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Starshark
Dec 22, 2005
Doctor Rope

CommieGIR posted:

What? They bombed a city in the middle of a war?! SHOCKING!

No thought for the civilians killed? Really? Have we become that inured to peoples' pain that we're down to making smart-rear end remarks on internet bulletin boards? What would you say to the survivors if they were in front of you right now?

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Starshark
Dec 22, 2005
Doctor Rope

Junkyard Poodle posted:

Lol, don't start poo poo your country can't finish. It's lovely that your leaders let their ambitions bring you some much pain, but we were not going to let that pain spread to our homeland by any means necessary.

So what if I told you there was a way for the Allies to win the conflict without resorting to killing - or to put it in more realistic terms, resort to killing far fewer - civilians, would you agree to it? Or is the fact that they threw the first punch justification for a free-for-all with as many bodies as you can rack up acceptable?

Just to cut to the chase somewhat, it was the allies who began bombing civilians in WW2 - with dubious justification for their use: http://www.spectator.co.uk/books/9062821/the-bombing-war-by-richard-overy-review/

Starshark fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Aug 7, 2015

Starshark
Dec 22, 2005
Doctor Rope

CommieGIR posted:

Japan knew the terms of their surrender: Unconditional Surrender.

Its not really the Allies problem if they are too busy trying to find a way to wriggle out of the war they started with as much of their material gains left, at the cost of their own people.

You seem to be dodging the question. Could it be you're having difficulty facing up to the morality of the Allies' actions?

Starshark
Dec 22, 2005
Doctor Rope

CommieGIR posted:

Are you implying we did not comply with the Geneva Conventions? Pretty sure the Germans started the indiscriminate bombing thing long before the British and the Americans.

Even if this is true - a point in dispute - do you think the indiscriminate slaughter of civilians is justified because the other side did it first?

Starshark
Dec 22, 2005
Doctor Rope
Google it, newb. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_war_apology_statements_issued_by_Japan

Starshark
Dec 22, 2005
Doctor Rope

BattleMaster posted:

Lol, literally "the Japanese military did bad things so we get a pass to brutalize their civilians"

It was the only way to save TENS OF MILLIONS of lives.

Starshark
Dec 22, 2005
Doctor Rope
"Strategic bombing" used in reference to World War 2 is probably one of the most elegant oxymorons I've ever heard.

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Starshark
Dec 22, 2005
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Nonsense posted:

Death by bombing is certainly instantaneous, versus the literal dissection of Chinese civilians.

Sorry, are you joking or do you really think death by bombing is instantaneous?

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