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when your body dies, it falls apart into tiny little pieces, it doesn't disappear like in a video game. your cells usually get munched on by other microorganisms and your consciousness dissipates as the organs required for its continued sustenance no longer function, much like what happens if you smack a pc's processor and motherboard to bits with a sledgehammer. non-existence is technically false, but what little is left after death doesn't really qualify as a person homework: catch the energy leaving a dead person's body before it fully dissipates and present it in front of the class by next friday
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quakster posted:when your body dies, it falls apart into tiny little pieces, it doesn't disappear like in a video game. your cells usually get munched on by other microorganisms and your consciousness dissipates as the organs required for its continued sustenance no longer function, much like what happens if you smack a pc's processor and motherboard to bits with a sledgehammer. this is
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Aug 24, 2015 05:25
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hosed up, but true
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Aug 24, 2015 05:26
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you used to exist as a cloud of dust floating through the abyss, even more so we apparently once existed together as an infinitely compacted point in space, but an over-arching universal organization is apparently too absurd to consider
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Aug 24, 2015 05:28
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i'm made entirely of dinosaur fart particles so are my posts
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Aug 24, 2015 05:29
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whether god exists or not comes right down to the definition. what is "god"? "god" is a word. in order for the word "god" to have a use, it needs to correspond to a concept. if you claim that god cannot be defined, your use of the word is synonymous with "everything" and/or "nothing"
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Aug 24, 2015 05:32
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they believe climate activism is a rational and productive activity
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Aug 24, 2015 05:36
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quakster posted:whether god exists or not comes right down to the definition. what is "god"? "god" is a word. in order for the word "god" to have a use, it needs to correspond to a concept. if you claim that god cannot be defined, your use of the word is synonymous with "everything" and/or "nothing" maybe the answer is somewhere in between 
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quakster posted:whether god exists or not comes right down to the definition. what is "god"? "god" is a word. in order for the word "god" to have a use, it needs to correspond to a concept. if you claim that god cannot be defined, your use of the word is synonymous with "everything" and/or "nothing" There is also the whole argument of omnipotent and how the human brain can't conceptualize it correctly, we can only define it as having unlimited power.
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Aug 24, 2015 05:37
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Agag posted:Atheists have no basis for morality, merely conditional whims. As such their ethics are provisional at best, and we furthermore know that atheist regimes are the most murderous in history. atheism isn't a religious ideology, though, and atheists do have a basis for morality. merely asserting that this isn't the case will not make it so.
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Aug 24, 2015 05:39
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gtb op tia
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Jukeboxblues posted:There is also the whole argument of omnipotent and how the human brain can't conceptualize it correctly, we can only define it as having unlimited power.
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Aug 24, 2015 05:50
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"SKY WIZARD SANTA CLAUSE."
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Aug 24, 2015 05:53
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prove to me that all of existence isn't just god diddling itself you can't, you just can't
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Aug 24, 2015 05:56
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it explains literally everything
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Aug 24, 2015 05:57
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Wicker Man posted:"SKY WIZARD SANTA CLAUSE." remember in the dark days of Serious GBS how there used to be heated debates on the merits of telling kids santa claus stories vs. ~~lying to your children~~ 
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Aug 24, 2015 05:59
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telling stories is good as long as you don't threaten kids into "believing" in them. it's the best way to teach and to entertain
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Aug 24, 2015 06:03
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"the bible is a poor source of information on authentic human experience due to it's many contradictions"
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im gay
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id say about 15% of the bible is really good and the rest is garbage trash
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quakster posted:whether god exists or not comes right down to the definition. what is "god"? "god" is a word. in order for the word "god" to have a use, it needs to correspond to a concept. if you claim that god cannot be defined, your use of the word is synonymous with "everything" and/or "nothing"
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solaranus posted:"the bible is a poor source of information on authentic human experience due to it's many contradictions" lmao you're right, most atheists can't spell the word "its" correctly
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Aug 24, 2015 06:08
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Gazpacho posted:cool now tell us the four simultaneous 24-hour days
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Aug 24, 2015 06:09
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quakster posted:what does that even mean http://www.timecube.com/
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Gazpacho posted:cool now tell us about the four simultaneous 24-hour days North, south, east, west.
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timecube now near-instantly redirects me to some dumb ad-site this is it, this is what finally makes me install adblock
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quakster posted:timecube now near-instantly redirects me to some dumb ad-site it took you this long
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Aug 24, 2015 06:25
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I don't know how to post ironically in this thread. Atheists are right and........I give up.
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consequentialist morality is inadequate and mortal sin demonstrably exists, therefore atheism is inadequate
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"i'm going to really shake things up in gbs tonight, baby" -the op on the bus ride home from his community college philosophy class
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Was hoping for more discussion of lesswrong.com and singularitarianism in general "We're completely different from Christians, with their blind faith in Heaven and Hell and the sky fairy. They don't realize that Science will one day give the true believers a peaceful paradise in superior bodies, watched over by a benevolent intelligence that will eternally torture those who didn't help it.  "
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Maldoror posted:you know how like there's all kinds of charities that are run by some religious organization Jukeboxblues posted:There is also the whole argument of omnipotent and how the human brain can't conceptualize it correctly, we can only define it as having unlimited power.
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Agag posted:Pointing out the atheist propensity for mass murder and cultural genocide isn't technically a criticism, since atheists lack any moral framework by which these actions could be considered right or wrong. Growing up I have often heard people say that "knowing right from wrong" is what separates us from the beasts, but is that entirely true? Is it impossible that the moral systems we set up for ourselves had their roots in a natural progression?
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solaranus posted:"the bible is a poor source of information on authentic human experience due to it's many contradictions" lol
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CrashCat posted:And in a world where society is by and large anti-atheist, Britain is not like this and neither are pretty much any of the historically protestant parts of europe. People (except religious people obv) generally get awkward and suspicious of you if you sound interested in religion, and there are lots of people in places like Ireland and poland that really loving hate the catholic church and won't shut up about it I ussd to listen to a lot of arvo pärt and stuff at university and my housemate tried to fix me by making me watch bill maher's religulous. lol
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Commie NedFlanders posted:atheists often think that faith is a sort of declaration of beliefs, they confuse faith for dogma and don't recognize that faith is an action faith isn't an action! Martin Luthor is so pissed at you right now
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quakster posted:non-existence is technically false, but what little is left after death doesn't really qualify as a person Voldemort confirmed
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Listen very closely Smoky One-bedder, for you have free-will and therefore a choice. Either God exists, or God does not exist. Now choose. silence more silence further silence Smoky One-bedder sighs deeply. He reaches into his pocket and produces his totem. He spins it on the counter and turns away to his own personal version of happiness, content in the knowledge that he is right.. The totem spins and then
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CrashCat posted:Growing up I have often heard people say that "knowing right from wrong" is what separates us from the beasts, but is that entirely true? yes, it is entirely true https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcnH_TOqi3I
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CrashCat posted:I know this is an Agag troll but I'd like to consider it for a second. What would you consider a moral framework, and how does it require a religion? Animals tend to care for each other and set up certain societies based on their usefulness to their place in the food chain. They don't pray to some god as far as we can tell, but they don't all rip each other to pieces. The natural order over time seems to have favored those species that have an instinctive tendency toward a certain set of moral behaviors, because cooperation is advantageous in many cases. I've always heard the tag ling "That's what separates us from the beasts" attached to a lot of things, not sure its specifically a morality thing. I like to think it's our ability to think in the abstract that has allowed us to separate ourselves from the beasts. There is also the possibility to consider that working together for survival doesn't necessarily constitute a morality system in effect. I think perhaps people think wise decisions to mean moral ones, at least for people, as the person doing the 'immoral' thing can feel regret after discovering it was a bad thing to do; suggesting that they may not have understood the implications their actions would have. Oppositely, however, there is the notion that they only feel guilt because they have been ostracized for their actions which could have left them excommunicated from the tribe and left to die alone.
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