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Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
i can confirm some of these bugs and features but not all of them

the worst one is anything to do w/ text formatting tho like the url thing. if you copy text from a website and paste it into notes it tries to paste it w/ the formatting from the website which is unbelievably awful cause it doesn't just post like html it has to translate the html to notes rich text which is not the same as normal rich text. protip: always paste poo poo into notepad and recopy it before pasting into notes.

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Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
lotus notes 8+ is an emulated notes 6/7 client running on top of eclipse.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
sametime is pretty good but its because its a way simpler program. you can write and distribute plugins for it via eclipse too which is cool.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

qntm posted:

in notes, if you double-click on some text in a received email, it instantly changes the email window into an email composition screen, so that you can modify the text, recipients, subject line attachments of the email which you received

because why would you want to select text word by word

double clicking any document in notes puts the document into edit mode if available.

the reason edit mode is available on received emails is because there are quirky differences in text selection based on which mode ur in.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
notes is a very old product. it predates the internet and always on connectivity. For this reason there are many features that are designed to allow you to work offline. including having a local copy of your email database.

in order to secure your mail database, notes offers many features that were ahead of its time including encryption that was relatively easy for the user to use. The maildb is encrypted with a users public key and then when they open notes they enter a password to decrypt the associated private key and then decrypt the mail db. ok that's fine. that's pretty cool if its the year 1990 and you need to have your data but also have it be secure. great.

well..... heres the thing. the user's private key is not only used for decrypting local dbs, its used for authentication against the server. so the server has a copy of your public key in its directory that it matches to ur user account. All notes based communication uses this public/private key auth. that means no passwords. but wait! we used a password when we logged into notes! That password must be on the server somewhere, right?!? nooope. it only exists as the decryption key to the id file that stores your private key. that id file only exists locally. and the password is only good for that id. if you have multiple copies of your id, like say, on multiple computers you might use, you can and will have different passwords for each id file.

hmm. ok but this is 1990, who has more than 1 computer?? no its the year 2015 and this is still how notes works. on top of that all notes services that you access thru non-notes methods (webmail/http/sametime) have a separate password that is stored in the directory.

Yes! that means every single notes user has at a minimum 1 id file password 1 "internet" password and then X number of additional id file passwords based on how many copies of their id file they have. Also the private keys expire and when private keys are renewed they are renewed only on the id file the user is currently using but we aren't going to get into that because its as much of a headache as you think and everyone just certifies user ids for 100 years so they don't have to deal with it.

ok. ok. so maybe its not quite that bad any more "you mean they got rid of id files and everything uses the directory password?" haha no you silly person. now we have the id vault! the id vault is a database on the server where user id files are stored. every time a user is created, their id file is stored in the vault. (oh I forgot to mention previously there was no default store for ids so if a user loses the id you had to recreate it) The vault will synchronize passwords with any client 8.5.1 or higher. It even syncs the id file pw with the internet password so most of the time now the user's passwords across all of notes should be the same. This actually does work irl ive seen it and its a huge lifesaver, but its still dumb as gently caress.

tune in next time when we discuss the mysteries of the administration process and the nightmare of user renames.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
by default notes doesn't have a preview pane so to mark something as read you either open it, hit insert (which toggles read/unread), or click edit -> unread marks -> mark selected as read.

if you enable the preview pane there is also and option to have it mark as read when previewed.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Wild EEPROM posted:

My favorite is how long search takes for anything.

Like, a good 30 seconds to search through 400 emails.

this probably means your mail db isn't indexed.

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Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

SO DEMANDING posted:

that's lotus notes

it's a standard thing, though current versions changed the hieroglyphics to little keychain pictures. sometimes one of the keychain pieces is one of the old hieroglyphics!! little notes easter egg there, hah hah!



also it randomizes the amount of XXXXX's as you type, and you cannot copy/paste in the password field

so that's notes 8.5.1+. you can tell cause it has the reset password section. if you click the + it doesn't actually give the user a way to reset their password automatically, it shows them the text that the administrator put into the reset password instructions which is usually just "call the help desk"

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