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Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

Safety not Guaranteed is one that wasn't exactly advertised in a misleading way, since it was advertised as a quirky indie romantic dramedy. But the only reason anyone even knew about Safety Not Guaranteed to begin with was the YTMND ad that popularized it, and I always thought it was disappointing that they obviously used the publicity for that to shoehorn in an unrelated script.

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K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.

Chairman Capone posted:

Safety not Guaranteed is one that wasn't exactly advertised in a misleading way, since it was advertised as a quirky indie romantic dramedy. But the only reason anyone even knew about Safety Not Guaranteed to begin with was the YTMND ad that popularized it, and I always thought it was disappointing that they obviously used the publicity for that to shoehorn in an unrelated script.

It's the opposite. The story that was built around the ad just wasn't interesting at all. It was just more conventional indie teen nihilism. Like, they were trying to find out if they could make a more nihilistic time travel movie than Back to the Future, and they succeeded. It was also dull.

Tusk, on the other hand, is a good example of how you make a film about the Internet without being pandering or nihilistic.

dreadnought
Dec 28, 2006

:rolleyes:
Magic Mike fits this category pretty well. I saw it opening weekend because I heard it was a Boogie Nights-esque small-time crime drama/character study, but, judging by the looks on people's faces leaving the theater, they certainly didn't expect that from it. The trailers definitely played up the softcore porn aspect while ignoring the actual plot of the film.

XXL, on the other hand, was much closer to what I think people expected from the original (but still had some interesting things to say about objectification and feminine sexuality).

Dr_Amazing
Apr 15, 2006

It's a long story

sticklefifer posted:

There were barely any "make an overly complicated device with household objects" gags in MacGruber at all, after having been adapted from a recurring SNL sketch entirely based on that premise.


The premise of the sketches is that he's a really bad MacGyver. Isn't the whole point that he never actually made anything? Every sketch was him trapped in a room failing to defuse a bomb.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

Dr_Amazing posted:

The premise of the sketches is that he's a really bad MacGyver. Isn't the whole point that he never actually made anything? Every sketch was him trapped in a room failing to defuse a bomb.

In the movie he dropped a pretty big dirty bomb in some guy's bathroom.

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost
And what was up with the sex scenes?

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

Gatts posted:

And what was up with the sex scenes?

comedy

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich
MacGruber really undersold the amount of throat-ripping contained in the movie.

Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

Kangra posted:

Taking this in a slightly different direction, I feel like Caché was presented more as a psychological thriller with a mystery underlying it, and throughout the film also hints at some political allegory. But that doesn't really work as the subject of the film, and I'd call it a slight misdirection (even if one could make the claim that the title suggests its themes could be hidden, I don't think it works all that well.)

I've always felt that Haneke sets up a mystery in that film and then criticizes viewers for being more interested in that than the (IMO bland as hell) characters or the political aspects. Can't say I care much for the movie overall, though perhaps I would get more out of the film now that I'm not a teenager.

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

lizardman posted:

Arnold himself scored a big hit the very next year with True Lies so I don't think it was people just not being ready for satirical action comedies. The concept was probably too on-the-nose for a lot of folks and might have looked self-indulgent (the movie practically revolves around what a huge star and icon Arnold Schwarzenegger is).

The planet hollywood joke was very funny and self-depreciating at least. And Stallone's cameo was nice, given their animosity.

I really wanted to see the movie Man of the Year was advertised as.

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

space-man posted:

The coolest thing ever was I missed the first 3 minutes of From Dusk Till Dawn. I turned the tv on one night and it was on. I had no clue what I was watching at all. It was some highway kidnapping movie or something. And then it just went nuts. I remember watching it spiral into insanity and just loving every minute of it. Going in cold was so much fun. I can't imagine why they would give that away in the advertising.

I had the going-in-cold experience with From Dusk, only sneaking between theaters as a teen. Someone I know had a similar experience with Predator on cable, of which I am extremely jealous.

On topic I remember seeing a 60 or 90 second John Carter trailer that was mostly scenes from Earth and dialogue dubbed over Martian scenery that made it seem like some What Dream May Come piece about death and bleak alien exploration. Not a single shot of combat/action scenes. Can't find it on youtube now, though.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
I always felt that the trailers for Million Dollar Baby painted it as a underdog-triumphs-over-the-odds feelgood film. It's not a feelgood film. :smith:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irDGknOu0uY



lizardman posted:

Come to think of it, just how far would a movie have to go where you could actually have a legit case in court for false advertizing?

A guy in New Zealand made an official complaint to the Advertising Standards Authority because the Tom Cruise film Jack Reacher didn't contain a scene of an exploding cliff featured in the trailer. Paramount Pictures offered the guy a refund on his ticket. They weren't all that penitent, claiming it was just business as usual:

quote:

The company defended the trailer, which it said showed at least two other scenes that did not appear in the film itself.

Paramount insisted that it was a "usual and long-standing practice in the film industry that cinema trailers and television advertisements" be produced to promote a film weeks or months before completion of final editing.

"Thus, despite our best intentions, it is always possible that certain scenes appearing in an advertisement or trailer may not appear in the final version of a film," the film studio told the authority in its defence.

It added: "The explosion in question was a single split-second element omitted from a 130-minute long action film."

I'm pretty sure it's the 1/2 second explosion seen at 1:18 in this trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK7y8Ou0VvM



Edit: here's an earlier post about trailer dickery. The first example seems to be one of those examples where they use a scene which is subsequently cut from the movie but the second is a blatant lie created specifically to spice up the trailer.

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

The Jurassic World trailer was the other most recent one I can think of, there was a scene where Chris Pratt convinces Bryce Dallas Howard to smear herself with dino poo poo to cover up the smell of her scented lotion which wasn't in the film:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Cj7yGAnn-4

This article has a bunch more examples of trailer fuckery. This one pissed me off at the time:

In the actual scene there's only one targetting laser, the other 15 were added just to spice up the trailer.

Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 11:28 on Sep 7, 2015

speshl guy
Dec 11, 2012
The James Franco film Anapolis had a pretty misleading trailer featuring battles and exploding naval ships when in reality it was a film about a working class hero attending school and then a weird subplot about boxing that ends up becoming the main focus of the film.

http://youtu.be/vGTwuf_FTsI

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGYcxjywx0o

What you expect going in; Ah, action movie formed around the strife and conflict of the opening days of war for the US including the Pearl Harbor attack and some other events.

What you got; A huge loving three way romance with some action stuff

galagazombie
Oct 31, 2011

A silly little mouse!
I remember Will Smith's Hancock was advertised as a wacky laugh-a-minute romp. When I saw the movie on TV it was some kind of depressing drama. Not that the the jokes were bad, but that there were literally no jokes even attempted. It was legit not a comedy.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

galagazombie posted:

I remember Will Smith's Hancock was advertised as a wacky laugh-a-minute romp. When I saw the movie on TV it was some kind of depressing drama. Not that the the jokes were bad, but that there were literally no jokes even attempted. It was legit not a comedy.

Well he did stick that one guy's head up that other guy's rear end, that was pretty funny. :shrug:

The original script 'Tonight, He Comes' which Hancock was based on was dark as gently caress. The hero character in that goes on a rampage at the end and murders dozens of cops and tries to rape a woman. The script is floating around online if anyone is interested.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


lizardman posted:

I liked it wen they used flamethrowers, too, which made it all the more confusing on first watch when they would flame the Thing to death and then someone else would explode into the Thing even though it made no sense because everyone told me the Thing was a shapeshifting alien creature and definitely not a contagious mutant tumor.

But at least it gave us more opportunities for flamethrowers so yay! (I'm not being sarcastic, seriously, yay!) :flame:

the insinuation in the movie is that when something goes wrong the thing reflexively changes, it appears to have no control over itself when it is under attack or is revealed.


so glad i saw this and matrix without hearing much about either when they came on hbo (when Neo wakes up int he real world i remember thinking what the gently caress is happening)

Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Sep 9, 2015

ghostwritingduck
Aug 26, 2004

"I hope you like waking up at 6 a.m. and having your favorite things destroyed. P.S. Forgive me because I'm cuter than that $50 wire I just ate."

Groovelord Neato posted:

the insinuation in the movie is that when something goes wrong the thing reflexively changes, it appears to have no control over itself when it is under attack or is revealed.


so glad i saw this and matrix without hearing much about either when they came on hbo (when Neo wakes up int he real world i remember thinking what the gently caress is happening)

I don't know if I just got lucky, but I only remember seeing "What is the Matrix?" ads before seeing the movie. It made the whole experience way more mind blowing.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
Yeah I totally scored with the Matrix, I just knew it was a beautiful action film from the trailers and went totally bonkers when I realized it was an HK-influenced cyber mindfuck. Smiling right now thinking about it, that poo poo blew me out the back of the theater.

chessmaster13
Jan 10, 2015

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

Yeah I totally scored with the Matrix, I just knew it was a beautiful action film from the trailers and went totally bonkers when I realized it was an HK-influenced cyber mindfuck. Smiling right now thinking about it, that poo poo blew me out the back of the theater.

I know that feeling! I watched the first and only iteration of the movie. It blew my mind.
Good thing they didn't make sequels and ran it into the ground ...

Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.
The British DVD release of Synecdoche, New York has to be up there for bare-faced deception. How do you try to sell a complex and highly unorthodox movie that largely sunk at the box office? Give it a "The Smash-Hit Comedy of the Year" sticker ...

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010
Chiming in to say that I went into the Matrix blind, and it was one of the best theatre experiences I've had. Then, ten years later, I had the same experience with Inception.

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

Snowman_McK posted:

Chiming in to say that I went into the Matrix blind, and it was one of the best theatre experiences I've had. Then, ten years later, I had the same experience with Inception.

I am never going to watch Inception again because I don't want additional scrutiny to ruin that awesome theatrical experience.

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010

TheScott2K posted:

I am never going to watch Inception again because I don't want additional scrutiny to ruin that awesome theatrical experience.

I'd only seen the first teaser trailer, that made it look equal parts disaster/spy movie, and told you pretty much nothing. I wish more high concept things got made with trailers like that.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Snowman_McK posted:

I'd only seen the first teaser trailer, that made it look equal parts disaster/spy movie, and told you pretty much nothing. I wish more high concept things got made with trailers like that.

I mean if you're just going by first teaser trailer then a lot of stuff does that, eg:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wArmHSPIvlQ

Actually the Pa Kent one is better:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqDKPhG0_lU

computer parts fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Sep 10, 2015

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010

computer parts posted:

I mean if you're just going by first teaser trailer then a lot of stuff does that, eg:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wArmHSPIvlQ

Actually the Pa Kent one is better:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqDKPhG0_lU

True, but it's Superman. Try to construct the life of someone who has never heard of Superman. I don't mean to say that it isn't a good trailer. It is, and is definitely unexpected. It's just not good the same way Inception's is.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


mostly because man of steel is nothing like them trailers.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

Having just seen No Escape, I can't believe that Pierce Brosnan got so underused in an action movie, especially after how prominent he was in the marketing.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Chairman Capone posted:

Having just seen No Escape, I can't believe that Pierce Brosnan got so underused in an action movie, especially after how prominent he was in the marketing.

But he's James Bond! He's a ringer! He does his thing then gets killed.

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



ghostwritingduck posted:

I don't know if I just got lucky, but I only remember seeing "What is the Matrix?" ads before seeing the movie. It made the whole experience way more mind blowing.

I remember seeing those ads, and walking out disappointed because they had ripped off a Doctor Who story "The Deadly Assassin" from 1976. (in part 3, the Doctor battles the agent of an unseen enemy in a computer generated virtual world called The Matrix, where the environment and everything in can be influenced with the power of thought). Plus, I had watched Jackie Chan's "Drunken Master 2" earlier that day, so the fight scenes and stunts in The Matrix left me completely underwhelmed.

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy
Matrix is actually a rip-off of comic series The Invisibles.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

Matrix is actually a rip-off of comic series The Invisibles.

It's an homage.

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

Matrix is actually a rip-off of comic series The Invisibles.

Literally no one cares.

Justin Godscock
Oct 12, 2004

Listen here, funnyman!

Davros1 posted:

I remember seeing those ads, and walking out disappointed because they had ripped off a Doctor Who story "The Deadly Assassin" from 1976. (in part 3, the Doctor battles the agent of an unseen enemy in a computer generated virtual world called The Matrix, where the environment and everything in can be influenced with the power of thought). Plus, I had watched Jackie Chan's "Drunken Master 2" earlier that day, so the fight scenes and stunts in The Matrix left me completely underwhelmed.

Ah, OK, glad we got that settled.

Ape Agitator
Feb 19, 2004

Soylent Green is Monkeys
College Slice
I was overseas at the time so I had a combo of lack of television or movie theatres so I knew I wanted to see it but not much else. It was definitely like a month after release so the theater was nearly empty but it was magical to see a whole lot of scenes completely fresh from anything but a teaser.

Ape Agitator fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Sep 13, 2015

marblize
Sep 6, 2015

JediTalentAgent posted:

Didn't people criticize The Break-Up on release because they were expecting an Old School/40YO Virgin style of comedy and it turned out to be a darker comedy?

Was it actually dark or were romcom crowds just upset that it indeed ended in its namesake?

marblize fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Sep 13, 2015

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




Echoing what the others said, I borrowed From Dusk Till Dawn from a friend, with no DVD case or anything. That genre flip rocketed it to one of the most memorable films I've ever seen. I seriously had no clue that there was a supernatural element at all.

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

Yeah I totally scored with the Matrix, I just knew it was a beautiful action film from the trailers and went totally bonkers when I realized it was an HK-influenced cyber mindfuck. Smiling right now thinking about it, that poo poo blew me out the back of the theater.

There were a lot of advertisements that kind of explained the premise where I was, unfortunately. Seeing that movie with no clue of what it is would be an amazing experience. It'll be interesting to see what the next generation of kids think of that - with the hype subsided does The Matrix hold up? I watched it recently and it's still a great film, but I do wonder how it'll be received in the future. Fun fact: The word 'Internet' is not present in the script.

Groovelord Neato posted:

mostly because man of steel is nothing like them trailers.

I'm sure it's cliche to point out at this stage, but Man Of Steel is most similar to DBZ than anything.


Chairman Capone posted:

Safety not Guaranteed is one that wasn't exactly advertised in a misleading way, since it was advertised as a quirky indie romantic dramedy. But the only reason anyone even knew about Safety Not Guaranteed to begin with was the YTMND ad that popularized it, and I always thought it was disappointing that they obviously used the publicity for that to shoehorn in an unrelated script.

This was really frustrating - the premise / poster implies some amount of time travel / scifi elements. Instead it's a romantic story between a 20-something an an older recluse who loves guns. It's actually pretty creepy in parts - there's next to no chemistry. I also really object to the use of the "SE Asian who can't get laid stereotype". I hated the movie in total.

Mat Cauthon
Jan 2, 2006

The more tragic things get,
the more I feel like laughing.



Snowglobe of Doom posted:

This one pissed me off at the time:

In the actual scene there's only one targetting laser, the other 15 were added just to spice up the trailer.

I wasn't too upset with this fake out, but the advertising for Predators definitely tried to sell it as some crazy balls to the wall melee between humans and the titular alien bounty hunters, rather than the somewhat moody action flick that we got. Still entertaining though.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


marblize posted:

Was it actually dark or were romcom crowds just upset that it indeed ended in its namesake?
It's always disappointing when a Vince Vaughn movie doesn't end with him dying, like for real.

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Dr_Amazing
Apr 15, 2006

It's a long story
The first time I saw the Matrix was during a party with a lot of people moving around and talking. Second time was on a bus during a class trip. It wasn't till the 3rd time that I had any idea what was going on.

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