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A Wizard of Goatse posted:parents are why schools have the dumb policies they do, zero tolerance lets them mete out a punishment that'll hopefully deter some low-level shittiness without invoking a campaign of hatred from helicopter parents convinced their precious baby darling is being officially discriminated against I disagree with this. I think parents would be a lot more willing to let the school do its thing if there were disciplinary options between "nothing" and "suspension/expulsion." Say your kid is being a little poo poo (and odds are they will be at some point) and they get caught at it. Are you going to get upset that they got a detention for starting a fight or doing some other stupid poo poo? Probably not. You might even choose to discipline them at home. However, when the only options available to the school at that point are suspension or expulsion, the parents are rightly going to protest that it's a little bit disproportionate to toss a 7th-grader out of school for something that's spawned largely out of a lack of judgement, poor impulse control and hormones that are basically common in all kids that age. Further, under zero-tolerance, if parents want to fight against having their child suspended or expelled, they have no other option but to deny the event happened entirely, because the facts of the situation make no difference to the punishment according to the policy -- that's the point of zero-tolerance in the first place. Zero-tolerance in schools is no different than mandatory minimums in the criminal justice system, except it can be applied with even less oversight. It's simply bad policy.
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In 7th and 8th grade I took horticulture and environmental science. They were taught by the same teacher who was really great. He had all kinds of animals in the classroom and a greenhouse and finally a large heated outbuilding where they kept birds and rabbits. After my first year I was pretty much the biggest teacher's pet because I goddamn loved animals and would come in and help out at lunch and everything. It was just wonderful. Then winter of 8th grade came around. As I said before the rabbits and birds were kept in a heated outbuilding. The birds were in a largish aviary and the rabbits were in individual wire cages. I come into class on one Monday and the teacher pulls me aside. "I've got bad news little Cyberlord. Some idiot broke into the outbuilding where we keep all of the birds and rabbits. The door was left open all weekend. The birds are fine but all of the rabbits died from the cold." Alright animals die and I can deal with that. I tell him that's terrible. "Yeah, but now I need your help. I need you to take a shovel and go bury all of the rabbits behind the building. I know you're the only person mature enough to do it." I took that as high praise and proceeded to go out and bury six huge freaking rabbits in a shallow mass bunny grave behind the shed. I never told anyone about this until years later when I realized that it's probably against school policy to let a 13 year old bury dead animals on school grounds and the whole situation was kind of hosed up.
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Aug 24, 2015 19:30
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My partner is a primary teacher and she tells me that parents these days never want to acknowledge that their kid is a poo poo. The worst example is where she had a kid in her grade 6 class who would kick her in the shins hard enough to bruise her. When she raised it with his parents they spoke to their child who denied it then flatly told her they didn't believe her. Even when she showed them the bruises. I can't understand how loving ignorant you have to be to sit there telling an adult teacher you believe your child's version of events over what she the loving teacher is telling you. It's no wonder that teachers end up having nervous breakdowns between the lovely kids, lovely parents and ridiculous workload.
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Aug 24, 2015 19:36
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Execu-speak posted:I can't understand how loving ignorant you have to be to sit there telling an adult teacher you believe your child's version of events over what she the loving teacher is telling you. Someone at our customer service office in Georgia has an 8-year-old who called to be taken home, claiming that one of the boys in class cut part of her hair off and the teacher told her that she had to lie about who did it....for whatever reason. This same girl, at the age of 8, has a smartphone, iPad, desktop computer, and laptop. Amazingly the mother was actually suspicious enough to check her daughter's desk and found a pair of scissors, a bit of her hair, and some broken pencils and crayons stuffed in the back. Her daughter immediately confessed to having cut her hair herself, and now they think she may have undiagnosed autism (something that's been common in her family).
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Aug 24, 2015 22:20
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Crystal Geometry posted:So you don't think kids should have free time in school? Free time does not equal unstructured time. Break at my school has teachers actively supervising by floating around constantly, engaging positively with kids, and scanning to see potential trouble spots that they can drift towards, using proximity to dissuade unexpected behaviors.
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The only physical altercation I ever had in school happened in eighth grade. My school separates 7-8 from the high school as well as intermediate school below (4-6). I was, in typical goon fashion, an introverted semi-fat kid who did nerdy poo poo. During homeroom I would play chess with other kids or read. Mostly just kept to myself. I also wore a lot of tye-dye because I thought I liked it. So that didn't exactly help me "blend", but pretty much everyone already knew me and who I was so it never caused issues really. Enter Peter. This kid transferred in from another school. He was that kid who always wore black military-style boots and camo pants. I guess he felt he had something to prove because he would constantly harass and make fun of me without provocation. The teacher noticed and told him repeatedly to stop but couldn't actually do much since he never outright struck me. One day near the end of the year I was doing my usual and trying to ignore this guy (my parents always told me too ignore bullies and they'd go away...) but he ain't having none of it today. In retrospect he was almost certainly itching to fight me all year but I wouldn't respond enough to warrant him "defending his reputation" in front off the other kids. So this time I finally have enough, stand up (I'd recently hit a growth spurt so was 2+ inches taller than him) and just tell him no one is impressed by his jerk-assery and tell him to just leave me alone. This doesn't sit well with him, me calling him out in front of the class so that's good enough for him and he takes a swing at me. I side step him and give him a shove. He trips and hits his face on the radiator, effectively ending his macho attempt at subjugating the portly nerd kid. For the remainder of my public education people thought I was some crazed lunatic and no one really bothered me. On a different note my eighth grade language arts (not quite officially English class) teacher had my parents come in for an impromptu conference and told them it was time I learned "reading want supposed to be fun" because she didn't like the books I was reading (high fantasy genre). My parents were rather taken aback by that so I pretty much had the benefit of the doubt from then on out.
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Aug 25, 2015 13:48
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Crazyeyes posted:On a different note my eighth grade language arts (not quite officially English class) teacher had my parents come in for an impromptu conference and told them it was time I learned "reading want supposed to be fun" because she didn't like the books I was reading (high fantasy genre). My parents were rather taken aback by that so I pretty much had the benefit of the doubt from then on out. lol someone so traumatized by a book they've dedicated their lives to destroying literacy itself
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Aug 25, 2015 14:20
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Riven posted:Free time does not equal unstructured time. Break at my school has teachers actively supervising by floating around constantly, engaging positively with kids, and scanning to see potential trouble spots that they can drift towards, using proximity to dissuade unexpected behaviors. Oh okay. This sounds good and makes sense. I remember teachers using break as a chance to not have to deal with us anymore, which is why I was confused.
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Aug 25, 2015 16:30
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I went to school in a very rural area of the country and I was the most Asian kid in school. Middle school was sort of rough for a while until I decided to fight people for giving me poo poo. I would literally kick someone in the middle of the hall for calling me a racial slur offhand. At first I didn't know how to deal with girls who made fun of me until I saw one girl cry over getting gum in her hair. Guess how easy it is to "accidentally" fling gum into someone's hair? Once I was in highschool I started playing sports and things got a lot better. I did have a lot of residual anger from being bullied and took it out by being kind of a dick to a lot of people. I really regret that.
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Aug 25, 2015 17:59
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Crazyeyes posted:On a different note my eighth grade language arts (not quite officially English class) teacher had my parents come in for an impromptu conference and told them it was time I learned "reading want supposed to be fun" because she didn't like the books I was reading (high fantasy genre). My parents were rather taken aback by that so I pretty much had the benefit of the doubt from then on out. Reminds me a little of something that happened in 7th or 8th grade. I was reading a copy of Romeo & Juliet on the bus that included modern English translations on the opposing page, and a girl who was one of my best friends in elementary school was sitting next to me. She looked over at what I was reading and saw where the book explained some of Mercutio's sex jokes. I didn't notice at first, but when I went to get off the bus I saw that she literally had a thousand-yard stare of horror straight ahead. I even had to push past her to get off because she was locked frozen in shock. The next day, I was held behind on the bus after getting to school and the driver began questioning me about what I was reading, asking if I was showing people porn. She didn't seem to believe me when I told her exactly what I was reading. I think I may have even shown her the book. Nothing came of it because she was just a bus driver, but it permanently ruined any friendship I had with this girl. Turns out after I got off the bus, she had refused to leave and fell into hysterics when the driver tried to get her off. It wasn't until high school that I discovered that she's autistic and had maintained her childlike innocence all the way until she was a teenager. She didn't seem that off to me until we started reaching high school and I realized that her behavior and speech hadn't really changed since she was in elementary school. Looking over at a Shakespearean dirty joke was one of her first exposures to sex and it practically shattered her mind in one fell swoop.
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Aug 25, 2015 18:30
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LOL. Lucky you weren't reading Chaucer the poor girl might have killed herself.
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Aug 26, 2015 01:08
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I was on the wrestling team in middle school. It was about 90% exercise, 10% wrestling; we would run up and down flights of stairs for 20 minutes, both before and after practice. One time someone poo poo their pants during running, and someone else started singing the chorus of "Linger" by The Cranberries, and now I can't smell a fart without hearing that song. This is my strongest memory of those 3 years. Also the science teacher had a pet chinchilla that bit me, that sucked I guess.
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Aug 26, 2015 02:13
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:how are you planning to assess whether your kid is 'truly being bullied', I've seen parents furiously defending their kids for assaulting children years younger with a rock or attempting to burn down the building, you have literally only your kid's version of the story to go by and parenthood involves a certain inherent unwillingness to countenance that you have spawned the Antichrist I wouldn't go into parenting with the attitude of , "my child is always right and never would do anything bad or lie" some parents do. Kids sometimes do bad things and they're almost always terrible liars about it. My issue with zero tolerance is that it's such a once-size-fits-all policy that allows for zero judgement calls or common sense decisions on the part of parents and administrators. A nothing shoving match or slap fight is treated as seriously as assaulting someone with a weapon.
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MoraleHazard posted:I wouldn't go into parenting with the attitude of , "my child is always right and never would do anything bad or lie" some parents do. Kids sometimes do bad things and they're almost always terrible liars about it. My issue with zero tolerance is that it's such a once-size-fits-all policy that allows for zero judgement calls or common sense decisions on the part of parents and administrators. A nothing shoving match or slap fight is treated as seriously as assaulting someone with a weapon. yeah and I'm saying the reason it allows for zero judgement calls is to protect the teachers and administration from the inevitable fallout of making judgement calls. a policy where teachers have a free hand to assess the actual severity and fault of the situation requires first that they have any actual power, and won't lose their job for doing so even correctly. The reigning narrative in most of the country is already that any problems with schools are caused by the teachers being shiftless unionized layabouts who need to be sacked until the schools get better, they've got the job security of McDonalds cashiers without a rigidly defined policy from the top that they can point to when the soccer moms get crabby. it's not like schools are staffed by the literal loving retarded who can't tell the difference between throwing wads of paper at someone and bringing a gun to school, but in the NCLB and Rhee era everyone's started acting like they are and in most cases the schools are ultimately beholden to those people. It doesn't loving matter how great a parent you think you're gonna be, there's thousands of other parents out there who think they're smarter than everyone else too and also have Opinions about how the schools are doing discipline wrong, and their uninformed opinions carry more weight than those of the professionals, that's how we got here. I've seen a more sophisticated disciplinary approach work really well in like private schools that have a waiting list and some clout and can straight-up tell parents to go gently caress themselves if they don't like it, but I've also seen what happens in public schools and have family who have to work there and completely understand why personal judgement is not a viable option there in 2015. You want a better school system that can independently judge bullying issues and teach something that's not on a standardized test and fund cool programs, keep your drat hands off and make sure all the other parents do same. A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 16:49 on Aug 26, 2015 |
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Aug 26, 2015 15:47
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This isn't going to be relevant anymore but I was the new kid in 6th grade. That sucked. I dressed totally different than everyone. Short hair, baggy jeans. Kids used to try to pull my pants down but didn't realize I still wore a belt so that was always awkward. Also 1 of like 6 computer nerds. I just flocked to the group that wasn't social outcasts and wasn't the "cool kids". The "cool kids" tended to be just as socially awkward as the outcasts. Being in the middle was the best as you could relate to both.
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Aug 26, 2015 17:39
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:You want a better school system that can independently judge bullying issues and teach something that's not on a standardized test and fund cool programs, keep your drat hands off and make sure all the other parents do same. I'm not entirely sure what the above sentence means, but if you mean that parents should just trust that administrators and teachers made the right calls, I agree, so long as you're not expecting parents to just to blindly trust them. Teachers and administrators make mistakes too. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on zero tolerance policies.
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Aug 26, 2015 18:51
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Cool thread idea. I was an absolute POS in school, someone threw a sandwich at me so i walked over and punched him right at the base of his jaw. He was a decent guy too, I was just a jackass. Once one of my friends called one of the natives a 'scaboriginal' and then 3 or 4 aboriginals ran over and beat him up. It was pretty funny actually and he definitely deserved it. Another story I remember was our food tech class had a big storage room where we had a few huge 20lb tubs of peanut butter, and one day during a recess two kids decided to break into the room and steal snacks and food and whatever else. One of them was like 'omg i love peanut butter' and ripped open the brand new container and started shoveling it into his mouth. He ended up choking really drat quick as it dried up his mouth and he fainted and the other kid he was with ran and got a teacher and they scooped the PB out and resuscitated him. They both got suspended obviously.
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MoraleHazard posted:I'm not entirely sure what the above sentence means, but if you mean that parents should just trust that administrators and teachers made the right calls, I agree, so long as you're not expecting parents to just to blindly trust them. Teachers and administrators make mistakes too. Pretty much. I don't think zero-tolerance is a great policy either but it is inevitable if everyone's going to be second-guessing and subverting the school administration every step of the way instead of giving them authority to decide what's best for the kids. It's part of the same lowest-common-denominator, one-size-fits-all policymaking as the standardized testing fixation, you've got the whole educational system latching onto whatever official-sounding outside metric they can get to fob off ownership because absolutely everyone who knows nothing and bears no accountability is crushing down on the people who have to actually handle the kids, and there is no winning situation for the teacher who decides to tell parents that yes your child really is a sadistic little poo poo or no we're going to take 10 minutes that could have gone to SAT prep and JV soccer to teach music. Nierbo posted:Cool thread idea. I was an absolute POS in school, someone threw a sandwich at me so i walked over and punched him right at the base of his jaw. He was a decent guy too, I was just a jackass. Once one of my friends called one of the natives a 'scaboriginal' and then 3 or 4 aboriginals ran over and beat him up. It was pretty funny actually and he definitely deserved it. what the gently caress is 'food tech' A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Aug 26, 2015 |
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Food technology. In Australia (don't worry, I don't live in that poo poo country anymore) we had a class that supposedly teaches you how to cook. I think we only actually cooked 3 times total in the year. The rest was theory and safety and stuff.
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Aug 26, 2015 19:15
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ok I guess that doesn't make any less sense than 'home economics' why they can't just call it cooking I dunno
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Aug 26, 2015 19:17
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Nierbo posted:Food technology. In Australia (don't worry, I don't live in that poo poo country anymore) we had a class that supposedly teaches you how to cook. I think we only actually cooked 3 times total in the year. The rest was theory and safety and stuff. We had a similar class in high school. Wasn't called home economics or food tech; don't even remember what it was called any more. We cooked a little more than you guys did, but not a whole lot.
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Aug 26, 2015 19:38
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:ok I guess that doesn't make any less sense than 'home economics' "Cooking" sounds simple and rudimentary. "home economics"/"food technology" sounds smart and sexy. My high school had a class called "culinary basics". Literally first day the teacher walked in and announced that no where in the class curriculum was she actually required to let us cook. Used that as a threat all semester. It was more about nutrition than the skills of cooking itself. We made a few things but it was generally a waste of time as we spent more time watching the teacher crack eggs and talk about brussels sprouts than gaining any real works skills. Thank god I already knew how to cook beforehand. Crazyeyes fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Aug 26, 2015 |
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Aug 26, 2015 19:38
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I'm really glad my parents made me take an actual cooking course at the college here when I was around middle-school age, instead of consigning me to suffer in a lovely home-ec class with garbage, outdated equipment and no one with professional cooking experience.
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Aug 27, 2015 01:07
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I'm just glad my parents could cook, especially given how many grown rear end men I run into so scarred by mom's boiled everything they can't eat anything but pizza and hot wings
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Aug 27, 2015 02:19
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Nierbo posted:Food technology. In Australia (don't worry, I don't live in that poo poo country anymore) we had a class that supposedly teaches you how to cook. I think we only actually cooked 3 times total in the year. The rest was theory and safety and stuff. Wish we'd had that class. The best you could get in the mid-90s was a generic COMPUTORS class for vocational training. The computers ran Windows 2.0 and we were required to learn exciting MS Works tasks like "type a paragraph about your favorite music." So much of what you get in a school in a lovely rural area is just basic skills to get a basic job. Understood, since that's what most of the people in the school were likely heading for (if that), but I wish we'd at least had a basic coding class.
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De Nomolos posted:Wish we'd had that class. My middle school had a few computer classes. The 6th grade class was really basic stuff like typing skills and how to use stuff like Word. There was a computer tech class I took in 8th grade that actually went as far as basic web design, having you follow instructions to build a working webpage.
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De Nomolos posted:Wish we'd had that class. i remember a like fifth grade class where they taught us LOGO, I'm not sure why since probably somewhere south of 1% of those kids ever wound up programming a computer later in life and even then whatever skills were supposed to be instilled there didn't really apply. It's sort of like having a primary school class in horse birthing or airframe design.
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:i remember a like fifth grade class where they taught us LOGO, I'm not sure why since probably somewhere south of 1% of those kids ever wound up programming a computer later in life and even then whatever skills were supposed to be instilled there didn't really apply. It's sort of like having a primary school class in horse birthing or airframe design. In 9th grade I was accepted into a special science and technology class in our state for gifted kids and took Pascal. Wtf. It was this class that convinced me to return to my base high school because they had a music department (as well as friends, I couldn't even bond well with nerds) and I was good at that. Took another 10 years to realize I should have stuck with COMPUTORS.
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Crazyeyes posted:"Cooking" sounds simple and rudimentary. "home economics"/"food technology" sounds smart and sexy. I don't know what the home economics course in my high-school actually taught, but based on the smell perpetually coming from the room I don't think I would actually want to eat anything they made. A kitchen shouldn't smell like burning tires.
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They also offered Pascal at my school, and that was pretty impressive for it's size. Especially since it could have been BASIC at the time.
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Until grade 11 the highest level of technology I saw in the classroom was one of these: I can't imagine the new social challenges with every child being online basically every waking moment, whether through texting or a computer. At least I didn't have to deal with bullies until arriving at school. Waking up every day to a slew of hateful queued texts would be pretty grim.
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Aug 27, 2015 18:11
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I'm apathetic towards a cooking class in school because I doubt it would do much good. When you get down to it, cooking is really pretty easy provided that you have three things. The ability to get good ingredients, the time to do it, and the willingness to eat those good ingredients. I'm pretty sure a public school would fail at all of them. They're not going to get decent meat or fresh produce in any kind of quantity, they're not going to have the time for any recipe that involves decent cooking time, and they're not going to be able to make me willing to eat broccoli(gently caress broccoli). Really, aside from "get a rice cooker and eat a shitload of rice+X", I'm not seeing a ton of really practical ways to do a cooking class effectively.
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Dick Trauma posted:Until grade 11 the highest level of technology I saw in the classroom was one of these: I saw digital projectors starting in 8th grade, I think. Before that it was all overhead projectors that buzzed and blazed hot next to everyone's desks. I don't even know if my high school has upgraded from identical black CRT TVs on a heavy cart, though.
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Khizan posted:I'm apathetic towards a cooking class in school because I doubt it would do much good. When you get down to it, cooking is really pretty easy provided that you have three things. The ability to get good ingredients, the time to do it, and the willingness to eat those good ingredients. I'm pretty sure a public school would fail at all of them. They're not going to get decent meat or fresh produce in any kind of quantity, they're not going to have the time for any recipe that involves decent cooking time, and they're not going to be able to make me willing to eat broccoli(gently caress broccoli). It's easy if you know how to do it but for a large and growing number of adults who have never had any introduction to it it's some kind of dark and terrifying sorcery by which obscure ingredients are combined through mysterious and probably painful processes to be transmuted into food. It used to be a no-brainer you'd learn from your parents just by doing chores in the house but there's a big class of city folk (and I guess now suburbs folk) who never really cooked their own food on a regular basis so their kids never learned to cook and never do, and their kids never will, and so on. this is true of tons of basic skills, I've met probably more people who think you need to be some kind of genius to weld a joint or fix a busted light switch than not. comes in handy sometimes, the bar for genius being dropped to 'basically competent at simple tasks' you don't need top cuts of meat to make delicious food, and you don't need a ton of time, like 3/4 the poo poo on the fanciest restaurant in town's menu is derived from recipes peasants cooked up using whatever half-rotten garbage they could scavenge and there's thousands of recipes that take like 20 minutes. Broccoli isn't my favorite but it's delicious if not boiled into a gray paste like most people do. Just learning that much hands-on in childhood would be a huge deal to a lot of people. A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Aug 27, 2015 |
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De Nomolos posted:Wish we'd had that class. I remember Computer Programming classes in the mid-80s. Apple 2 machines and we learned BASIC. 10> "Hi" 20> goto 10 Or some such mastery. 
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When I was in 7th grade I first discovered porn and of course as a young pubescent male I was on cloud nine. I was so excited about discovering porn that I loaded my phone absolutely full of all manner of lovely nude photos. Nothing out of the ordinary until I decided it would be a fantastic idea to set my phone background as a nude woman shooting the a victory V with her legs. The very next day I was sitting in science class and my phone starts to ring which immediately leads to the teacher heading in my direction asking whose phone was ringing. I figured my best option was just to pull my phone out and silence it while apologizing sincerely to the teacher for having it go off. Unfortunately my teacher was not a fan of 50 cent and had been severely offended by what I have to admit was too vulgar of a ringtone to ever have on a phone and she proceeds to take up my phone and says that I can pick it up from the office the next day. Fast forward half the day and I'm sitting in literature class waiting for the teacher to start doing her thing when in walks the assistant principal and the science teacher that had taken up my phone earlier. Turns out Mrs. Nosey had decided that she wanted to look at who had called, she claimed she was going to bring my phone back to me if it had ended up being my mom or something because I was a good student and she felt bad about being so harsh. The only problem was that as she opened my Motorola Razr she was greeted by the previously mention spread eagle phone wallpaper. This of course offended her even more than being serenaded by my 50cent ringtone and prompted her to take my phone straight to the assistant principal. They had then spent the majority of their lunch period looking through every file, text, email, etc on my phone. Their looking through the messages was what caused all of the trouble for my young naive self. Basically upon my discovery of all of this awesome porn I had immediately started sending it to my best friends who were all equally as excited to be a party to this new discovery. Some of the more savvy of my friends returned their favorite pictures and we spoke at length about how and when we had made these glorious discoveries. All harmless fun being had by youngsters learning about the joys of the internet. However in the eyes of the two very easy to offend females that had been looking through my text history I was a perverse monster that must be punished. They quickly had assembled the other assistant principles as well as the school resource officer (legit cop that was stationed at the school) and were all waiting in the school conference room which was where I was being led. Apparently in the minds of the ones that had been looking through my pictures and messages I had been exposing other children to the horrors of pornography which in their mind went right along with exposing minors to a nude adult body. This was why the school resource officer was there, they had intentions of attempting to charge me as a sex offender for distributing pornography to minors. I sat in that room being grilled by administrators for about an hour before my requests to call my mother were granted. I had decided that my best course of action would have been to contact my mom and not say a word to anyone in that room. Fortunately for me the story doesn't have a very horrific end and after about 2 hours of me thinking I would be on a sex offender list and go to juvy the principle of the school, who was a total bro, came in and put an end to the whole ordeal stating that, "boys will be boys, no need to give him the third degree over a few pictures." Probably lucky for me because I'm fairly certain that as far as the law is concerned me and the other guys that had all been sharing pictures had indeed committed some sort of sex crime. Needless to say I didn't save any porn or nudes on my phone until around my sophomore year of high school when I was convinced that the lock screen on my iPhone would protect me.
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Aug 27, 2015 21:21
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The only really dumb part of that was setting your phone background to porn. Even a 7th grader should know better than to do that.
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Aug 27, 2015 21:42
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chitoryu12 posted:The only really dumb part of that was setting your phone background to porn. Even a 7th grader should know better than to do that. the Tribunal of Keeping 14 Year Olds From Masturbating was pretty dumb too imo
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Aug 27, 2015 21:50
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:the Tribunal of Keeping 14 Year Olds From Masturbating was pretty dumb too imo I meant in terms of Steve's actions. Like loving every kid has a porn stash somewhere after they discover it. It's just that most of them don't make hardcore porn their cell phone background.
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chitoryu12 posted:I meant in terms of Steve's actions. Like loving every kid has a porn stash somewhere after they discover it. It's just that most of them don't make hardcore porn their cell phone background. If I say that some of the other kids were doing it can I claim stupidity through peer pressure? Really though I agree it was pretty dumb of me, but hey who didn't do dumb stuff when they were in middle school. I must have around a dozen more stories that are just as filled with childhood stupidity.
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