretty drat problematic all around.

# ¿ Jul 26, 2015 23:35

Curdy Lemonstan: Jan 25, 2012; by zen death robot

Borneo Jimmy posted:

Sorry but the majority of sex workers have condemned terrible laws like Sweden's which harm their ability to work safely. The only people who support laws like that are cops, out of touch celebrities and politicians, and the rescue industry.

I could listen to you, but then I remember that you think Lena Dunhams opinions are invalidated because she shows her tits on tv. What I'm saying is that you are a classy gentleman who is not at all a misogynist and is not in anyway highly likely to have a big amount of self interest in the legalization of prostitution, you non-weirdo.

# ¿ Jul 27, 2015 06:41

Curdy Lemonstan: Jan 25, 2012; by zen death robot

Otacon posted:

well i did it, i went and sought out the pictures, and my eyes did not fall from their sockets, my penis did not shrivel up and turn to dust, my face did not melt from my skull

am i a god?

You are a brave man.

Incidentally, why haven't anybody posted pictures of her tits and belly yet???

[Edit] and buttcheeks????

# ¿ Jul 27, 2015 08:21

Curdy Lemonstan: Jan 25, 2012; by zen death robot

monkey posted:

also i only cklicked on this thread cause it said tits in the title. is it a good thread?

It was good for a while when jon pop entered the ring but you guys drowned him out with your white noise posting

# ¿ Jul 27, 2015 15:37

Curdy Lemonstan: Jan 25, 2012; by zen death robot

BottledBodhisvata posted:

Whatever, you weirdo, you're the one talking about how evil paying money for sex is and how your enlightened land of Swedistan is just sooooooooo feminist and progressive and we're savages for suggesting that sex workers should be protected under the law, not punished by it. Oh yes, you're the real hero here, look at all these misogynists, pointing out the hypocrisy of actresses in Hollywood.

lol in sweden women ARE protected by law you dumb fucker. its legal to SELL sex, not BUY it. THATS BECAUSE WOMEN WONT GO TO JAIL FOR SELLING SEX ONLY MEN WHO BUY SEX GO TO JAIL YOU IDIOT

# ¿ Jul 27, 2015 16:24

Curdy Lemonstan: Jan 25, 2012; by zen death robot

Ocean Book posted:

I was thinking about an idea like this, and won't it still result in sex work being done in areas outside of legal protection?

yeah probably. I'm guessing the girls from EE are unaware of this fact too, unfortunately. but women who go to the police are pretty protected and not directly punished by law (mayeb indirectly though).

# ¿ Jul 27, 2015 16:38

Curdy Lemonstan: Jan 25, 2012; by zen death robot

Buschmaki posted:

I think prostitution should be illegal because I read a study saying that the legalization of prostitution just expands the market for illegal prostitution and increases the amount of people trafficked into countries with legal prostitution. I don't see why someone who has exposed their breasts on TV can't have an opinion on this.

you think prostitution is bad? well check your own avatar. thats sex. hypocrite

# ¿ Jul 27, 2015 18:03

Curdy Lemonstan: Jan 25, 2012; by zen death robot

BottledBodhisvata posted:

Wow that's somehow even stupider.

Great industry you got there, where the consumer is prosecuted while the producer gets to collect all the profits. At least if I buy drugs in the U.S. I know that both the dealer and I are liable for punitive punishment. Your system is rear end-backwards. How do you even justify that? Women are special snowflakes who don't deserve to be punished but men are scum who should go to jail for daring to wet their dicks?

Hey wait, what if a woman hires a female prostitute? Is that, like, too sexy to prosecute?

Don't you all have loving assault rifles in your houses

haha okay i get it, i like you

# ¿ Jul 27, 2015 18:06

Curdy Lemonstan: Jan 25, 2012; by zen death robot

some dude bro posted:

Here is why those who advocate for legalized prostitution never get anywhere. They argue from a position of general libertarianism -- all things that don't harm individuals should be legalized etc etc -- instead of arguing for prostitution. This makes general society dismiss these type of libertarian arguments for prostitution the same way society dismisses libertarian arguments for legalized heroin.

Here is what I think is the real politics of prostitution today, as far as America is concerned and why liberals and feminists aren't eager to take up legalized prostitution as a cause.

Before the sexual revolution, people got married relatively early in life and there was no serial monogamy. This system really benefited regular men to the disadvantage of top-tier men and most women, since it prevented top-tier men from taking advantage of their attractiveness/status to serially or simultaneously have relations with a rotating supply of women. The Sexual Revolution upended this. Over the ensuing decades, the Plain Janes of America, who in the previous eras would have been hitched to their male equivalent in the 1 to 10 sex rank, realized that they didn't really need to get hitched so early in life, and that they could spend their best years in terms of looks/beauty having serial relationships with Chad Thundercocks. Once a woman's looks start fading however, she has an "epiphany" and starts the process of lane-changing. Since the Chad Thundercock has so many options, he won't commit to the Plain Jane, so the Plain Jane lane-changes to land a beta-bucks provider , who is her equivalent in the sex rank, and who must work harder to get from her what the Chad Thundercocks got for free.

This system is unfair to the Beta Bucks types of this world. There is a conspiracy in America to keep these beta bucks types sexually deprived so that when women have their "epiphany phase" and realize they can' extend courtship forever to keep riding the cock carousel, they can safely land a Beta Bucks type who will be eager to catch them as these men's sexual deprivation will make them think that, at last, it's their chance.

This arrangement relies on keeping beta bucks types sexually deprived. Imagine if the beta bucks types had access to tolerated and unrestricted prostitution -- that would have an immense impact on the behavior of modern women with regards to delaying marriage and riding the cock-carousel of Chad Thundercocks.

This is why liberals and feminists aren't eager about legalizing prostitution.

why are you on a new account? your old one hasnt even been banned yet???

# ¿ Jul 27, 2015 18:12

Curdy Lemonstan: Jan 25, 2012; by zen death robot

BottledBodhisvata posted:

Is anyone going to explain why? I'm now genuinely confused. Best I can tell, this seems to be a means of legally starving the sex industry by only prosecuting the consumer base, but that seems stupid if so. It would be better for everyone if it was legal for both parties to engage in. It's certainly unfair.

wait, you were serious???? you really think sweden, one of the most gun-controlled parts of the world, is full of assault rifles? you equalize womens bodies to commodities in a market? you cant see any kind of context at all what so ever? i cant even...

Buschmaki posted:

Lol I thought you were trolling and was iust shitposting in response, if those are your actual views then... lol, just lol.

me too, yeah im out of words.

# ¿ Jul 27, 2015 18:47

Curdy Lemonstan: Jan 25, 2012; by zen death robot

afeelgoodpoop posted:

you see this article on a study? http://www.bustle.com/articles/83353-why-rejection-from-an-attractive-man-makes-women-mean-to-less-attractive-men-because-hell-hath

and then read this post:

http://www.bustle.com/articles/76857-funny-men-give-women-more-orgasms-says-new-study-as-if-you-needed-another-reason-to

# ¿ Jul 27, 2015 19:01

Curdy Lemonstan: Jan 25, 2012; by zen death robot

BottledBodhisvata posted:

Oh yeah, that's the one. Sorry, I get them confused sometimes. White people all look the same.

I'd argue you haven't really tried. I don't know what you mean by the "equalize womens bodies" bit, but if you are saying that I would consider the seller and the consumer of a product sharing a relatively equal partnership in a business transaction and it is baffling that one side of that exchange would be considered criminal while the other side would be allowed to operate impunity, then yes, that's what I'm saying.

I'm not sure what context I'm missing here. Also, you are aware that male prostitutes exist, yes? It's not a gender-specific profession.

THE LAW IS NOT GENDER BIASED YOU loving RETARD. ITS NOT ILLEGAL TO SELL SEX FOR ANY GENDER, PERIOD.

The law might seem dumb for a rational libertard like you, but its there because of [SOMETHING], you cant just retreat back into your ideals of a free market and a rational exchange, women are getting hurt, womens bodies are being sold, trafficking, slavery, that loving PROBLEMATIC. NO, swedish laws are not necessarily the Best and One True Way to go about things, but the reason its legal to sell sex, is that maybe, just maybe, if some woman who was brought into sex working against her will, WHICH I GUESS NEVER HAPPENS IN AMERICA, then maybe they find out about this law, and then they maybe actually dont like sex working very much, and then they maybe go to the police to seek shelter. and if they then DO seek shelter, they ARENT thrown into jail, they are PROTECTED.

The law might seem reaaaalllyyy stupid to you, but if you look at CONTEXT, then heck, you might even learn something!

THIS DOESNT MEAN PROSTITUTION IS LEGAL AT ALL, IT JUST MEANS THAT WOMEN, who in general are victims of human traffick, and are the ones who sell sex, maybe against their will, maybe not, have just one more little glimpse of hope that they can get out of that lifestyle, and if they dont want to get out of that lifestyle, they will probably be able to continue selling sex as long as they are discrete

but nevermind its rational actors, I SPEND MY MONEY AND THATS THAT, and I MAKE MY CHOICES IN A CONTEXTLESS VACUUM AND SO DOES EVERYBODY ELSE all the way down.

this is the reason everybody thinks you are a loving retard. you act butthurt over a law designed to protect victims of the sex trade. and that makes you a very pathetic man. incidentally, your posting is also the answer to the thread "why do europeans hate americans so much?", because that special kind of american libertards, you dont find them anywhere else.

# ¿ Jul 27, 2015 19:39

Curdy Lemonstan: Jan 25, 2012; by zen death robot

Germstore posted:

u mad

i actualy typed up a patriotic explanation about all of sweden in my fury but settled for this. im very mad actually. i guess i lost or whatever. gently caress this guy BottledBodhisvata, he's worse than jon pop

# ¿ Jul 27, 2015 19:42

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 21:39

Curdy Lemonstan: Jan 25, 2012; by zen death robot

BottledBodhisvata posted:

You'd solve all these problems by legalizing and regulating prostitution. Creating brothels would allow for safe, hygenic places for sex to occur, with background checks required to ensure that sex slaves aren't being passed into circulation. There, easy.

See above. The law does seem really stupid to me, hth. It's as much of a stopgap as the current American laws are, really. But perhaps you've just failed to explain it particularly clearly?

I'm...acting butthurt? Like, okay, if you say so? You're the one screaming and flailing and carrying on. Like, you think I'm some sort of libertarian, that's kind of funny, really. I'm not, of due note, although I do think that certain aspects of American society could stand to adopt a few libertarian ideals. I'm a socialist, if anything.

Stop being a nationalistic wingnut you weirdo.

This sounds silly, so I'm assuming you're joking.

Sure legalizing prostitution solves everything forever, like in Holland, poof trafficking gone. anyway I dont think this discussion will change anything on a grand scale and I've taken out my daily frustrations on you now so ill be chlling. but continue to not even research other countries with different solutions to the trafficking problems and just repeat your opinion over and over.

# ¿ Jul 27, 2015 19:58

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