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too many loving glowing LEDs OP, it's obnoxious
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Jastiger posted:A good idea. Yeah I can agree with that. I think the difference between our attitudes is that I think there are worse things a person can be than a low-level racist. I would rather spend time in the company of someone who is implicitly racist against white people than a stereotypical "SJW." Having spent time in the company of both, my differences with the racist are usually much easier to work out.
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Aug 27, 2015 15:46
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Applewhite posted:I think the Washington Redskins have been somewhat of a victim of shifting cultural trends, and that the term was not as insulting when the team was named as it has come to be in modern times. Consider that "Oklahoma" translates to "red people" in Choctaw and no one is complaining about that. I'd be a lot more sympathetic to the team's argument for tradition if I wasn't so sure that the Redskins would pick up and leave Washington the second a different city made them a better deal, as is true of all major sports teams. Maintaining tradition only matters as long as it's the most profitable option.
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Aug 27, 2015 15:46
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Applewhite posted:Yeah I can agree with that. and sometimes the 'racists' are just making a sweet joke. its one of those do i or dont i hakuna matata situations. theres no right andswer except to just keep up the vibe without letting it get to u. peace
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Aug 27, 2015 15:47
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cram me sideways posted:AMERICA: ACT I uh no ACT I is when the pilgrims run away from the jew kings of europe and invite the brown people over to try eating food
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Aug 27, 2015 15:48
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Naerasa posted:I'd be a lot more sympathetic to the team's argument for tradition if I wasn't so sure that the Redskins would pick up and leave Washington the second a different city made them a better deal, as is true of all major sports teams. At the bottom of it, sports teams are the literal embodiment of the same instinct that makes humans racist in the first place, and I guess that, to me, anything else they do doesn't really matter because it's all geared around pushing the same pleasure buttons in our brains.
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Aug 27, 2015 15:50
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women are weaker than men. black people commit more crime. the US military is and has always been full of terrorists. imo easily offended people should gently caress off
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Aug 27, 2015 15:55
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Applewhite posted:Yeah I can agree with that. Never been around a sjw to that extent. What do they do? Are they pc gone mad? And do they vote republican?
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Aug 27, 2015 16:05
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Jastiger posted:Never been around a sjw to that extent. What do they do? Are they pc gone mad? yes SJWs are PC gone mad. The only thing that stops them from voting republican is the fact that republicans are unpopular in their circles for reasons they don't fully understand.
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Aug 27, 2015 16:10
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Applewhite posted:yes SJWs are PC gone mad. The only thing that stops them from voting republican is the fact that republicans are unpopular in their circles for reasons they don't fully understand. explain
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Aug 27, 2015 16:11
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People just need something to be grumpy about, OP, it's no big deal.
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Aug 27, 2015 16:11
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it's like skynet basically
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Aug 27, 2015 16:12
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dogcrash truther posted:People just need something to be grumpy about, OP, it's no big deal. jastinger is.... heh... on the spectrum you see....
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Aug 27, 2015 16:13
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Applewhite posted:yes SJWs are PC gone mad. The only thing that stops them from voting republican is the fact that republicans are unpopular in their circles for reasons they don't fully understand. i would argue that the PC movement is a result of a liberal agenda to strip meaning and objective truths from our culture and to create victim classes to exploit politically
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Aug 27, 2015 16:14
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dad gay. so what posted:i would argue that the PC movement is a result of a liberal agenda to strip meaning and objective truths from our culture and to create victim classes to exploit politically dont you loving dare
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Aug 27, 2015 16:15
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dad gay. so what posted:i would argue that the PC movement is a result of a liberal agenda to strip meaning and objective truths from our culture and to create victim classes to exploit politically You cheeky fucker.
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Aug 27, 2015 16:16
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Applewhite posted:I think the Washington Redskins have been somewhat of a victim of shifting cultural trends, and that the term was not as insulting when the team was named as it has come to be in modern times. Consider that "Oklahoma" translates to "red people" in Choctaw and no one is complaining about that. That's an interesting point, however American Indian rights groups have been trying to get the name changed since the 1940s. There's no real historical significance of the name either, as the name "Washington Redskins" had nothing to do with actual American Indians. It just sounded cool at the time.
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dad gay. so what posted:i would argue that the PC movement is a result of a liberal agenda to strip meaning and objective truths from our culture and to create victim classes to exploit politically 
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Aug 27, 2015 16:16
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i believe choice as such is its own end, and the index of all value
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Aug 27, 2015 16:17
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dad gay. so what posted:i would argue that the PC movement is a result of a liberal agenda to strip meaning and objective truths from our culture and to create victim classes to exploit politically 0/10 doesn't incorporate blame to millennials
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Aug 27, 2015 16:18
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mind the walrus posted:0/10 doesn't incorporate blame to millennials i believe the children are our future, treat them well, and let them lead the way
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Aug 27, 2015 16:19
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dad gay. so what posted:i would argue that the PC movement is a result of a liberal agenda to strip meaning and objective truths from our culture and to create victim classes to exploit politically What is the pc movement. Was MLK part of that? Integrating lunch counters? Equal pay for women? Universal healthcare? I think to some point you're right but it's a very low bar, especially when the alternative doesn't want a bar at all and wants revision to carry the day. Basically even if being pc was evil and victim creating, is it better than a culture that crushes all dissent and minority opinion?
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Aug 27, 2015 16:21
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dad gay. so what posted:i believe the children are our future, treat them well, and let them lead the way Millennials are no longer children.
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Aug 27, 2015 16:22
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Jastiger posted:What is the pc movement. Was MLK part of that? Integrating lunch counters? Equal pay for women? Universal healthcare? its better to call a spade a spade and move on (i will probably be called racist for using this colloquialism) (thats what PC's do) (also millenials who dont even know how to use outlook  )
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Aug 27, 2015 16:24
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its those mac vs. pc commercials but backwards??
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Aug 27, 2015 16:25
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when things get a bit contentious with me and my friends, i just say to them 'look to the stars, bowen'. because arent we all just star dust in the end?
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Aug 27, 2015 16:26
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Orkin Mang posted:explain The worst of SJW culture and the worst of the Conservative Right are both acting out the same base instinct to hate those different from themselves. SJWs' outspoken, violent demonization of republicans is not rooted in a desire to see actual social justice any more than the racial supremacy movements of yesteryear were born from any sort of real "science." Science and Social Justice are both being exploited as a thin justification to hate unpopular people with impunity, and just because your particular prejudice happens to be "du jour" doesn't make you a good person. SJWs and Radical Conservatives aren't on opposite ends of the spectrum any more than rabid fans of opposing sports teams are "opposites." So for this reason I hate both of them and that's why I'm the good guy you should listen to.
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Aug 27, 2015 16:26
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I wonder if SJW's enjoy doggystyle and anal sex, or if their median position is slightly more puritan.
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Aug 27, 2015 16:29
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Orkin Mang posted:when things get a bit contentious with me and my friends, i just say to them 'look to the stars, bowen'. because arent we all just star dust in the end? I'm gonna pound you into star dust, hippy 
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Aug 27, 2015 16:30
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Ehhj. A spade a spade leads to ignoring historic or institutional realities. It creates the Cadillac welfare queen, the thug, the in god we trust on money being a founding fathers thing. It's all bullshit and if we all just "called a spade a spade " as shorthand for "justifying my passing knowledge of a thing " we have problem. I see pc type behavior combating this Racist. Edit: Applewhite mad about sjws, and that makes sense. But what's different between say, Eugene Debs and a sjw?
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Applewhite posted:The worst of SJW culture and the worst of the Conservative Right are both acting out the same base instinct to hate those different from themselves. SJWs' outspoken, violent demonization of republicans is not rooted in a desire to see actual social justice any more than the racial supremacy movements of yesteryear were born from any sort of real "science." hm. seems true. hate seems to be the problem. hate and the love of power.
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Orkin Mang posted:when things get a bit contentious with me and my friends, i just say to them 'look to the stars, bowen'. because arent we all just star dust in the end? faaaaarrrrts in the wind..... all we are is faaarts in the wiiiiinnndd
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Also lots of stuff about horseshoe theory, and mimetic isomorphism.
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Jastiger posted:Ehhj. A spade a spade leads to ignoring historic or institutional realities. It creates the Cadillac welfare queen, the thug, the in god we trust on money being a founding fathers thing. absolutely nothin at all
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Aug 27, 2015 16:31
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Jastiger posted:Edit: Applewhite mad about sjws, and that makes sense. But what's different between say, Eugene Debs and a sjw? IDK, who is Eugene Debs?
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Aug 27, 2015 16:32
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love does not compel them, but vanity and hate.
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Aug 27, 2015 16:33
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Orkin Mang posted:love does not compel them, but vanity and hate. I hate people like that so much. But I love hating them, so really I'm driven by love.
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Aug 27, 2015 16:34
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Eugene Debs was a huge socialist thay wanted unions to take the means of production. He was jailed for his trouble and ran unsuccessfully for president twice.
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Aug 27, 2015 16:35
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Jastiger posted:Eugene Debs was a huge socialist thay wanted unions to take the means of production. He was jailed for his trouble and ran unsuccessfully for president twice. i think you are a gay fag
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Jastiger posted:Eugene Debs was a huge socialist thay wanted unions to take the means of production. He was jailed for his trouble and ran unsuccessfully for president twice. Desiring social justice, even being a warrior for it, does not an "SJW" make, imo. I still don't know enough about Eugene Debs to say for sure, but since it looks like he was actually trying to accomplish something, however misguided, I'm going to go out on a limb and say he's not an SJW. "SJW" when used as a sneer word refers specifically to those who don't actually desire social justice as much as they invoke (admittedly real) social injustices as an excuse to treat others badly and feel superior. Its not about changing society as much as it is making a fashion statement. Martin Luther King was a social justice warrior, but he was not an "SJW" as it is used in popular parlance. Social Justice is good and important, just like science is good and important. When you try to invoke evolutionary science to "prove" Black people are less evolved, you're bad. When you try to invoke the double standard by which women are treated in society to "prove" that a guy sitting with his legs spread out on the subway is committing sexual assault, you are also bad.
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