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theultimo
Aug 2, 2004

An RSS feed bot who makes questionable purchasing decisions.
Pillbug

TwoFire posted:

not to mention that bitcoin is so loving broken structurally it really needs a bit more centralization for it to function beyond a spergnerd level.. i mean gently caress it isnt even as reliable as gnutella

They just has a "stress test" it failed spectacularly

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TwoFire
Sep 11, 2001

by Ralp

theultimo posted:

They just has a "stress test" it failed spectacularly

i dunno i might be able to dedicate a video card but i'd have to turn on a computer that wants to upgrade to windows 10 because i didn't say 'no' and gently caress that noise

dad gay. so what
Feb 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
oh my!

big business man
Sep 30, 2012

I now get fully paid in BTC for a 60hr/week software job here in Silicon Valley.

It's glorious.

Has anyone here ever considered working for BTC in lieu of US dollars?

Best,

this_is_hard

TwoFire
Sep 11, 2001

by Ralp
no im waiting for my livingston, er lucent, er, nortel stock to mature

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

Moridin920 posted:

if you don't like it you're welcome to gently caress off but mining bitcoins using tax payer infrastructure while whining about how taxation is theft while you waste taxpayer electricity is some retard logic

to be fair, afaik re: utilities, most electricity comes from a private company. the state usually just sets a safety standard and maybe sends an inspector as a legal courtesy around every couple years. that's the government's only involvement in the energy -> consumer process, at least in the us

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



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Moridin920 posted:

over the course of hundreds of years, as society has developed, we have decided that we need certain things like roads or post offices or healthcare that none of us can individually afford but when we pool our money (taxes) we can afford projects to provide those things.

if you don't like it you're welcome to gently caress off but mining bitcoins using tax payer infrastructure while whining about how taxation is theft while you waste taxpayer electricity is some retard logic

holy poo poo wrecked

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

The White Dragon posted:

to be fair, afaik re: utilities, most electricity comes from a private company. the state usually just sets a safety standard and maybe sends an inspector as a legal courtesy around every couple years. that's its only involvement in the energy -> consumer process

and those utility companies get plenty of subsidies from government as well

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

The White Dragon posted:

to be fair, afaik re: utilities, most electricity comes from a private company. the state usually just sets a safety standard and maybe sends an inspector as a legal courtesy around every couple years. that's the government's only involvement in the energy -> consumer process, at least in the us

that's true electricity investments in the US are mostly privately funded but there's still a lot of government subsidies floating around

a lot of them are in the form of tax breaks

theultimo
Aug 2, 2004

An RSS feed bot who makes questionable purchasing decisions.
Pillbug
Eh, if we only went back to the gold standard......

TwoFire
Sep 11, 2001

by Ralp

theultimo posted:

Eh, if we only went back to the gold standard......

dirty, filthy jew gold :fap:

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
iirc one of the reasons we abandoned the gold standard is because there was literally not enough gold in the world to back the amount of money in circulation

like at one point the US debt was worth 3x the total amount of gold in the entire world or some poo poo and the government said 'well this is dumb we can't even pay this off if we wanted to.'

plus your currency's value is super dependent on some dumb poo poo like gold. if you want Russia to crack open Siberia and send gold prices plummeting 50% and thus devalue our currency 50% then cool.

big business man
Sep 30, 2012

What is everyone's thoughts on Rand Paul?

I truly believe that Rand Paul is just "playing the game". I genuinely don't believe his views are much different than his father's, but he's seen that political success (at it's highest levels) cannot be accomplished on the principled views his father took. I think whether Rand is ultimately a gateway to liberty will depend a lot on what happens in the future. I don't know exactly what his end game is. If he just wants the power and prestige of being president, he probably won't be much different than any other president. If he has some radical ideas for what he could do with executive power (i.e. pardoning every criminal imprisoned on mere drug possession), he could be a very interesting historical figure.

Thanks! :)

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



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this_is_hard posted:

What is everyone's thoughts on Rand Paul?

I truly believe that Rand Paul is just "playing the game". I genuinely don't believe his views are much different than his father's, but he's seen that political success (at it's highest levels) cannot be accomplished on the principled views his father took. I think whether Rand is ultimately a gateway to liberty will depend a lot on what happens in the future. I don't know exactly what his end game is. If he just wants the power and prestige of being president, he probably won't be much different than any other president. If he has some radical ideas for what he could do with executive power (i.e. pardoning every criminal imprisoned on mere drug possession), he could be a very interesting historical figure.

Thanks! :)

ok

TwoFire
Sep 11, 2001

by Ralp

Moridin920 posted:

like at one point the US debt was worth 3x the total amount of gold in the entire world or some poo poo and the government said 'well this is dumb we can't even pay this off if we wanted to.'

I remember when our debt was only 30,000,000x the amount of gold. :cry:

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
I think a lot of people forget the executive branch isn't the king/queen and if congress decides they hate you you're not really going to accomplish anything.

big business man
Sep 30, 2012


I would recommend you check out some of his websites and his wiki so you can be more informed.

http://www.randpaul.com

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rand_Paul

Please come back and post once you've read up a bit!

Thanks! :)

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

this_is_hard posted:

I have been pondering this issue quite extensively; if I do business with a state employee, who's wages are certainly stolen, have I not abetted the crime?

However, using this same line of ontological reasoning, we must also conclude conducting business with any firm having received even a penny of government money is a problem, because of the money's fungibility.

Simply put, if you sell a widget to a public school teacher, you've clearly accepted stolen goods. However, if you sell a widget to a business owner who has received a government subsidy,

What is your personal opinion on the acceptable amount of commercial conduct between an individual and the State?

(Where the State is more broadly defined as the government, state employees, welfare recipients, state-subsidized enterprise, or state-supported charities/nonprofits, such as universities)

IF the government is a lie and the law is wrong, then there's nothing wrong with stealing.

Take that tax money, and your employee's wages while you're at it! No gods no masters!

TwoFire
Sep 11, 2001

by Ralp

Moridin920 posted:

I think a lot of people forget the executive branch isn't the king/queen and if congress decides they hate you you're not really going to accomplish anything.

yeah thats worked really loving well the last decade

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

lol there is no private enterprise without support from the state, the question is nonsense

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

this_is_hard posted:

What is everyone's thoughts on Rand Paul?

I truly believe that Rand Paul is just "playing the game". I genuinely don't believe his views are much different than his father's, but he's seen that political success (at it's highest levels) cannot be accomplished on the principled views his father took. I think whether Rand is ultimately a gateway to liberty will depend a lot on what happens in the future. I don't know exactly what his end game is. If he just wants the power and prestige of being president, he probably won't be much different than any other president. If he has some radical ideas for what he could do with executive power (i.e. pardoning every criminal imprisoned on mere drug possession), he could be a very interesting historical figure.

Thanks! :)

I agree but libertarianism is wrong. I would love to have a fleshed out, polite debate with you to explain why free market capitalism is inherently contradictory and libertarianism is wrong

TwoFire
Sep 11, 2001

by Ralp

Commie NedFlanders posted:

I agree but libertarianism is wrong. I would love to have a fleshed out, polite debate with you to explain why free market capitalism is inherently contradictory and libertarianism is wrong

says the guy with a white waifu

Savington
Apr 9, 2007
I'm not Stinkmeister, this title is here so waar can tell the difference between Stinkmeister and myself in mafia games.
I see LF is back

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pwnyXpress
Mar 28, 2007
full socialism now

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