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Ultimately your sense of worth should come from you, not from your interactions with other people. If you get rejected you have to feel like it's her loss, not yours, and legit believe it.
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Aug 21, 2015 21:00
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Zzulu posted:The issue is clearly with the women I never said that. I'd be just as concerned about creepshaming if I were gay. Moridin920 posted:Ultimately your sense of worth should come from you, not from your interactions with other people. What? How on earth could I believe it would be their loss unless through massive self-delusion?
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Aug 21, 2015 21:07
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Benny Harvey posted:What? How on earth could I believe it would be their loss unless through massive self-delusion? Because if you're someone with interesting hobbies and poo poo to talk about and things to offer then it really is their loss. Obviously you're not at that point now so I'm saying self-improve until you can at least somewhat believe that. Your self image is obviously very poor and you should work to improve it. You yourself said you have no hobbies or interests so you don't have poo poo to talk about. What makes you think anyone is going to want to be in a relationship with that? Would you want to date someone that you just gently caress sometimes and couldn't carry a conversation otherwise?
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Aug 21, 2015 21:16
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I'm a refined obese gentleman on antidepressants. I have no goals, interests or hobbies. I spend my cash on whores. I'm only interested in women who are way hotter than me. Why are women rejecting me?
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Aug 21, 2015 21:19
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i didn't have sex in high school, but instead of playing video games and crying i learned stuff and built up skills and hobbies i could be proud of.
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Aug 21, 2015 21:32
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Moridin920 posted:Because if you're someone with interesting hobbies and poo poo to talk about and things to offer then it really is their loss. Not necessarily and thinking so is kinda vain imo. Moridin920 posted:You yourself said you have no hobbies or interests so you don't have poo poo to talk about. What makes you think anyone is going to want to be in a relationship with that? Would you want to date someone that you just gently caress sometimes and couldn't carry a conversation otherwise? I actually don't care about getting a girlfriend beyond fulfilling my social obligations so I probably will start dating someone that I just gently caress sometimes and couldn't carry a conversation otherwise (ie. another train-wreck like me). Zzulu posted:I'm a refined obese gentleman on antidepressants. I have no goals, interests or hobbies. I spend my cash on whores. I'm only interested in women who are way hotter than me. Jokes on you buddy, women don't reject me anymore. Because I don't try.
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Aug 21, 2015 21:33
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LOVE LOVE SKELETON posted:i didn't have sex in high school, but instead of playing video games and crying i learned stuff and built up skills and hobbies i could be proud of. What skills and hobbies? e: also it seems like very few people I've met have hobbies. Benny Harvey fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Aug 21, 2015 |
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Aug 21, 2015 21:33
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well, do you create anything? do you write, make music, draw, build stuff, whatever else?
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Aug 21, 2015 21:40
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i am whole foods. posted:well, do you create anything? do you write, make music, draw, build stuff, whatever else? No.
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Aug 21, 2015 21:44
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Aug 21, 2015 21:45
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Benny Harvey posted:What skills and hobbies? Most people don't. It's so funny how goons of all people are trying to pretend that missing out on your formative friends and not having friends, social experiences, and girlfriends is no big deal. If you missed out on that you will never be a complete human being no matter how much weight you can lift, or how many adult arts and crafts groups you belong to. Keep loving coping losers. No amount of adult kickball games will ever make up for being sixteen and not making sweet love to your high school sweetheart, and being completely in love.
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Aug 21, 2015 21:45
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Benny Harvey posted:What skills and hobbies? mostly music writing/production stuff, some writing, building electronics, etc. whatever kept my attention. i don't think i've met anyone without any hobbies. have you asked these people about what they're interested in?
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Aug 21, 2015 21:46
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LOVE LOVE SKELETON posted:mostly music writing/production stuff, some writing, building electronics, etc. whatever kept my attention. Good point. I'm too afraid to really get to know people because then that's one more person that knows what a waste of space I am.
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Aug 21, 2015 21:49
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Benny Harvey posted:Not necessarily and thinking so is kinda vain imo. Nah. I'm not saying be a cocky douche, I'm saying legit think you are a good person with good things to offer other people. If you don't think that then you need to self examine. I mean if you just think you're a piece of poo poo and hoping someone will eventually ignore that then you're right you won't ever have a girlfriend. quote:I actually don't care about getting a girlfriend beyond fulfilling my social obligations so I probably will start dating someone that I just gently caress sometimes and couldn't carry a conversation otherwise (ie. another train-wreck like me). I mean idk what to tell you anymore. You're like fundamentally so invested into this persona you've crafted for yourself that it should be obvious why people reject you out of hand. You think people can't tell you're depressed and desperate?
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Aug 21, 2015 21:54
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Aug 21, 2015 21:56
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i lost my butt virginity to jarde fogle in elementary school
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Aug 21, 2015 21:57
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Benny Harvey posted:Good point. I'm too afraid to really get to know people because then that's one more person that knows what a waste of space I am. Like at this point you're either a gimmick or you are depressed and need some help besides a girl to gently caress you.
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Aug 21, 2015 21:57
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Moridin920 posted:Nah. I'm not saying be a cocky douche, I'm saying legit think you are a good person with good things to offer other people. If you don't think that then you need to self examine. Being a good person with good things to offer doesn't necessarily mean it's someone's loss for rejecting you though. I haven't crafter a persona for myself, this is who I am. i am whole foods. posted:do you want to? No.
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Aug 21, 2015 21:59
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Benny Harvey posted:Being a good person with good things to offer doesn't necessarily mean it's someone's loss for rejecting you though. Yeah it does, because they missed out on the good conversation/jokes/times/whatever they could have had with you. For example, if I enjoyed brewing my own beer and got pretty good at it, people would enjoy drinking it. If they were assholes who rejected me out of hand, they'd miss out.
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Aug 21, 2015 22:00
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Moridin920 posted:Like at this point you're either a gimmick or you are depressed and need some help besides a girl to gently caress you. I am depressed but I don't see how therapy is going to help. How can someone convince me that I enjoy things? It's not even objectively wrong to not like anything.
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Aug 21, 2015 22:00
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Moridin920 posted:Yeah it does, because they missed out on the good conversation/jokes/times/whatever they could have had with you. They could still have that in a platonic relationship with you. Anyway, some people just don't fit well together.
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Aug 21, 2015 22:01
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Benny Harvey posted:I am depressed but I don't see how therapy is going to help. How can someone convince me that I enjoy things? It's not even objectively wrong to not like anything. if you enjoy literally nothing there's something wrong like a chemical imbalance or something. it's not 'objectively wrong' to not like anything but at that point you might as well be a complete nihilist and kill yourself. What's the point of living if you don't like anything? I'm not saying kill yourself, I'm saying maybe try to change things instead of just wallowing in misery. Benny Harvey posted:They could still have that in a platonic relationship with you. Anyway, some people just don't fit well together. of course but I'm not friends with every single person I've asked out. sometimes it becomes platonic, most of the time if she doesn't want to kick it in that way there's not really much else to talk about; i've got enough friends as it is.
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Aug 21, 2015 22:01
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oh i cant get girls maybe get a six pack stomach retards or at least not something you can call a gut https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGyuWfrh0pU
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Aug 21, 2015 22:02
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Moridin920 posted:if you enjoy literally nothing there's something wrong like a chemical imbalance or something. How do you know you're not just pathologising a personality trait? I won't kill myself because it would be painful.
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Aug 21, 2015 22:03
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Benny Harvey posted:Good point. I'm too afraid to really get to know people because then that's one more person that knows what a waste of space I am. So you gonna keep being a loving self pitying pussy loser or are you gonna maybe take a step and get some therapy and feel better about yourself. Your choice.
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Aug 21, 2015 22:09
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Benny Harvey posted:How do you know you're not just pathologising a personality trait? Not liking anything or not finding joy in anything including yourself isn't a personality trait. You're gonna wake up in 10-15 years and realize you've squandered your youth on this self pity poo poo. Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Aug 21, 2015 |
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Aug 21, 2015 22:12
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why do you keep trying moridin, jeez you're not gonna fix that mess lol
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Aug 21, 2015 22:24
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Benny Harvey posted:How do you know you're not just pathologising a personality trait? have you enjoyed something at any point in your life, something gave you happiness and/or or a sense of purpose?
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Aug 21, 2015 22:24
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Zzulu posted:why do you keep trying moridin, jeez idk man I just feel bad because everyone deserves some love
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Aug 21, 2015 22:26
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Aug 21, 2015 22:28
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Moridin920 posted:Not liking anything or not finding joy in anything including yourself isn't a personality trait. I'll try but tbh, I feel that whatever I do is wasted time because I'm incapable of enjoying anything. I'm going to my GP next Wednesday, I'll bring up the depression then. i am whole foods. posted:have you enjoyed something at any point in your life, something gave you happiness and/or or a sense of purpose? No, I've just drifted through life.
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Aug 21, 2015 22:31
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Aug 21, 2015 22:34
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Zzulu posted:do you like anime Watched Dragonball-Z once because lots of kids at school were raving about it but I thought it was poo poo.
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Aug 21, 2015 22:47
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Aug 21, 2015 22:52
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I may of graduated highschool an awkward virgin, but I was the only one at my school to clear heroic Ulduar on release  (And like everyone else I managed to get laid freshman year so in the end meh)
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Aug 21, 2015 23:19
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Benny Harvey posted:Jesus, even I don't want to die just because women won't touch my dick for free. Honestly, if someone cries because they can't have sex that's a sign of real emotional problems. no poo poo. that's why i posted it. the whole point was i got better. you may not be as bad as i got as of yet but eventually you'll get there. it takes a long time.
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Aug 22, 2015 01:10
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Benny Harvey posted:I don't get how having a casual conversation leads to sex without at least one party deliberately steering it that way. And sure I could talk to women and get nowhere (and I'd be OK with that) but then people will think I'm deliberatley sabotaging myself. two things: 1) people don't necessarily "steer the conversation toward sex," they start talking and feel a connection and spend time together and then sex happens; this isn't always what goes down but not every sex situation is "hey wanna gently caress?" "okay sure" 2) taking up activities is one way to work yourself out of depression
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Aug 22, 2015 01:50
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Benny Harvey posted:Then how come women have also tried forcing me to approach women in clubs and bars? these women are not giving you good advice
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Benny Harvey posted:What? How on earth could I believe it would be their loss unless through massive self-delusion? i'm not kidding here: keep asking yourself this question over and over and over until the egg splits open and the yolk comes out
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