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Premiere Date: Sunday August 23rd 2015 9/8c 90 minute pilot episode! Episodes: 6 Website: http://www.amc.com/shows/fear-the-walking-dead Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDxew5SguVw Well, it's late August which means we have about two months to go until everyone's favorite zombie show The Walking Dead returns to AMC in October. What's that you say? You can't wait that long? You have a insatiable appetite to watch zombie mayhem right away? Well, you are in luck! AMC has you covered with Fear the Walking Dead. What is Fear the Walking Dead? Fear the Walking Dead is a companion show to The Walking Dead. It's not technically a spin-off because it doesn't feature any characters from The Walking Dead although it takes place in the same universe. Instead of being set in rural Georgia like the TWD, FTWD moves the action to the west coast and the thriving metropolis of L.A. and tells the story of the initial stages of the walker outbreak. Here is a synopsis from the AMC site: quote:Living in the same universe as The Walking Dead, Fear the Walking Dead is a gritty drama that explores the onset of the undead apocalypse through the lens of a fractured family. Set in a city where people come to escape, shield secrets, and bury their pasts, a mysterious outbreak threatens to disrupt what little stability high school guidance counselor Madison Clark and English teacher Travis Manawa have managed to assemble. The everyday pressure of blending two families while dealing with resentful, escapist, and strung out children takes a back seat when society begins to break down. A forced evolution, a necessary survival of the fittest takes hold, and our dysfunctional family must either reinvent themselves or embrace their darker histories Let's meet this family... The Family: First we have Madison Clark (Kim Dickens) and Travis Manawa (Cliff Curtis). Our two leads trying to keep their new family together, and are recently engaged to each other. Both work at an L.A. high school, Madison as a guidance counselor and Travis as an English teacher. Just going to hazard a guess that Madison is probably a better mother than Lori Grimes and has her hands full parenting... Alicia Clark (Alycia Debnam-Carey) and Nick Clark (Frank Dillane) two siblings with very different personalities. Alicia is a hardworking overachieving high school student, but it's unknown if she enjoys covering Tom Waitts around the campfire like other teenage girls in The Walking Dead universe. Nick is a college dropout and drug addict who has fallen on hard times. If this isn't enough possibilities for heart wrenching drama we also have... Liza Ortiz (Elizabeth Rodriguez) and Chris Manawa (Lorenzo James Henrie) Travis' ex wife and son. Apparently Chris blames his father for the divorce and Liza is trying to get her life back on track by going to school to become a nurse. Neither seem like they would be very effective with a crossbow or katana. Hmmm.... seems a bit more Step by Step or Full House compared to the Ricktatorship and co. we are used to... The walkers can't get here soon enough. Speaking of which the zombies in FTWD being recently deceased are supposed to have a much more normal and fresher appearance. This one actually looks pretty normal if you ignore the blood and the knife sticking out of her chest. Fear the Walking Dead will have a six episode first season, and has already been renewed for a fifteen episode second season. So we can basically plan to watch zombie shows all year in 2016. Let's keep discussion in this thread focused on Fear and keep TWD talk in The Walking Dead thread. That way people don't have worry about spoiling themselves on the other show by reading this thread. Thanks for reading my OP!
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# ? Aug 18, 2015 07:41 |
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 21:50 |
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IGN's review of the pilot seems to confirm a lot of people's fears that the teenagers really drag everything down. I guess we'll see on Sunday.
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 04:39 |
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The name Dillane reminded me of Game of Thrones. Sure enough.
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 04:58 |
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quote:When Civilization Ends, it ends fast not really, no
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 05:27 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:IGN's review of the pilot seems to confirm a lot of people's fears that the teenagers really drag everything down. I guess we'll see on Sunday. So they're going to make for satisfying kills at some point then
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 07:42 |
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Seems that way.
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 14:10 |
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 16:55 |
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So is it going to be like Half life with the cast having to dodge government kill teams as well as zombies and desperate survivors?
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 17:31 |
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Here's what's NOT going to be in the show:quote:1. The cause of the outbreak. Just as in Kirkman's comics — which also won't ever reveal what caused the world as we know it to crumble — neither Fear nor the flagship drama will ever explain what happened to civilization. Erickson, despite his best pitches to Kirkman to touch on the subject, was shot down. "I had a couple of early pitches that touched on that and Robert shut me down. For him, it's never been about what caused it; it's always been about the impact it has on people," Erickson says.
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 19:38 |
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So no Candace Jenner. That doesn't rule out Caitlyn Jenner, though.
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 19:49 |
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moist turtleneck posted:So no Candace Jenner. That doesn't rule out Caitlyn Jenner, though. Caitlyn's upcoming jail term probably rules him out.
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 20:16 |
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zoux posted:we're coming up with as much cool West Coat verbage as we can oh god
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 20:31 |
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boom boom boom posted:oh god Actually it sounds tubular to me.
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 20:51 |
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Jesus looks like he's having trouble.
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 21:54 |
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Everything I read about this spin-off makes it seem more and more pointless.
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# ? Aug 22, 2015 04:30 |
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these tracks dont even make sense
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# ? Aug 22, 2015 10:18 |
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It sounds like I don't need to watch this dumb show to know what's happening in the other dumb show, so that's good. I was wondering if they would do crossover stuff and reveal things about zombies, the outbreak, etc. that would add to our knowledge of the Walking Dead world. But it sounds like they're just making The Walking Dead: West Coast.
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# ? Aug 22, 2015 12:23 |
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I do think it would be cool if the pilot showed a news clip reporting on a Sheriff officer getting shot in a Georgia shootout. I think something like that could happen and not count as a crossover. Would also kind of ground us on how long rick was in a coma before zombie stuff started going down.
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# ? Aug 22, 2015 18:07 |
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You just know someone at AMC has been waiting years for someone to listen to his constant refrain of "what if we made the zombies sexy?"
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# ? Aug 22, 2015 18:22 |
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precision posted:You just know someone at AMC has been waiting years for someone to listen to his constant refrain of "what if we made the zombies sexy?" Everything about this image screams low-budget cash-grab. "The zombies are less decomposed" hype translates to "the makeup work from the original show's pilot was pretty effort-intensive."
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# ? Aug 22, 2015 19:17 |
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Tonight's Talking Dead poll: would you let that zombie give you a blow jibber? Hashtag FearTheBitingDead
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# ? Aug 22, 2015 19:31 |
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Tellah posted:Everything about this image screams low-budget cash-grab. I see what you are saying, I also think fresh zombies are somewhat less interesting because one of the best aspects of TWD was seeing what creative gore/decay makeup would appear in an episode. I wonder how long they will stick to "fresh" zombies. I would think after a week or two of the outbreak they would all be fairly nasty anyways. I really think this show is going to have a challenge to remain unique and different from he main show after the first two seasons.
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# ? Aug 22, 2015 20:30 |
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Tellah posted:Everything about this image screams low-budget cash-grab. It also helps establish a different visual deal for the new show. It's a good idea, helps make the two shows distinct things
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# ? Aug 22, 2015 20:31 |
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Messed up that they aren't going to let running or brick-holding zombies be a thing in the first season. Are Southern zombies smarter than Valley zombies?
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# ? Aug 22, 2015 22:13 |
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Tellah posted:Everything about this image screams low-budget cash-grab. I agree. Same with 'no politicians' or 'no cure.' That just reads to me: we are avoiding things that might deepen or complicate the plot because we do not know how to handle it. "This is not World War Z" is the saddest sentence in that whole article.
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# ? Aug 23, 2015 00:38 |
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They're certainly shoving this show into a corner before it even airs. God forbid you let the writers breathe a bit.
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# ? Aug 23, 2015 02:39 |
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"no cure" is a good rule. I mean, that would undermine the whole idea behind the franchise. And a plotline about people trying to find a cure would be boring as gently caress, because the audience knows they won't succeed. "no politicians" makes sense too. This show is about a family going through the zombie thing. A side story about the Mayor of LA trying to organize stuff would be a distraction from that.
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# ? Aug 23, 2015 03:27 |
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boom boom boom posted:"no cure" is a good rule. I mean, that would undermine the whole idea behind the franchise. And a plotline about people trying to find a cure would be boring as gently caress, because the audience knows they won't succeed.
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# ? Aug 23, 2015 03:32 |
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I think we should see at least some plot about how the authorities are handling the outbreak. Maybe they could have the characters go to a secure compound run by CDC/FEMA/military authority. We wouldn't see what the president is doing but we could at least see that the authorities are trying to keep things together.
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# ? Aug 23, 2015 04:43 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:They're certainly shoving this show into a corner before it even airs. God forbid you let the writers breathe a bit. Hopefully this batch of writers can tell a compelling, narrow-scope story (in a A six-episode premiere should be able to deliver the kind of energy that you would normally expect from the horror/thriller genre.
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# ? Aug 23, 2015 04:57 |
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Bulkiest Toaster posted:I think we should see at least some plot about how the authorities are handling the outbreak. Maybe they could have the characters go to a secure compound run by CDC/FEMA/military authority. We wouldn't see what the president is doing but we could at least see that the authorities are trying to keep things together. There's no reason we couldn't see that. They specifically said Tellah posted:"We definitely will not see politicians and generals trying to coordinate and figure out what this is," So that doesn't rule out characters going to ad-hoc shelters or soldiers trying to protect a building or something. Just that we won't see people in positions of power making decisions or what have you. C'mon, people. I know everyone is very excited to hate this show but let's at least wait until the first episode airs before we start inventing things to hate.
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# ? Aug 23, 2015 05:13 |
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I think the "No Origin" angle is basically bunk -- that'd have given this show a sense of vitality and necessity. Having the characters play detective, attempting to work out where the virus came from while everything fell down around their ears, would be a decent hook. You'd have to structure it so it wasn't just a dumb shell game, but it could work. Even if it didn't do that, it's got to do something to make itself worthwhile. This isn't just a spin-off, it's effectively a reboot that's running at the same time as its parent show. The level of shameless cash grabbing going on here is pretty deplorable, even though it's totally up AMC's alley.
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# ? Aug 23, 2015 05:53 |
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I'm pretty excited to see what it looks like when Cliff Curtis finally gets a chance to play a maori for the first time. I'm hopeful that watching things fall apart will be reasonably compelling, unless they can come up with a city version of wandering through the woods all alone arguing.
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# ? Aug 23, 2015 06:03 |
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Open Source Idiom posted:I think the "No Origin" angle is basically bunk -- that'd have given this show a sense of vitality and necessity. Having the characters play detective, attempting to work out where the virus came from while everything fell down around their ears, would be a decent hook. You'd have to structure it so it wasn't just a dumb shell game, but it could work. That'd be dumb as gently caress. Zombies are impossible, so any attempt at an actual explanation would be dumb. There's nothing necessary about explaining the origin of zombies, in fact it's necessary to not explain it. And there's no vitality in a show about people trying to solve an unsolveable puzzle that no one wants them to solve anyway. This poo poo ain't Twin Peaks, you can't base a show on a mystery you have zero intention of solving. Open Source Idiom posted:Even if it didn't do that, it's got to do something to make itself worthwhile. This isn't just a spin-off, it's effectively a reboot that's running at the same time as its parent show. The level of shameless cash grabbing going on here is pretty deplorable, even though it's totally up AMC's alley. It's not a reboot at all, it's not changing anything or invalidating anything from The Walking Dead. It's other characters in the same world doing different things somewhere else, it's exactly a spin-off. Frasier was not a reboot of Cheers. What are you talking about?
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# ? Aug 23, 2015 06:03 |
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It'd be nice if the zombies just all died one day, but that'd defeat the hook of the series.
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# ? Aug 23, 2015 06:09 |
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boom boom boom posted:It's not a reboot at all, it's not changing anything or invalidating anything from The Walking Dead. It's other characters in the same world doing different things somewhere else, it's exactly a spin-off. Frasier was not a reboot of Cheers. What are you talking about? Technically it's not a spin-off either, since it's not spinning any character off into their own show. I mean, seriously, it's a show about a family and a rag tag bunch of people attempting to survive a zombie apocalypse. That's basically the exact same premise of the other show. Sure, it's not a "reboot" in the classical sense, but there's not too much of a difference from where I'm standing.
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# ? Aug 23, 2015 06:14 |
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It's kind of a problem that there isn't much difference between this show and TWD. You would think they would do something to make it different, beyond having it take place as things are going to hell. It still revolves around a family, which is the main core of TWD (even if by the current season it's mostly a 'chosen family').
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# ? Aug 23, 2015 06:19 |
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Open Source Idiom posted:Technically it's not a spin-off either, since it's not spinning any character off into their own show. It's not spinning off a character, it's the setting that's the same. What definition of spinoff our you using that requires a shared character? And it's not a reboot, because it's not invalidating or replacing anything at all from the original series. And it's not the same premise, because The Walking Dead skipped over the initial outbreak, and this one is focusing on it. Yeah, they probably won't be able to keep up that distinction for more than three or four seasons, but it still won't be a reboot. It's running at the same goddamn time as the original, the original hasn't stopped yet, so there's nothing to reboot! You're out of your loving mind, man.
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# ? Aug 23, 2015 06:23 |
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Open Source Idiom posted:Technically it's not a spin-off either, since it's not spinning any character off into their own show. Jesus Christ that's insulting, it's spinning off one of the key characters: The zombies. Zombies deserve consideration too! More importantly the hook is the world is still fine when this show goes down, so you get to watch everything go to poo poo. In the Walking Dead, Rick wakes up to a world that is already dead. You could spend entire seasons before you get to the world Rick wakes up to.
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# ? Aug 23, 2015 06:23 |
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Forbes.com posted:The opening episode is a full hour long without commercials, so you get a lot of content compared to the typical 42 minutes or so. That’s nice in a way, though I feel like it could have been shorter. A lot goes on in that hour, but it still feels like nothing much actually happens. Well there go my hopes and dreams. boom boom boom posted:
Don't invent my quotes, you goddamn goon
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# ? Aug 23, 2015 07:28 |