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Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Way of the Samurai 4

Joe Gillian posted:

I made a Champloo mod, too. This is a total rescore:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnwSJIXLLZY

This is a game about you, a samurai, you walk into a city muddled with turmoil. 3 Factions wage war for the city, the empire, some rebel dudes, and some foppish brits. There is a woman named Melinda Megamelons (boobs big for the baka gaijin gueido.) You jump kick your way to victory. If you've clicked this thread, you probably already know this game is extremely anime, if not.


This game is extremely anime

Alright, I want to play, what are some tips.

Here is some poo poo I copy pasted from the "before I play" wiki. I have not read this at all. There is also some personal wisdom from threads and GameFaqs

- There's no way to increase your max life or vitality. Because of this, it's quite possible to get one-shot on Hard difficulty and up. Counteract it with defensive abilities or items: most styles have a 'all attacks reduced by x%' move you can learn, and you should always be carrying around lots of Medicine (bought from the medicine shop on Great crime rate on the 4th day or later) which is an auto-revive. Alternatively, you can tote around a Fortune x 3 sword, but making swords of that calibre isn't really doable on your first run.

-If you look at the lower left corner of your screen you'll see 2 bars: 1 purple, 1 green. The green bar is your life, if this runs out you die. The purple bar is new to WotS4 its vitality, and a few things affect it.

-1st when you're injured the life bar is restored after a few seconds of not attacking/ being attacked at the cost of vitality, so as you can imagine having 0 vitality in a battle is a bad thing. Vitality can also be depleted by spamming powerful attacks (moves that use triangle mainly) as well as quick traveling costs 100 vitality each time you travel. Some styles have an ability to reduce vitality costs, including quick travel.

-Now the big question: How to keep vitality up? Eating and sleep restore a lot, you can sleep outside on marked locations as well as in the inn on Main Plaza.

- What you should make on your first run, and keep with you forever, is a Life+Death sword. Enter the smith's shop repeatedly until you have a blade, a guard, and a grip with Life+Death runes on them, then craft that sword. The charms have to be in the right position so that they make a line when the three parts are put together. This'll net you a sword that regenerates Vitality - not enough to really use in combat, but it'll save you a ton of food and inn fees.In the town area is the Smith, for a fee he can make the sword stronger or more durable. So to get some upgrades we need some cash. If you speak to the random people walking around they can give you jobs to get the cash you need. Upgrade the durability once if you want (it does help) but what we want to get to right away is 50-75 attack, enough to stand a chance against the named characters.

-After getting that initial sword, check the events under journal then events. This shows the flow chart, following this you can on your own get many of the games endings without any difficulty.

- If you get a Blank Book from the casino you can bring it to the dojo and make your own style. This will let you pull together three different stances and any combination of moves and abilities you know from those stances into one style, so it's definitely in your best interests to unlock as many moves as you can.

- When you start you're already in the middle of an event, events happen in certain areas and at certain times of day. What and when can be easily figured out by going into the menu, selecting journal then events. This shows a flow chart of all the events, including where you're at so you can figure out what to do next for the faction you're working for.

- The event tree is simpler than it looks. It's divided into three main trees, the nationalists, the British consulate, and the Empire. By and large, there's nothing to lock you out of those paths until you get into minor requirements that determine whether you're on the 'good' or 'bad' path for that faction. There's also the true ending path, which is well hidden and almost completely separate.

- Several events in Day 2 determine whether three facilities are open or closed, and this carries over between games. Most importantly: if the Language School is closed, you can't understand random British people, and if the Casino is closed, you can't use it to gamble. Generally the faction-specific paths don't really care if something's already opened or closed, they'll just slightly change their mission to cope, but it's very important for the true ending.

- Blacksmith stuff: stat caps are 500 attack, 2000 durability. Raising attack gives between 15 and 50 attack, with a slightly exponential curve - more attack, more attack from forging. Raising durability always gives +500. Save swords if their durability is good (15+), otherwise melt them down with 'Extract'. Collect enough of a type of metal and you can 'Recast' a sword, which spends metal to temper a sword past its durability limit.

-If you want to try fight off other players characters (not controlled by them), at the bottom of the menu under options, is a setting called network settings. Here you can enable it so others can invade your world and your character will invade other worlds.

- There are four people who give non-random sidequests: the Thief in the harbour, the samurai in the magistrate's grounds, the Mistress in town, and Gramps in Little Britain. Completing quests for the Thief or Mistress will lower public order, while the other two will raise it. Public order affects how often you see thugs or constables around town but generally you want it high, because you'll get discounts and more choice in shops.

- It's not obvious, but you have a limit on how many styles you can carry as well as how many weapons and items. Stash ones you're not using in the dojo or else you too will be unable to pick up that style you've been grinding for.

- If you want to end a playthrough early, you've got a couple options. If you've done a lot of events and good sidequests, consider getting yourself killed, because that way you'll earn samurai points for the run. Otherwise, go talk to the boatman in Amihara anytime and he'll offer you a lift.

- Jump kick everyone in the face.

Goon Advice!

RiffRaff1138 posted:

Some further Dojo tips, based on my experiences:

When you tell someone to join your dojo, they consider your offer for a second, then get up and respond in one of two ways: accept, or kick you in the shins and run away. Don't wait to see which it is. As soon as they stand up, jump and press weak attack to kick them in the face. If they accepted, they still will, this won't change their mind. If not, you'll avoid their kick and they'll immediately go back down to their knee.

Every time you go through a map transition, there's a chance a challenger may appear at your dojo. As long as they're there, one student will run up to you to tell you you've been challenged, and then more will run up to tell you if someone has died. As far as I can tell, nobody will actually die until a student reaches you and says they have, so try to avoid your students on the way back. There's also a chance that, again on a transition, your students will kill the challenger themselves. If you successfully complete the sidequest to recruit Sensei to your dojo, she'll take care of it instead, most likely on the very next transition after the challenge. So, if you don't want to deal with a challenger, try just running back and forth between two maps until the challenger dies.

If you do have Sensei and you want to fight a challenger, but she keeps killing them too quickly: Challengers can show up on any map transition. This includes entering or exiting the dojo. Keep going in and out, and eventually one should appear as you enter.

lets hang out posted:

If you're serious about getting all the endings make sure you pick up an unarmed style you're comfortable with.


What if I don't want to kick everyone in the face!

Well there is other stuff to do too! Like...

Fishing!
Sneaking into people's houses!
Fighting invaders!
Thievery!
Gambling!
Punching out the homeless!
Other Stuff!


:siren::siren:THIS OP loving SUCKS!:siren::siren:

I know it does, but I'll be putting interesting stuff from goons into the OP so eventually we'll have a pretty good knowledge base.

Abu Dave posted:



can't wait ot play this :getin:

ShadowMar posted:

Here's some of my screenshots.







Not the most amazing port but it's better than the PS3 version where most of the fights ran at 10 FPS.

Emong posted:



You might want to consider swapping out one of your swords there, friend.

Turtlicious fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Aug 1, 2015

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Vlaada Chvatil
Sep 23, 2014

Bunny bunny moose moose
College Slice
I jump kicked a harlot and she joined my
dojo. 5/5 will play again.

Empress Brosephine
Mar 31, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


can't wait ot play this :getin:

Internet Friend
Jan 1, 2001

Fun thing I discovered looking around the game files: it runs on Gamebryo. If someone cared to update the NIF tools for it this could be modded into even more of a nightmare world than it already is.

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

If you're serious about getting all the endings make sure you pick up an unarmed style you're comfortable with.

Jamfrost
Jul 20, 2013

I'm too busy thinkin' about my baby. Oh I ain't got time for nothin' else.
Slime TrainerS
I'm just here for the screenshots.

cheesetriangles
Jan 5, 2011





Earlier when I was trying to get a [any] [big shot] [big shot] guard from the smith I saw 3 different guards that were all 3x the same charm in about a 20 minute time spawn. That seems so god drat unlikely. After about 2 hours it never gave me the big shot charm I wanted. :negative:

ShadowMar
Mar 2, 2010

HERE IS A
GRAVEYARD
OF YOU!


Here's some of my screenshots.







Not the most amazing port but it's better than the PS3 version where most of the fights ran at 10 FPS.

Edit: You should mention in the tips about fighting off other player's characters that there's no invasions on the PC version, you can only fight your previous characters.

ShadowMar fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Jul 30, 2015

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015


cheesetriangles
Jan 5, 2011





If you aren't using the Samurai Champloo soundtrack mod that was posted on Steam forums you hosed up.

VolticSurge
Jul 23, 2013

Just your friendly neighborhood photobomb raptor.



cheesetriangles posted:

If you aren't using the Samurai Champloo soundtrack mod that was posted on Steam forums you hosed up.

Couldn't find that when I looked ,but I did find a retard named "Sir Walrus" calling the game a "scam".

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

cheesetriangles posted:

If you aren't using the Samurai Champloo soundtrack mod that was posted on Steam forums you hosed up.

post link for OP

cheesetriangles
Jan 5, 2011





It's kinda :filez: so I'm not gonna post it.

Cool Kids Club Soda
Aug 20, 2010
😎❄️🌃🥤🧋🍹👌💯
So which of the DLC is worth my hard-earned Steambux?

fake edit : it took me about 15 seconds to find the Samurai Champloo music mod

ShadowMar
Mar 2, 2010

HERE IS A
GRAVEYARD
OF YOU!


CaptCommy
Aug 13, 2012

The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a goat.

Cool Kids Club Soda posted:

So which of the DLC is worth my hard-earned Steambux?

fake edit : it took me about 15 seconds to find the Samurai Champloo music mod

Here's a video of the mod that helped me out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuSBk_MpoNk

Emong
May 31, 2011

perpair to be annihilated


Cool Kids Club Soda posted:

So which of the DLC is worth my hard-earned Steambux?

fake edit : it took me about 15 seconds to find the Samurai Champloo music mod

The Ryoma Sakamoto, Shinsengumi, and Where Are They Now? DLCs are the ones that add new missions. I've heard the Shinengumi one is the best, but I haven't actually played any of them yet.

ShadowMar
Mar 2, 2010

HERE IS A
GRAVEYARD
OF YOU!


Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit

College Slice

Emong posted:

The Ryoma Sakamoto, Shinsengumi, and Where Are They Now? DLCs are the ones that add new missions. I've heard the Shinengumi one is the best, but I haven't actually played any of them yet.

Shinsengumi and Where both add some new clothes and accessories and two missions each. Shinsengumi tasks you with killing two hardcore dudes who will drop their sweet swords and they can also drop high-quality scrolls. Where tasks you with basically saving a dude (But you can also kill him for his sweet sword but it fails the mission; you can go back and retry in the same run of the game though) and then killing someone and you'll get her pretty good sword for that as well as associated clothes and such. Where lets you unlock female characters very quickly because of that.

Cool Kids Club Soda
Aug 20, 2010
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Cool, good to know. I don't really care about more missions, I just want to play dress-up with my samurai dolls action figures

Emong
May 31, 2011

perpair to be annihilated


On the topic of DLC, some people got pissy that the game didn't come with all of the DLC (the preorder description said "Bonus DLC", and they took it to mean it would be free), and they whined about it enough that everyone who bought the game in the first two weeks got Flame Over (a game by the developers that did the port) for free.

Unrelatedly: The basic light attacks in the default Dual Wield style are a Time Warp reference and I'm not sure how to feel about that.

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit

College Slice
I didn't get Flame Over. I guess because Ghostlight let the beta testers have it for free instead of us buying it.

Anonymous Robot
Jun 1, 2007

Lost his leg in Robo War I
Last time I got a dojo challenge I dallied a little on my way there and my guys started getting killed. This time I went there straightaway and it's just business as usual. I went out and did a short sidequest, came back, still nothing. Am I supposed to wait around for the challenger to arrive?

Serril
Dec 31, 2007

Mort Fun Time
Sometimes your students can fight the challenger off themselves, though I thought a little message would appear if they managed to do so. If the challenger isn't in the dojo when you get there then everything's fine.

Anonymous Robot
Jun 1, 2007

Lost his leg in Robo War I
What are skill points for?

RadicalR
Jan 20, 2008

"Businessmen are the symbol of a free society
---
the symbol of America."

Anonymous Robot posted:

What are skill points for?

You can usually buy a Blank Book. The points are used to create your own style.

Random Hajile
Aug 25, 2003

Serril posted:

Sometimes your students can fight the challenger off themselves, though I thought a little message would appear if they managed to do so. If the challenger isn't in the dojo when you get there then everything's fine.
There's also a sidequest to get an assistant instructor who will drive off most challengers. Like getting the replacement smith, if you complete the sidequest, it carries over between playthroughs unless you murder them or run them off.

Danith
May 20, 2006
I've lurked here for years

Turtlicious posted:



-If you want to try fight off other players characters (not controlled by them), at the bottom of the menu under options, is a setting called network settings. Here you can enable it so others can invade your world and your character will invade other worlds.


I'm not seeing it on the PC version. Did they take it out?

RadicalR
Jan 20, 2008

"Businessmen are the symbol of a free society
---
the symbol of America."

Danith posted:

I'm not seeing it on the PC version. Did they take it out?

PC version doesn't have it, that's exclusive to PS3.

overeager overeater
Oct 16, 2011

"The cosmonauts were transfixed with wonderment as the sun set - over the Earth - there lucklessly, untethered Comrade Todd on fire."



Making dorky samurai is way more fun than it has any right to be.



toot toot

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit

College Slice

RadicalR posted:

PC version doesn't have it, that's exclusive to PS3.

Yeah, Ghostlight ended up having trouble making it work and removed it.

Tallgeese
May 11, 2008

MAKE LOVE, NOT WAR


Lord knows it would have been a hacked sword crash-fest anyway.

void_serfer
Jan 13, 2012

I made a Champloo mod, too. This is a total rescore:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnwSJIXLLZY

void_serfer fucked around with this message at 12:02 on Jul 30, 2015

Cool Kids Club Soda
Aug 20, 2010
😎❄️🌃🥤🧋🍹👌💯
Your video does a lot better job of selling the mod than the one I found on the Steam forums. Are there any real differences between the two, and is there any way that a fella can get hooked up?

void_serfer
Jan 13, 2012

Cool Kids Club Soda posted:

Your video does a lot better job of selling the mod than the one I found on the Steam forums. Are there any real differences between the two, and is there any way that a fella can get hooked up?

Mine is a total overhaul, replacing all of the music with tracks from Nujabes, Fat Jon, etc. I first made this because I found that the Steam forums' mod still left a lot of the default game music, so I went and made my own with fitting moods. You can get the mod on the video's page.

Cool Kids Club Soda
Aug 20, 2010
😎❄️🌃🥤🧋🍹👌💯

Joe Gillian posted:

Mine is a total overhaul, replacing all of the music with tracks from Nujabes, Fat Jon, etc. I first made this because I found that the Steam forums' mod still left a lot of the default game music, so I went and made my own with fitting moods. You can get the mod on the video's page.

Oh word, that's awesome. That'll teach me to almost never click on the 'Show More' tab on Youtube videos. You do good work, man. I couldn't believe how hyped I was by the idea of the mod, but yours takes it to the next level.

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum
Any hope for Way of the Samurai 3 coming to PC?

Vlaada Chvatil
Sep 23, 2014

Bunny bunny moose moose
College Slice
During Occupy Western Hospital on Day 2, is there any way to avoid killing Dojima? I beat him up with a reverse blade, but when he wouldn't kneel, I assumed it was like fighting Akagi where he would admit defeat and leave when he fell to zero health. It turns out that when you kill Dojima outside the hospital he just regular-style dies! Was I supposed to convince him to become the new blacksmith before that point, or is that just an unavoidable ramification of trying to get close to top-tier waifu Melinda Megamelons?

Saint Freak
Apr 16, 2007

Regretting is an insult to oneself
Buglord
I am a young Japanese lady apparently named "Mr. Samurai" and I am the most feared shinkicker this side of the Pacific.


I almost picked up a weapon once but everytime I get close the game is like 'LOL CUTSCENE INSTEAD'

Saint Freak fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Jul 30, 2015

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Random Hajile
Aug 25, 2003

Vlaada Chvatil posted:

During Occupy Western Hospital on Day 2, is there any way to avoid killing Dojima? I beat him up with a reverse blade, but when he wouldn't kneel, I assumed it was like fighting Akagi where he would admit defeat and leave when he fell to zero health. It turns out that when you kill Dojima outside the hospital he just regular-style dies! Was I supposed to convince him to become the new blacksmith before that point, or is that just an unavoidable ramification of trying to get close to top-tier waifu Melinda Megamelons?

I didn't fight him when I did that mission, so yeah, I assume that you want him as a blacksmith before that point so some other chump will sign up to die there instead.

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