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wyldhoney
Nov 7, 2005
huh?
I guess we've moved on to China now but I just wanted to chime in here; as a descendant of people who were snatched up, transported half a world away and dumped in the tropical wilderness, gently caress the Brits! (And the Spanish, Portuguese and ESPECIALLY the Belgians.)

Also, slave mortality rates may have been very high in the Windies, but in certain islands they had to basically give up on slavery because we just kept running away into the hills and then staging raids on the plantations and burning poo poo to the ground. Google neg mawon/marron - most if the documentation is about Haiti but this was happening in the southern islands like Grenada and Saint Lucia as well. The Battle of Rabot is a good tale of how the neg mawon fought the Brits until they gave up and let them go back to Africa. Phone posting so no links, sorry.

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feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

computer parts posted:

Which, incidentally continued into the future with one of the Opium War treaties literally saying that you couldn't give any other country a better deal than Britain.

Most Favoured Nation clauses are a standard part of commercial treaties up to the present day. There's nothing particularly unusual or reprehensible about that in and of itself.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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feedmegin posted:

Most Favoured Nation clauses are a standard part of commercial treaties up to the present day. There's nothing particularly unusual or reprehensible about that in and of itself.

Sure, but it kinda is when it's imposed at gunpoint against a clearly unwilling country, and it kinda is even more reprehensible when you do it so that you can keep up the biggest drug-running operation in history.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Cerebral Bore posted:

Sure, but it kinda is when it's imposed at gunpoint against a clearly unwilling country, and it kinda is even more reprehensible when you do it so that you can keep up the biggest drug-running operation in history.

Hence why I said 'in and of itself'. OP made it sound like this was some particularly unusual and cruel provision of the treaty. It's not. The cruel bit is forcing the treaty at gunpoint in the first place, not that specific provision.

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