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Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
has been deployed...

...but experts warn it is
just a drop in the ocean.
You know, I just realized that the Yusha > Yushia thing is probably a reference to the Agarest Wars games, where your character romances women and has sons that continue the story forward via time-skips. I wonder if the third guy on the cover art, to the right of Yusha, is going to be Yushia's son?

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AweStriker
Oct 6, 2014

Captain Bravo posted:

You know, I just realized that the Yusha > Yushia thing is probably a reference to the Agarest Wars games, where your character romances women and has sons that continue the story forward via time-skips. I wonder if the third guy on the cover art, to the right of Yusha, is going to be Yushia's son?

That doesn't seem particularly likely. Yushia is a couple generations out from Yusha, since Overture and Judgment took place in Goddess Era 600, and Revolution is in GE800.

All of the modes in the first game were also in years that were a multiple of 100 (Hero 30: GE100, Evil Lord 30: GE200, Princess 30: GE300, Knight 30 and Hero 300: GE500).

There is a precedent here and given the prevalence of centennial and millennial events I don't think they'll be breaking it.


Descendant, though, yeah that's quite possible.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
has been deployed...

...but experts warn it is
just a drop in the ocean.
Oh, doy, that's what I meant.

dscruffy1
Nov 22, 2007

Look out!
Nap Ghost
No joke, this episode has my favorite quest in the game. I think it gets closest to the spirit of HMH1. It's also the first one I saw, back when the game came out and people started streaming it.

15: Grimos and Gambling!/Polsy

MightyPretenders
Feb 21, 2014

"The Grimoires are pretty creepy. Let's give them a cuter name!"

Defeat the Grimo in 30 Seconds!


It's really a relief to see our heroes staying upbeat despite the (slightly) more serious plot.

Araxxor
Oct 20, 2012

My disdain for you all knows no bounds.
Now did the Evil Lord Weapon slip on a banana peel, or the actual banana? Also I love how it's called a Death Trap. Just what was going on with Overture and Judgement? Considering the later parts of the game, those chapters really stick out like a sore thumb.

The casino's payout is heavily in the player's favor. If you keep spending time playing the slots, eventually you'll get a huge pile of funbux to spend on items. It'll take a while though. Oh, and the Global Level ups are not worth it, especially since it's far easier to grind up later in the game.

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Dr. Fetus posted:

Now did the Evil Lord Weapon slip on a banana peel, or the actual banana? Also I love how it's called a Death Trap. Just what was going on with Overture and Judgement? Considering the later parts of the game, those chapters really stick out like a sore thumb.

The casino's payout is heavily in the player's favor. If you keep spending time playing the slots, eventually you'll get a huge pile of funbux to spend on items. It'll take a while though. Oh, and the Global Level ups are not worth it, especially since it's far easier to grind up later in the game.

No lie, I had to literally stop and start grinding at one point in the game because all the enemies in a mission had both poo poo payout and were unkillable at the starting level.

So a slow climb was impossible because I couldn't afford healing and time resets. It was one or the other.



(then again grinding involved finding yellow/red beast global enemies and whipping out the beast beat, parking the hero castle next to their exact spawn point, entering and exiting to respawn them.)

Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Sep 15, 2015

dscruffy1
Nov 22, 2007

Look out!
Nap Ghost

Rigged Death Trap posted:

No lie, I had to literally stop and start grinding at one point in the game because all the enemies in a mission had both poo poo payout and were unkillable at the starting level.

So a slow climb was impossible because I couldn't afford healing and time resets. It was one or the other.



(then again grinding involved finding yellow/red beast global enemies and whipping out the beast beat, parking the hero castle next to their exact spawn point, entering and exiting to respawn them.)

Aside from one quest in particular, I found I didn't have a problem with quests as long as I could get through every global dungeon as I encountered it, except for the last one. If there's enemies in that dungeon that are too strong then I have to work at it.

This exact situation will come up in a few videos.

Scalding Coffee
Jun 26, 2006

You're already dead
Shamal can't take a hit at all.


That Bowgun was an instrumental weapon before and during the Princess 30 mode. Her father is a giant of a man and found the weapon that makes the wielder hyper-aggressive. He decided to invade all the kingdoms of the world and brought world peace through force. During the actual Princess 30, which is a shmup, he was stricken with a withering curse and his shy daughter was given the bowgun, two knights, and an immortal bodyguard army, to find the cure. Several cures and sudden curses later, they discovered that Noire was behind all this. After undoing his mind control of a dragon by shooting many arrows into its face, Princess was given a strong enough cure that the king recovered twice his size and smashed Noire out of the kingdom.

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

I wanna play Hero-King 30.
Because that sounds like it would be fun.

dscruffy1
Nov 22, 2007

Look out!
Nap Ghost

Rigged Death Trap posted:

I wanna play Hero-King 30.
Because that sounds like it would be fun.

He also has the power of THE THIRD EYE which can see through magical veils and illusions. The World King was pretty much a badass.

Araxxor
Oct 20, 2012

My disdain for you all knows no bounds.

dscruffy1 posted:

He also has the power of THE THIRD EYE which can see through magical veils and illusions. The World King was pretty much a badass.

Dude also managed to snag 200 years of peace instead of the 100 years Hero and Evil Lord bought.

dscruffy1
Nov 22, 2007

Look out!
Nap Ghost
The only thing this section is missing is suplexing a train to make it peak FF6.

16: New Ally, Old Enemy!/Polsy

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

So, what happens if you do the death rail mission first? Does it allow you to skip those two other missions?

dscruffy1
Nov 22, 2007

Look out!
Nap Ghost

Carbon dioxide posted:

So, what happens if you do the death rail mission first? Does it allow you to skip those two other missions?

I...don't actually know! My first instinct is no since killing the grimos seems like a necessity but I'm not sure, it's possible to skip a few quests here and there.

Araxxor
Oct 20, 2012

My disdain for you all knows no bounds.
Whoever drew the art for the bad guys really had fun doing so.

Carbon dioxide posted:

So, what happens if you do the death rail mission first? Does it allow you to skip those two other missions?

I think the train just gets put out of commission until you do the other 2 missions. While there are a couple of optional quests, you can't really skip any that are vital to the plot.

Also:

Neruz posted:

She's not a just the Time Goddess; she's also the incarnation of success through sheer blind incompetence. And it's great.

Time Goddess is still one of the best characters.

Zanzibar Ham
Mar 17, 2009

You giving me the cold shoulder? How cruel.


Grimey Drawer
The Time Goddess is great because when you think about it, she's no different from any mythical deity, she provides miracles for the sacrifices people offer her. And she likes them sacrifices!

Shady Amish Terror
Oct 11, 2007
I'm not Amish by choice. 8(
Greedy, egotistical, struggling in vain against stupidity; she really is a classical God with a minor facelift, yeah. And yes, it is great.

Neruz
Jul 23, 2012

A paragon of manliness
She comes across as even more ditzy and oblivious than most classical Gods, though not all of them, a classical God also wouldn't usually be so cheerful :v:

Matlock Birthmark
Sep 24, 2005

I wanted this to happen!!
Soiled Meat

Neruz posted:

a classical God also wouldn't usually be so cheerful :v:

She's probably so cheerful because the Heros feed her avarice. Without money, you end up guard in a castle for centuries after she forgets you exist.

Scalding Coffee
Jun 26, 2006

You're already dead
I forgot about the invincible allies in that map. It might end up being that the puppeteer will take a hit before you can actually KO an ally if you grinded enough.

dscruffy1
Nov 22, 2007

Look out!
Nap Ghost
It's a few hours before I'd post normally but y'know whatever, it's five o'clock somewhere.

17: Go! Fly, Childonyx!/Polsy

Zanzibar Ham
Mar 17, 2009

You giving me the cold shoulder? How cruel.


Grimey Drawer

dscruffy1 posted:

it's five o'clock somewhere.

In fact it is right here! :cheeky:

Neruz
Jul 23, 2012

A paragon of manliness
"I guess Childonyx might be related to Syldonyx" he says, not minutes after the Goddess said that he was 'the spitting image of Syldonyx' (implying parentage) and hence Childonyx would be a good name. :v:

Yeah that's Syldonyx's son you've got there.

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

The Glorious Mode 7™ dragon flying, followed by a nice Virtual Boy parody. This is a good chapter.

Araxxor
Oct 20, 2012

My disdain for you all knows no bounds.
Noir, or rather Noire, was the main villain in the first game. Caused trouble for all the protagonists, and is the one who created all those Evil Lords by teaching them the Spell of Destruction. Also managed to kill the Time Goddess for a brief while until she got reincarnated.

And I'm pretty sure the Crimson World is also a callback to a quest in the first game where an Evil Lord was turning the land retro, like Game Boy retro. Aside from changing the enemies, and enabling you to solve a puzzle, that did absolutely nothing and there was little point to it. I don't even think there was a real joke behind it in the Japanese version. XSEED did add in the Zero Wing reference in localization. The glasses gag even made a reappearance in this quest.

Childonyx is the son of Syldonyx (or rather, Syldonix), a dragon who helped out Hero in the first game. Hero healed Syldonix when he got injured, and got to ride around on him, Mode 7 style for a few levels, until Lamde put a stop to that.

David Corbett
Feb 6, 2008

Courage, my friends; 'tis not too late to build a better world.
I wasn't very positive on this game in the first chapter, but these latest few episodes have been excellent. Glad to see that they've gotten a bit of their old charm back!

Scalding Coffee
Jun 26, 2006

You're already dead

Dr. Fetus posted:

Noir, or rather Noire, was the main villain in the first game. Caused trouble for all the protagonists, and is the one who created all those Evil Lords by teaching them the Spell of Destruction. Also managed to kill the Time Goddess for a brief while until she got reincarnated.
I think Noire only taught the Evil Lords the Spell of Destruction. They already existed to be evil jerks standing in their Figaro Defense System palace.


While this chapter had a number of spelling issues and bugs that were not patched, I did get them to fix the lone forest patch in front of the Temple of Time. It was an invisible wall depending on when you pathed into it. Not sure if the bug where people spawned in the ocean was around the same area as well.

Araxxor
Oct 20, 2012

My disdain for you all knows no bounds.

Scalding Coffee posted:

I think Noire only taught the Evil Lords the Spell of Destruction. They already existed to be evil jerks standing in their Figaro Defense System palace.


While this chapter had a number of spelling issues and bugs that were not patched, I did get them to fix the lone forest patch in front of the Temple of Time. It was an invisible wall depending on when you pathed into it. Not sure if the bug where people spawned in the ocean was around the same area as well.

Oh I meant that he turned normal people and creatures into Evil Lords by teaching them the spell. Oh and unlike this game, some of the Evil Lords in HMH1 had completely petty reasons for destroying the world instead of being straight up evil. Some of them didn't even know what the spell did, and was just casting it to find out what it could do.

DeliciousCookie
Mar 4, 2011
Its taken me far too long to realize the name is CHILD - onyx, rather than Chil-Donyx.

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

One of yhem did just because they had enough MP for it.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
has been deployed...

...but experts warn it is
just a drop in the ocean.

quote:

The pusher and the shover robots

That reference bowled me over, very nice Scruffy.

Iunnrais
Jul 25, 2007

It's gaelic.
Yushia has yet to overcome the true and terrible secret of space.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
has been deployed...

...but experts warn it is
just a drop in the ocean.
Oh gently caress, guys. Hero castle has stairs. :gonk:

dscruffy1
Nov 22, 2007

Look out!
Nap Ghost
I am here to protect you.

I am here to protect you from the terrible secret of the DLC.

18: Athena Chips In!/Polsy

Nobody can save you next video though.

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

I was wondering, there were some missions where you almost immediately hit > evil, because it was triggered at L25.

Does anything special happen if you start such a mission with a global level > 25?

Araxxor
Oct 20, 2012

My disdain for you all knows no bounds.

Carbon dioxide posted:

I was wondering, there were some missions where you almost immediately hit > evil, because it was triggered at L25.

Does anything special happen if you start such a mission with a global level > 25?

Nah. It just means you're overleveled.

And yeah, this chapter is a pretty big Final Fantasy VI homage if you haven't caught on by now. There's just no Kefka this time to derail things.

Also for that first quest, I dunno if they fixed it, but there was a bug where you could destroy 2 of the parts on one side, and then get Athena to bomb the other 2, destroying all 4 parts. But if Athena kills the last one, the timer still keeps ticking and the level is rendered unwinnable.

The DLC is just :ughh:

Araxxor fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Sep 21, 2015

Pyroi
Aug 17, 2013

gay elf noises
If this chapter is FF6, does that mean...

Opera??

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

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Pyroi posted:

If this chapter is FF6, does that mean...

Opera??

This specific DLC is more FFX-2 than 6.

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Zanzibar Ham
Mar 17, 2009

You giving me the cold shoulder? How cruel.


Grimey Drawer

Rigged Death Trap posted:

This specific DLC is more FFX-2 than 6.

For a moment there I read that as FFXIII-2 and was really worried for the Time Goddess' heart.

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