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value-brand cereal
May 2, 2008

That Robot posted:

Go inside and see if you can find old-timey mayor porn and perhaps a dungeon with the bodies of a barbershop quartet from the 1890s

You might find some spiced gum or stick candy that still might be cool to eat after a century and change

Bring a hacksaw for the chain link lock. Do it for the internet op. Or research who now owns the house?

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Evil Agita
Feb 25, 2005

Lord Fool, give me another chance. I'll prove my strength to you!
go back and enter the house for make benefit of my internetainment please.

a bay
Oct 14, 2014

by Lowtax
Whats a decent thread op doing here

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine

Evil Agita posted:

go back and enter the house for make benefit of my internetainment please.

Yeah, I take it back. If you just call the cops instead of investigating yourself that'd be so boring.

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
Move in.

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
looks like the perfect house to squat in and smoke some crack

SpitztheGreat
Jul 20, 2005
I do a lot of work with buildings that have been abandoned for a long time, and this doesn't look bad at all. The box top and newspapers on the counter top in the kitchen are dead giveaways to me that someone has been there recently. The paper hasn't yellowed at all, and the box top looks dry and crisp. Likely someone is coming in little by little and cleaning the house out while they figure out what to do with it. If the taxes are being paid then the city is unlikely to make a real stink over the property when there are likely dozens of properties, if not hundreds, that are in actual foreclosure or owe back taxes. Even if the property is in foreclosure or owned by the city, demolition is very expensive; and if the property has the kind of history that you're talking about then it will be even more difficult to demolish. The only way that changes is if the house is a safety hazard because it could collapse at any time, and judging from the pictures I don't think it's anywhere close to that.

Interesting OP, don't do anything illegal but it'd be great if you could get more pics or information.

turn it up TURN ME ON
Mar 19, 2012

In the Grim Darkness of the Future, there is only war.

...and delicious ice cream.
I totally want to know more! Looks like a neat house.

Zippy the Bummer
Dec 14, 2008

Silent Majority
The Don
LORD COMMANDER OF THE UKRAINIAN ARMED FORCES

Nessa posted:

For some reason the ZOOM and ENHANCE feature on my computer isn't working.


I'm thinking of doing a wellness check, yes. If I call for one and come back in a few days to see the place boarded up and put up for auction, then I guess I'll have my answer.

Also, perhaps I'll get in touch with the historical society as well.


That would be a good idea to see how long a place has been abandoned. An expiration date on any milk will give you a pretty accurate date.


I'm not breaking in. I went around back to knock on the back door. I really did want to know if someone was living there, squatters or not. I made no attempt to undo the chain on the door. I just popped the camera in a touch to get some photos with no glare. As much as I would love to explore this old house, I don't want to commit any crimes.

I posted this thread because finding out about this place has been really interesting so far and I know some other goons like photos of weird abandoned places.

you're the first person to notice this house existed in ten years or whatever, as long as you don't go smashing the place up, host a rave there, or turn in into a drug/sex den no one will give a poo poo about you going inside

snap the chain and enter

JiveHonky
May 12, 2001

by zen death robot
Grimey Drawer

Secks Cauldron
Aug 26, 2006

I thought they closed that place down!
Cool thread. I'd like to know more about this mysterious house.

0haiThere
Feb 18, 2015

Looks like you're in the barrel today.
Break and enter. This is probably the most exciting thing you'll do this year.

Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

Wedemeyer posted:

Bring a hacksaw for the chain link lock. Do it for the internet op. Or research who now owns the house?

According to the mailbox, the mail is still being delivered to Muriel Clarke. I left a note in the mailbox the other day, and noticed a bank statement and an energy bill. Don't know how long they've been there for.



Technically, according to local laws, if you manage to squat in a place for 10 years without the legal owner kicking you out, you can claim adverse possession of the property and become the legal owner. You can't do it in secret though. You have to live "openly, and notoriously in a hostile manner". And that just means you can't sneak around. You have to let the neighbours know you've moved in, start paying utilities and do maintenance on the place. I guess sometimes, neighbours will welcome the squatter if their presence is causing a junk heap to get fixed up.

Usually, this happens in rural areas with one farmer building on another guy's lot without permission and by the time the other guy tries to sell his land, "Whoops! This part of the land belongs to the other farmer now! Too bad, so sad!"

This would be an ideal house to squat in too. There's a fantastic view, quiet street in an affluent and historic neighbourhood, and only a few blocks from a grocery store and train station. Whenever I fantasize about winning a million dollars, I like to think I'd buy that old house and fix it up nice. But alas, I am far too afraid of breaking any laws or hurting anyone's feelings to just take over a house like that. My family would probably never talk to me again.


SpitztheGreat posted:

I do a lot of work with buildings that have been abandoned for a long time, and this doesn't look bad at all. The box top and newspapers on the counter top in the kitchen are dead giveaways to me that someone has been there recently. The paper hasn't yellowed at all, and the box top looks dry and crisp. Likely someone is coming in little by little and cleaning the house out while they figure out what to do with it. If the taxes are being paid then the city is unlikely to make a real stink over the property when there are likely dozens of properties, if not hundreds, that are in actual foreclosure or owe back taxes. Even if the property is in foreclosure or owned by the city, demolition is very expensive; and if the property has the kind of history that you're talking about then it will be even more difficult to demolish. The only way that changes is if the house is a safety hazard because it could collapse at any time, and judging from the pictures I don't think it's anywhere close to that.

Interesting OP, don't do anything illegal but it'd be great if you could get more pics or information.

The most recent date I could get for "and Muriel still lives at this address..." was 2011. So this house could have only been abandoned for 4 years or less. I don't think that's enough time to yellow the paper or ruin the box?

I'm going to get in touch with the historical society. I did find some minutes of a historical society meeting from 2013 that mentions "memorabilia from the estate of Muriel Clarke," so perhaps that can point me to some contact information if she's in long term care at a hospital or residing at a rest home.

If she's still alive, I would love to chat with her and offer to help with maintenance on the home.

Also, the entire time I was over there today, there was a crew of people doing work at the house next door. When I was knocking on the back door, there was a dude using a table saw only a few feet away from me. All these people doing work in the backyard and garage next door and no one so much as looked at me. Honestly, the house probably got to be this way in the first place because the neighbours didn't notice or care.

Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

Here are a couple photos I snapped of the inside of the garage, from outside. There was only an open latch on the door.

Looks like that might be an old, dining table against the wall?



I can see an old dining chair, but mostly just boxes and bags of books and magazines. I think I see what might be some old photographs in there too.



Also, I heard back from the Heritage Society.

quote:

I'll forward your letter to a couple of people who might be able to help. In the meantime, your best best might be the City of Edmonton Archives.
Good luck-

I popped by the archives yesterday, but all I found (besides an awesome display about Halloween in the city) was a photo of the house from a number of years ago.

This is what the place used to look like!



I also got in touch with the lady who wrote the article about Muriel a few years ago.

quote:

Hello Nessa
I no longer have the contact information I used to have with ERTA. However, I will contact the people in the organization who might know something about a contact and/or know what is Muriel's situation. I hope to get back to you in a couple of days.
Maurine

So hear's hoping I get some new info in a couple days time.

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine
This might be a dumb question, but have you tried knocking on the door again?

metricchip
Jul 16, 2014

If you find a Max Headroom skateboard in there let me know.

Evil Agita
Feb 25, 2005

Lord Fool, give me another chance. I'll prove my strength to you!
Keep us updated. Also: break in.

Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

boom boom boom posted:

This might be a dumb question, but have you tried knocking on the door again?

I went back today to do just that.

I attempted to open the screen door out front again, but this time I realized why it wouldn't open.

It was latched on the inside.



Though it is also latched from the outside by a nail on a piece of string. I can only presume these other latches were closed from the outside with someone sticking their hand through the giant hole in the screen.

I then went around back to knock. Looking in the window, things are exactly the same as before.

These are the branches you have to get under the access the back door.



I checked the mail box and none had been taken yet, but an Anglican newspaper was recently left. It seems likely that someone comes by every couple weeks and takes the mail, or else the box would be overflowing by now.

Still no news from the lady who said she would get back to me.

Boinks
Nov 24, 2003



Anyone else see a face in this one?

Blizzy_Cow
Feb 27, 2006
When one burns one's bridges, what a wonderful fire it makes
Juat wait for night fall and go in. If the cops get called just say you're looking for ghost.

turn it up TURN ME ON
Mar 19, 2012

In the Grim Darkness of the Future, there is only war.

...and delicious ice cream.
There is no way that house isn't still being used. There's things still pinned up on the cork board. That obviously means that someone is living there and using the cork board to plot op's murder.

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine

Boinks posted:

Anyone else see a face in this one?

No?

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

SquadronROE posted:

There is no way that house isn't still being used. There's things still pinned up on the cork board. That obviously means that someone is living there and using the cork board to plot op's murder.

It's a message:

"Silver face follows you. Don't look."

Then by the door: "He sees you now. Too late."

That's weird.

turn it up TURN ME ON
Mar 19, 2012

In the Grim Darkness of the Future, there is only war.

...and delicious ice cream.

Jack Gladney posted:

It's a message:

"Silver face follows you. Don't look."

Then by the door: "He sees you now. Too late."

That's weird.

TO DO: Eat Op.

value-brand cereal
May 2, 2008

That's a good point. OP why don't you leave a note shoved under a door? I think by now it's going to be hella creepy if you go back again with a camera.

Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

SquadronROE posted:

There is no way that house isn't still being used. There's things still pinned up on the cork board. That obviously means that someone is living there and using the cork board to plot op's murder.

If someone was still living there, then you would expect to see at least a few things moved around. Dishes on the counter, things being swept up, that sort of thing. You'd also expect a clear path to the back door that doesn't involve ducking under low hanging branches, and a path to the garbage cans in the alley.

I had left a note in the mail box, so if someone is coming by every couple of weeks to retrieve the mail, then they will get my note and hopefully contact me.

It does however, seem curious. If you were to leave your home to go live in a nursing home, wouldn't you at least make sure the back door is fully closed? And why would you need to latch the screen door on the inside?

Anyway, I did find an article about her brother who died overseas in 1944. I guess he was a spitfire pilot!

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=56407863

quote:

Son of the late ex-Mayor Joseph A. Clarke, and of Mrs. Clarke, former alderman, Flt. Lt. Ben Clarke is missing on operations overseas, it was learned Wednesday.
The ace fighter pilot has been in the news frequently in the past year with his exploits overseas. The airman has served as a fighter pilot in England, North Africa and lately in Italy.
Mrs. Clarke resides as 7852 Jasper ave.
Flt. Lt Clarke, who has been officer commanding the Spitfire squadron for some time, joined the R.C.A.F shortly after the outbreak of war. He instructed in Canada for about two years prior to going overseas. He was born in Long Beach, California.
Lieut. Muriel Clarke, a sister of the flier, is serving overseas. A physio-therapist, she is serving in a Canadian military hospital with the Canadian Army Medical Corps. Another sister, Gwen, is in eastern Canada.

PsionicAnt
Jul 16, 2001
in b4 op gets murdered by crackhead squatters

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



op put a big fat turd in one of the toilets and take a pic

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

The dreams will tell you what to do now. The worst ones are when you are awake.

Slanderer
May 6, 2007
Judging by the fact that the backyard isn't full of waist high weeds, I'd bet someone is still coming around to clear it out and make sure no one has looted the place

STABASS
Apr 18, 2009

Fun Shoe
Have fun getting haunted dummy

turn it up TURN ME ON
Mar 19, 2012

In the Grim Darkness of the Future, there is only war.

...and delicious ice cream.

Nessa posted:

If someone was still living there, then you would expect to see at least a few things moved around. Dishes on the counter, things being swept up, that sort of thing. You'd also expect a clear path to the back door that doesn't involve ducking under low hanging branches, and a path to the garbage cans in the alley.

I had left a note in the mail box, so if someone is coming by every couple of weeks to retrieve the mail, then they will get my note and hopefully contact me.

It does however, seem curious. If you were to leave your home to go live in a nursing home, wouldn't you at least make sure the back door is fully closed? And why would you need to latch the screen door on the inside?

Anyway, I did find an article about her brother who died overseas in 1944. I guess he was a spitfire pilot!

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=56407863

Counter point, it could just be a really lazy person or industrious goon.

END OF AN ERROR
May 16, 2003

IT'S LEGO, not Legos. Heh


Yo how'd you get that pic of that locked lock?

PsionicAnt
Jul 16, 2001

Nessa posted:

giant hole in the screen.

Ramsus
Sep 14, 2002

by Hand Knit
I urbexed a number of old asylums on the east coast including greystone in jersey

pretty cool stuff, and when I was there we found a bunch of dolls hung in the chapel with markings on them

turns out a really lovely horror movie was filmed there and they just left some of their junk laying around

Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

Tiny Lowtax posted:

Yo how'd you get that pic of that locked lock?

The same way I got the pictures of the front porch, by popping the camera through the massive hole in the screen door.


Slanderer posted:

Judging by the fact that the backyard isn't full of waist high weeds, I'd bet someone is still coming around to clear it out and make sure no one has looted the place

But the backyard is pretty full of weeds? There doesn't seem to be much for grass in the yard. It looks to be all weeds, with some flowers and other plants that have spread around the whole thing.

But if someone is coming around, I hope they find my note and get back to me!

Disco_Bandit
Sep 8, 2006
The Cabela's flyer on the counter shows it's at least been entered since 2014, when Cabela's finally opened a store in Edmonton.

www
Aug 4, 2010

i saw him, i saw the slenderman

A CRUNK BIRD
Sep 29, 2004
Really interesting thread with pictures of an old kitchen. Fascinating since you refuse to break in and get more pics and look through stuff. Riveting poo poo. Retard.

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a shiny rock
Nov 13, 2009

poop on the house

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