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Oncogene posted:They're largely considered "post-grunge" which essentially takes grunge and, somehow, makes it even worse if you can believe that. I've heard it. I can believe.
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The worst crime of nu metal is that the genre convinced Metallica that was the direction metal music was going and the subsequent record permanently ruined Metallica
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Aug 18, 2015 05:53
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hemophilia posted:The worst crime of nu metal is that the genre convinced Metallica that was the direction metal music was going and the subsequent record permanently ruined Metallica the black album ruined metallica
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Aug 18, 2015 05:56
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Haverchuck posted:the black album ruined metallica I disagree. It was st. Angry
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Aug 18, 2015 05:57
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I look back on angsty middle-school to high school me and feel embarrassed at my taste in music... but yeah guys who are 30+ Nu-Metal and other poo poo was popular when I was an angsty teen like 10 years after you because I am only 22. However in high school it died a pretty quick death by the time I hit 17 or so, having been slain on the altar of Deep House and quirky alt-rock for weird white kids who aren't as angry anymore.
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Aug 18, 2015 06:02
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Black Album was basically the signal for all the thrash heads that they were gonna go the "mainstream" route and seen as the start of the eventual decline that everyone realized once St. Angerer came out.
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Aug 18, 2015 06:03
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gently caress those macarina el nu-metal fucks in macarina too
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Indubitable Leg posted:Black Album was basically the signal for all the thrash heads that they were gonna go the "mainstream" route and seen as the start of the eventual decline that everyone realized once St. Angerer came out. i think the 90's short haircut albums were actually better than black album, particularly the double album of covers
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Aug 18, 2015 06:09
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remember the late 90s swing revivial lol. that one had no legs
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Aug 18, 2015 06:14
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Haverchuck posted:i think the 90's short haircut albums were actually better than black album, particularly the double album of covers Load had some decent tracks but compared to Kill 'Em All and Ride The Lightning it was definitely a slowdown and a turn into the post grunge foray from which they really never returned. They can right a thrash song here and there but at this point (plus the rumors that Lars couldn't play that fast to begin with), even they're probably aware they're just riding on the laurels that came with being the biggest of The Big 4.
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Aug 18, 2015 06:18
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Load and reload have a lot of blues and country elements that make them distinctly not metal but I've always had a taste for blues and I didn't mind it. I can see the guys with a really narrow genre interest like hardcore thrashers being justifiably put out but those albums are solid music. St. Anger is very bad.
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Aug 18, 2015 06:26
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I think And Justice For All was the first hint for thrashers that something was off (and where the theory that Lars couldn't play fast starts). The drums were slower and the overall theme wasn't as aggressive compared to Master of Puppets before it. Not a bad album by any stretch (still considered among the greats), but yeah if you were a thrasher in '88 you caught a glimpse of things to come. I don't mind the bluesy aspects since Metal has its roots in the blues genre (Black Sabbath started as a blues coverband), though the country aspects kinda coincided when Country music started becoming the bloated behemoth it is today.
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Aug 18, 2015 06:39
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Load and reload were really bad by any standard but St anger is one of, if not the worst album I've ever subjected myself to.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O_3RjbBvEQ
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Cephalectomy posted:Load and reload were really bad by any standard but St anger is one of, if not the worst album I've ever subjected myself to. Then best steer clear of the sonic abomination that is Lulu.
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Aug 18, 2015 06:51
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the metallica opinion zone
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Aug 18, 2015 06:52
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St anger is nu metal so it counts. Lulu is unbelievable. I am the table.
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I was really into the metal that came after numetal. Stuff like Killswitch Engage, early All that remains, Soilwork, Children of Bodom, In Flames, Mastodon, Lamb of God, etc. With the exception of All That Remains, I still like all those bands but pretty much only play Mastodon and Soilwork these days because they're cool and good. The others never really evolved their sound or evolved it into bad territory. Also, Death Magnetic is a decent Metallica album if you get the GH remastered version that was going around shortly after its release. Chromatic fucked around with this message at 07:18 on Aug 18, 2015 |
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Aug 18, 2015 07:07
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I like that part in St. Anger when Hetfield goes KILL KILL KILL KILL over and over again it was awesome lol He says it about 20 times without stopping almost totally monotone. That's my kind of music
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Aug 18, 2015 07:23
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kill-uh, kill-uh, kill-uh lemonade-uh
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Aug 18, 2015 07:42
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Who the gently caress is still listening to this poo poo? I seriously think the late 90s early 2000s was the shittiest period of popular music ever, I can't even get nostalgic for it even though I was a child at the time and was mostly happy then
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Chromatic posted:I was really into the metal that came after numetal. Stuff like Killswitch Engage, early All that remains, Soilwork, Children of Bodom, In Flames, Mastodon, Lamb of God, etc. With the exception of All That Remains, I still like all those bands but pretty much only play Mastodon and Soilwork these days because they're cool and good. The others never really evolved their sound or evolved it into bad territory. In Flames is pretty good I went to one of their concerts once and enjoyed myself Trivium opened and they were okay, if I recall the singer was concerned for peoples' safety in the pit and generally seemed like he wanted us to have a good time and I appreciated that, you know?
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shiksa posted:metalcore is basically the same thing but with skinnier people and glam metal makeup. that'd be true if avenged sevenfold was the only metalcore band
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Aug 18, 2015 08:30
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swampland posted:Who the gently caress is still listening to this poo poo? I seriously think the late 90s early 2000s was the shittiest period of popular music ever, I can't even get nostalgic for it even though I was a child at the time and was mostly happy then If you were a teenage male like I was you couldn't bring yourself to admit that it was true. But it is.
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Aug 18, 2015 08:31
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Machine Head back in the early 2000s was one of the best gigs ever. BTW check out Chelsea Wolfe's new release "Abyss" if you like a goth/metal PJ Harvey.
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Omi-Polari posted:Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Destiny's Child, NSync and all that was actually the good popular music at that time. I was talking really about stuff like Three Doors Down, Limp Bizkit, Hoobastank, Creed, Linkin Park, Korn that kinda poo poo that was just everywhere around then, awful nu-metal/post grunge. I was an almost teenage male.
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Master of Puppets killed Thrash Metal. Oh check out the new Disturbed song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jct3HKRYU2A Sounds like it was written by a 16 year old that just got a Bob Marley Shirt.
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Possibly Chicken posted:Master of Puppets killed Thrash Metal. I was confused by your description because I just listened to The Sickness and going from Voices to that song has left me still very confused. I can write better weed lyrics than that.
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Chromatic posted:I was really into the metal that came after numetal. Stuff like Killswitch Engage, early All that remains, Soilwork, Children of Bodom, In Flames, Mastodon, Lamb of God, etc. With the exception of All That Remains, I still like all those bands but pretty much only play Mastodon and Soilwork these days because they're cool and good. The others never really evolved their sound or evolved it into bad territory. mastodon is real good and helped open up a genre with cool acts like red fang baroness and the sword
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Blue Raider posted:mastodon is real good and helped open up a genre with cool acts like red fang baroness and the sword I don't think they've put out a bad album. Red Fang and The Sword really aren't my thing but I hear Baroness is great. I should check them out.
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in flames turning out the way they did was real bad, shame they couldn't be consistently good like the other similar swede bands like dark tranquillity and soilwork well soilwork put out a few duds in the mid 00s but they getting good again and their upcoming LP is supposed to be sweet
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For melodeath you hop over to Finland for the good poo poo, which is Kalmah
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hemophilia posted:For melodeath you hop over to Finland for the good poo poo, which is fixed that for u m8
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Aug 18, 2015 11:43
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I'm going to kick your face into space bitch
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Aug 18, 2015 11:48
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fuckin (hed) pe were amazing til 2006
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hemophilia posted:For melodeath you hop over to Finland for the good poo poo, which is 
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Haverchuck posted:the black album ruined metallica Haverchuck posted:the black album ruined metallica Haverchuck posted:the black album ruined metallica Haverchuck posted:the black album ruined metallica Haverchuck posted:the black album ruined metallica Haverchuck posted:the black album ruined metallica
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Actually it was Cliff dying that ruined them.
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hemophilia posted:I disagree. It was st. Angry "We're playing fast again LOL"
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We can identify points of failure leading to where they are now but St. Anger was the first major transgression against my ears. You can say the black album was when they sold out or load/reload is when they stopped being metal but you can chalk not liking that music up to taste. St. Angry is just bad. Death Magnetic was a death rattle. Lulu is postmortem
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