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This episode was amazing and I love how visceral it is whenever Emily brutally beats grown men up and I'm sad to see her stuffed in a fridge when giving her a powersuit like Kiera has (don't they have one spare somewhere?) would solve the problem of her getting ambushed. As for Kiera, the problem is plot. The rug being pulled from under them means they have to back track some of her development to introduce a tried and true inner conflict (whose notes they know well) because they lack the time to develop another one. In universe though, I think the holo-dream she had can be handwaved as being real enough to her (legitly thinking she's back in her own time) that it destroyed the progress she made with the help of Gaeta.
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We were ALREADY shown that there are multiple timelines being tracked in season 3. She can probably get back to her home timeline via one of the more-advanced time travel devices.
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Sep 18, 2015 03:12
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Apoplexy posted:We were ALREADY shown that there are multiple timelines being tracked in season 3. She can probably get back to her home timeline via one of the more-advanced time travel devices. Possibly but as I pointed out earlier (or in the last thread?) we have yet to see anyone in this series actually travel forward in time.
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Sep 18, 2015 03:16
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That's for the finale. Hell, it seems like it should be EASIER to travel forward instead of back.
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Sep 18, 2015 03:34
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Apoplexy posted:That's for the finale. Hell, it seems like it should be EASIER to travel forward instead of back. I dunno, look how much effort it took for them to send Kiera over to the new timeline.
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Sep 18, 2015 03:42
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Wouldn't she just have to make another kid in the future? We've established already that the person time traveling doesn't just switch brains, it's a new physical copy. She'd have to steal the not her child to be with him again. That's if it's not a frog cause they hosed up time a lot already.
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Sep 18, 2015 05:11
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Invalid Validation posted:Wouldn't she just have to make another kid in the future? We've established already that the person time traveling doesn't just switch brains, it's a new physical copy. She'd have to steal the not her child to be with him again. That's if it's not a frog cause they hosed up time a lot already. The theory is that if Kiera's original timeline still exists, she could step back in seamlessly. But if it doesn't there would indeed already be a Kiera there and we don't know if she'd be willing to murder herself just to get her son (and husband I guess) back. That is assuming that they can figure out how to access the alternate timelines, Alec seems to think it's possible. There's a lot to do in 4 episodes.
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Sep 18, 2015 05:32
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Rhyno posted:The theory is that if Kiera's original timeline still exists, she could step back in seamlessly. But if it doesn't there would indeed already be a Kiera there and we don't know if she'd be willing to murder herself just to get her son (and husband I guess) back. Could jump forward to just after she was sent back, no self murder needed!
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Sep 18, 2015 05:50
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JossiRossi posted:Could jump forward to just after she was sent back, no self murder needed! It looked like that might happen once previously. But not every timeline is going to involve her traveling back in time, that's the problem. She might show up to a future where she got sick the day of the execution.
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Sep 18, 2015 05:52
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Rhyno posted:But if it doesn't there would indeed already be a Kiera there and we don't know if she'd be willing to murder herself just to get her son (and husband I guess) back. We totally know and the answer is yes. She's like the most depraved, selfish person on the show and it owns because of it.
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Sep 18, 2015 08:41
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Here comes a new episode, just a few more hours! I rarely get this excited about TV shows any more.
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Sep 18, 2015 23:42
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Apoplexy posted:Here comes a new episode, just a few more hours! I rarely get this excited about TV shows any more.   
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Sep 19, 2015 01:47
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Literally this for every episode of this season. It has to be, so it is. The opening already rules. So do the new digs on Garza. Apoplexy fucked around with this message at 03:38 on Sep 19, 2015 |
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Sep 19, 2015 03:21
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Hahah Kiera you are selfish as gently caress. Lucas died so you might be able to return home if the device works. Garza should've just shot you in the face afterwards. 
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Sep 19, 2015 05:51
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I'm just surprised they capped the leader of the Future Soldiers already. That's quick turn-over of new characters. Also, remembering the second CPS suit was an awesome example of why this show rules.
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Sep 19, 2015 06:39
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Apoplexy posted:I'm just surprised they capped the leader of the Future Soldiers already. That's quick turn-over of new characters. Also, remembering the second CPS suit was an awesome example of why this show rules. There's 3 episodes left. That was about as developed as we can expect a new guy to be. And there's a third CPS suit somewhere still isn't there?
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Sep 19, 2015 06:53
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Rhyno posted:And there's a third CPS suit somewhere still isn't there? Elena's suit, right? The one Travis stole during the aborted timeline from the end of Season 2. I can't remember what happened to that one.
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Sep 19, 2015 07:00
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Open Source Idiom posted:Elena's suit, right? The one Travis stole during the aborted timeline from the end of Season 2. I can't remember what happened to that one. Presumably wherever it was prior to Travis taking it.
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Sep 19, 2015 07:05
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In the aborted timeline, Travis got let into Alec's lab and stole it. In the new one, Alec hid the suit and, presumably at the same time or near after, Dead Kiera's suit as well. There SHOULD be a third suit somewhere, as such, but I think this is the best we're getting.
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Sep 19, 2015 08:05
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Man, don't tease me by showing the power armour and then not having Garza hop in it to break them out. Poor Lucas, I feel it's all about to come home now that we're on the final stretch.
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Sep 19, 2015 11:00
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Theory: They will end the series by killing Kiera and leaving every thread unresolved. In interview, the head writer, while frequently rubbing his nose, will say, "In life, nothing is ever settled, nothing ever really resolved. Things just gradually emerge: plans are interrupted, things go wrong, loose ends are left hanging. *sniffle*" Accretionist fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Sep 19, 2015 |
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Sep 19, 2015 11:09
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Accretionist posted:Theory: They will end the series by killing Kiera and leaving every thread unresolved. As long as it ends with Garza ripping out Kiera's spine, all good.
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Sep 19, 2015 19:34
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Kiera is now playing Future-Present Kellog against Alternate-Future Kellog. Which is pretty perfect and probably is A-F Kellog's plan. Why fix the past when he can go back and take it for himself.
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Sep 19, 2015 21:11
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Accretionist posted:Theory: They will end the series by killing Kiera and leaving every thread unresolved. The traveller kills Kiera. It is never revealed who he is or what he wants. 
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Sep 19, 2015 21:32
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:The traveller kills Kiera. YES. Farscape the gently caress out of this finale.
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Sep 19, 2015 22:08
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Crazy theory (not at all serious): the traveller is Keira's son who is doing all this so his mom will be home for his 15th birthday. I liked Julian and Lucas together, especially when they were giving Alec a hard time, and it's a shame that it didn't happen more, and now it's done.  I thought it was a nice touch that Keira was the one who told all the former Liber8 members about Lucas. Garza is the best. 
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I don't know if I could take another full season, they have no more ideas left for the show and Kellog is a bad villain. It's just going to end with the same future that season one started with.
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Sep 20, 2015 03:23
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I think the last few episodes have been amazing, personally.
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Sep 20, 2015 03:59
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Apoplexy posted:I think the last few episodes have been amazing, personally.
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Sep 20, 2015 10:37
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Apoplexy posted:I think the last few episodes have been amazing, personally. Pretty much this. I can see hints of what would have happened in future seasons if they'd had them.
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Sep 20, 2015 11:59
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I just think its a lot of rehashed mush personally, but I wouldn't call it bad or anything. And does Kiera ever manage to finish a mission in stealth without getting revealed?
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Wasn't there something at some point about Keira's husband being in-on her getting sent back, or whatever? Did anything ever come of that?
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Brock Samson posted:Wasn't there something at some point about Keira's husband being in-on her getting sent back, or whatever? Did anything ever come of that? He worked on the device in question and had some idea something was up (Kiera losing her memories regarding the case, then Kiera's last minute station change) and seemingly got promoted oddly quickly to working closely with Alec Saddler. However there isn't anything to suggest he was a knowing accomplice. The tragedy this episode was Kiera deciding to go in and blow up the place despite originally wanting only recon; it's all in character for her but it's so tragic. Had she agreed to pull out at the first oppurtunity Garza would've come along and Lucas would be alive AND Alec would've figured out it was an anti matter system. Kiera's recklessness ruins everything for herself again. Raenir Salazar fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Sep 20, 2015 |
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Pikehead posted:Pretty much this. I can see hints of what would have happened in future seasons if they'd had them. I think the episodes have been great so far. I'm trying to think of each plot thread in the context of a normal show or season length. for example in most shows: Theaseus trying to run away from his future only to embrace it, and try and change it would be an entire seasons character arc for some shows. The reveal that the super soldiers are building a time machine would probably have been a penultimate episode reveal, after a seasons worth of the bad guys getting away and hints at what they are doing, all wrapped around a standard cop procedural. Lucas bonding with Alec, and then dying tragically by listening to his would probably have been at least half a season to make his death even more impactful. I am sure there are lots of others in the last 3 episodes I am not remembering right now but each plot thread on a normal cop show would be stretched to its limits. Having the countdown to the finale allows them to blow past the fluff.
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I don't think the show would have had that take any longer than half a season. Continuum wasn't ever a show slow, just deliberately paced. For instance, I do think the season could have benefited from slightly more time on Lucas, Theseus, Brad and the other future soldiers (I really love where they're going with Kyra Zgorsky as the anti-Kira though). Plus, there's been precious little fall-out from Sonya's death. Plus, I'd just like to have a chance to spend more time with the characters that I've enjoyed for the last few years. It's a good cast, all up. No weak links.
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Open Source Idiom posted:I don't think the show would have had that take any longer than half a season. Continuum wasn't ever a show slow, just deliberately paced. I see your point. I don't think continuum could have been a 7 to 10 season show, but I do think an extra season or two would have worked well. I do think the characters are written well, and the special effects look good too. I'm cautiously excited for the upcoming episodes.
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"Her. I found her Instagram account. Really loves cat videos."
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Future Kellogg plotting to gently caress his younger self is hilarious. So Old Alec sent Kiera back, but only because young Alec told him to. But he only knows about any of this because Old Alec sent Kiera back. So, the Traveler comes from a totally different timeline I'm assuming or he would have known about this. From the ending I'm guessing this is going to go horribly wrong. Brad and crew are bringing their survivors back, and prepping the stuff it would take to get them back to health. But those are the same things that you'd need to bring in an army but I don't recall them at any point ever mentioning weapons. Then again they apparently have power armor so they may not need weapons. From last season Brad said they have all the tools to destroy life but none to sustain it. I have the sneaking suspicion that what they told Brad was bullshit to placate him. They sent one guy back to change things but it wasn't enough. Now they could be sending everyone to get a jump on whoever the enemy is in Brad's future. This is going to be a catastrophe and I really hope there isn't a reset button at the end of all this. I'm not sure I'll ever be able to wrap this and it's probably better that they don't dig too much into the traveler or my head will loving explode taking all of Vancouver with it.
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HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:I'm not sure I'll ever be able to wrap this and it's probably better that they don't dig too much into the traveler or my head will loving explode taking all of Vancouver with it. The Traveler is Kiera's kid, obviously.
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