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kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true
Well, we have our first casualty of the season, 7 days before it's scheduled to begin, so I guess that means it's time for the coaching carousel thread to open back up.



Fired/Hired

pre:
School           Old               Interim                     Hired              Notes
Illinois         Tim Beckman       Bill Cubit                  Bill Cubit         ; Interim
Maryland         Randy Edsall      Mike Locksley               DJ Durkin          ; DC from Michigan
UNT              Dan McCarney      Mike Canales & Chris Cosh   Seth Littrell      ; OC from UNC
USC              Steve Sarkisian   Clay Helton                 Clay Helton        Drunk; Interim
SCar             Steve Spurrier    Shawn Elliott               Will Muschamp      Retired; DC from Auburn
UCF              George O'Leary    Danny Barrett               Scott Frost        Retired; OC from UO
Miami            Al Golden         Larry Scott                 Mark Richt         ; fired from Georgia
Minnesota        Jerry Kill        Tracy Claeys                Tracy Claeys       Retired; Interim
Virginia Tech    Frank Beamer                                  Justin Fuente      Retiring; From Memphis
Hawaii           Norm Chow         Chris Naeole                Nick Rolovich      ; OC from Nevada
Missouri         Gary Pinkel                                   Mark Odom          Retiring; Was DC
Louisiana Monroe Todd Berry        John Mumford                Matt Viator        ; From McNeese St.
Iowa State       Paul Rhoads                                   Matt Campbell      Being fired; From Toledo
Syracuse         Scott Shafer                                  Dino Babers        Being fired; From BGSU
Tulane           Curtis Johnson                                Willie Fritz       ; From Georgia Southern
Virginia         Mike London                                   Bronco Mendenhall  ; From BYU
Memphis          Justin Fuente                                 Mike Norvell       To Virginia Tech; OC from ASU
Toledo           Matt Campbell                                 Jason Candle       To Iowa State; Was OC
Georgia          Mark Richt                                    Kirby Smart        ; Was DC at Alabama
Rutgers          Kyle Flood                                    Chris Ash          ; DC from tOSU
ECU              Ruffin McNeill                                Scottie Montgomery ; OC from Duke
BYU              Bronco Mendenhall                             Kalani Sitake      To Virginia; DC from Oregon State
BGSU             Dino Babers                                   Mike Jinks         To Syracuse; RB at TTU
Georiga Southern Willie Fritz                                  Tyson Summers      To Tulane; DC from Colorado State
Texas State      Dennis Franchione                             Everett Withers    Retired; From JMU
UTSA             Larry Coker                                   Frank Wilson       ; RB from LSU
So Miss          Todd Monken                                   Jay Hopson         New OC at Tampa Bay; Alcorn State
Illinois         Bill Cubit                                    Lovie Smith        ; Tampa Bay HC
Links

fired
Tim Beckman fired for forcing players to play concussed.
Randy Edsall fired for not being good.
Dan McCarney instantly fired after losing to an FCS team 66-7.
Steve Sarkisian was drunk on the job.
Steve Spurrier called it a career.
George O'Leary retired during a terrible season.
Al Golden fired for being terrible.
Jerry Kill: Carpe Diem!
Frank Beamer done
Norm Chow: really old, but wouldn't fall on his sword, fired
gently caress Cancer (Gary Pinkel)
Todd Berry is a guy that was fired.
Paul Rhoads, you're fired, but think you could still coach this week?
Scott Shafer, also fired but still coaching
Curtis Johnson fired as part of department cleanup
Mike London, mercy killing
Georgia pulls a Nebraska, fires Mark Richt
In move that surprises absolutely no one, Rutgers cleans house, fires Kyle Flood
Ruffin McNeill fired after 5-7 season
Dennis Franchione's career ends with a wet fart
UTSA fires Larry Coker, 3 weeks too late

hired
Tracy Claeys is too convenient to not hire.
Hawaii announces hiring of former QB
Bill Cubit, meh?
Hokies make the first good hire, Justin Fuente
ISU hires hot up-and-coming coach, Matt Campbell
Clay Helton retained
Scott Frost gets a job
DJ Durkin turns a good defensive year into an HC position
Toledo tired of ISU stealing its coaches, hires one as HC
Georgia falls in love with Kirby Smart
Miami has Richt fall in their laps
Memphis pulls an OC in Mike Norvell
Missouri panics, settles on unproven, on campus Barry Odom
Virginia outkicks their coverage, hires Bronco Mendenhall
Dino Babers goes to team with uglier orange unis
Rutgers hires Chris Ash from conference Rival
Another former TTU player, Seth Littrell, now HC at UNT
hahahhahahahahahahaha
Mike Jinks jumps from RB coach to HC
Tulane hires spread triple coach Willie Fritz
ECU names Duke OC Scottie Montgomery HC, proving that they had no idea what they were doing.
ULM plucks Matt Viator from McNeese State. I guess he was good?
BYU hires a Mormon with a great name, Kalani Sitake
Georgia Southern moves quick, pulls DC Tyson Summers from Colorado State

kayakyakr fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Mar 21, 2016

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mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
As an Illinois "fan" whose wife is a Bama alum I think this season might be the worst ever. Maybe Illinois can hire Kiffin?

Grittybeard
Mar 29, 2010

Bad, very bad!
Paul Rhoads at Iowa State has to be in trouble eventually doesn't he?

Raku
Nov 7, 2012

Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change.

Roll Tide

mastershakeman posted:

As an Illinois "fan" whose wife is a Bama alum I think this season might be the worst ever. Maybe Illinois can hire Kiffin?

Doubtful. They'd have to pay him more than they can afford for it to actually make him money since he's still under his USC buyout, and as far as prestige goes it'd be a step down with less chance to win or be seen as successful.

Ed Orgeron tho

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Raku posted:

Doubtful. They'd have to pay him more than they can afford for it to actually make him money since he's still under his USC buyout, and as far as prestige goes it'd be a step down with less chance to win or be seen as successful.

Ed Orgeron tho

He was horrible at Ole Miss

drunk leprechaun
May 7, 2007
sobriety is for the weak and the stupid

mastershakeman posted:

He was horrible at Ole Miss

But passable at USC. I just want him back in coaching damnit.

Real Name Grover
Feb 13, 2002

Like corn on the cob
Fan of Britches
FWIW Here's a thing Pete Thamel through together recently. Some stretches, but:

https://www.campusrush.com/comprehensive-look-at-college-football-coaching-job-market-1316055543.html?xid=cr_social

americanzero4128
Jul 20, 2009
Grimey Drawer
I mean, we can't do much worse than Beckman, right? I hear there's a Ron Zook available.

Raku
Nov 7, 2012

Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change.

Roll Tide

mastershakeman posted:

He was horrible at Ole Miss

i don't see your point

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007



quote:

17. Rich Rodriguez, Arizona: He is reaching the point where he can't do much more at Arizona, as he won the Pac-12 South last year. Virginia Tech would be a natural fit if Frank Beamer steps down. Miami would also be captivating considering the amount of local talent that would perfectly fit his system.

Va Tech from Arizona seems like the very definition of "Lateral Move".

Dilber
Mar 27, 2007

TFLC
(Trophy Feline Lifting Crew)


Al golden to Illinois.

WHO SAYS NO?

illinois

Dilber fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Aug 28, 2015

Ungratek
Aug 2, 2005


Mike London's seat at UVA is on fire curren...wait I forgot he got a new contract for going 5-7 gently caress

Sash!
Mar 16, 2001


DJExile posted:

Va Tech from Arizona seems like the very definition of "Lateral Move".

I'd wager there's a bigger power vacuum in the ACC that a successful VT could fit into. That conference is basically Florida State and a big downhill tumble. Pac 12 has more competition to dominate one of the divisions.

I could be wrong, but "win the ACC and get into the playoffs" seems easier for a good VT than doing the same in the Pac 12 for Arizona. It's got its appeal for a coach.

drunk leprechaun
May 7, 2007
sobriety is for the weak and the stupid

Sash! posted:

I'd wager there's a bigger power vacuum in the ACC that a successful VT could fit into. That conference is basically Florida State and a big downhill tumble. Pac 12 has more competition to dominate one of the divisions.

I could be wrong, but "win the ACC and get into the playoffs" seems easier for a good VT than doing the same in the Pac 12 for Arizona. It's got its appeal for a coach.

He's from the area too. Well WV so nearby. But yeah even as a VT fan unless we drive a dump truck of money to his house going from Zona to here would be a little but of a head scratcher.

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART
Is there any indication that anyone other than Bud Foster is taking the VT job, anwyay? I thought he was the king-in-waiting there.

Athanatos
Jun 7, 2006

Est. 1967
The timing on Beckman is crazy. Illinois gave 90 minutes notice to the media for the press conference and wouldn't allow questions over the phone. That isn't really enough time for anyone to get there other than Champaign "media."

drunk leprechaun
May 7, 2007
sobriety is for the weak and the stupid

Pakled posted:

Is there any indication that anyone other than Bud Foster is taking the VT job, anwyay? I thought he was the king-in-waiting there.

Beamer wants his kid or Foster to get the big job, but there's a rift between him and Whit (the current AD who we got from Cincy a few years back). There are rumors Whit is gonna look outside the program when the time comes but nothing is anything more than rumors right now. Rich Rod's name does keep popping up though.

sweet thursday
Sep 16, 2012

Over/Under on Illinois getting a new coach??

Grittybeard
Mar 29, 2010

Bad, very bad!

Athanatos posted:

The timing on Beckman is crazy. Illinois gave 90 minutes notice to the media for the press conference and wouldn't allow questions over the phone. That isn't really enough time for anyone to get there other than Champaign "media."

At least they moved quickly I guess? I mean it's easy to make fun of them because everything Illinois but it seems like when someone realized how bad things were they got rid of him right away.

Cnidario
Mar 22, 2013

drunk leprechaun posted:

Beamer wants his kid or Foster to get the big job, but there's a rift between him and Whit (the current AD who we got from Cincy a few years back). There are rumors Whit is gonna look outside the program when the time comes but nothing is anything more than rumors right now. Rich Rod's name does keep popping up though.

Is Shane Beamer any good?

drunk leprechaun
May 7, 2007
sobriety is for the weak and the stupid

Jalleyfish posted:

Is Shane Beamer any good?

No clue. He's a good recruiter and an ok position coach. Most fans are just kinda over the Beamer name at this point thought and don't want such a clear case of nepotism.

Man the other VT peeps need to get in here and correct what I'm sure are some factual errors of mine haha.

HooverDam
Aug 16, 2004

DJExile posted:

Va Tech from Arizona seems like the very definition of "Lateral Move".

As an ASU fan I'm just hoping Holgorsen is awful this year, gets canned and RichRod does the prodigal son thing. I don't think he (or anyone) can turn UofA into a National power, but I don't even want them to be a regular 8-10 win team, makes me too damned nervous. Get another one of the crappy Stoops' down there!

Sash! posted:

I'd wager there's a bigger power vacuum in the ACC that a successful VT could fit into. That conference is basically Florida State and a big downhill tumble. Pac 12 has more competition to dominate one of the divisions.

I could be wrong, but "win the ACC and get into the playoffs" seems easier for a good VT than doing the same in the Pac 12 for Arizona. It's got its appeal for a coach.

All valid points. And while for most people living in Tucson is probably more appealing than Blacksburg, he is from that region so maybe he'd be OK w/ it from a lifestyle/amenity point of view.

Thermos H Christ
Sep 6, 2007

WINNINGEST BEVO
Our offensive coordinator Assistant Head Coach for the Offense, Shawn Watson, is most definitely on the hot seat. Last season ended with the literal worst-ever offensive performance in a bowl game. If we see another game go down like Arky or TCU did last year, he will very possibly be fired on the spot. Watson ascended to OC at Louisville when Strong fired his predecessor midseason, so the man is capable of it.

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true

Thermos H Christ posted:

Our offensive coordinator Assistant Head Coach for the Offense, Shawn Watson, is most definitely on the hot seat. Last season ended with the literal worst-ever offensive performance in a bowl game. If we see another game go down like Arky or TCU did last year, he will very possibly be fired on the spot. Watson ascended to OC at Louisville when Strong fired his predecessor midseason, so the man is capable of it.

Please do not fire him before we play on Thanksgiving. Wickline is presumed to be decent and I'd prefer not to see that.

Thermos H Christ
Sep 6, 2007

WINNINGEST BEVO

kayakyakr posted:

Please do not fire him before we play on Thanksgiving. Wickline is presumed to be decent and I'd prefer not to see that.

I have to grudgingly agree that it would have been unfair to fire him after a season in which he was dealt such a crap hand. Which is a shame because I do not have faith that he is gonna work out. We're in a situation where we have to give him a chance to fail more before we can move on.

I dunno what Cumbie and Meachem got paid to turn TCU's offense in to a monster overnight, but we paid Watson and Wick something like $1.3 mil combined for an offense that got 59 yards in a bowl game. I doubt we want Wick stepping in to call plays, either. He schemes a lot of the run game, but I don't think he's ever run an actual offense. It's looking like he was named OC purely in an attempt to defraud Okie Lite of buyout money. Lots of people think that if Watson is dismissed in the middle of things it will be Jeff Traylor who gets promoted. He was theoretically brought in to coach tight ends and special teams, but Strong talked a lot about how he was also being brought in for his knowledge of spread concepts. Before joining us he was a fairly legendary Texas high school coach with a 175-26 record at his last stop.

Real Name Grover
Feb 13, 2002

Like corn on the cob
Fan of Britches
After the 2010 season, Pelini "encouraged" Shawn Watson to find a new job, and he finally got a lifeline at Louisville. Dude overthinks his playcalling something fierce.

Emanuel Collective
Jan 16, 2008

by Smythe

sweet thursday posted:

Over/Under on Illinois getting a new coach??

Probably not likely until after the season. Mike Thomas's AD tenure is an absolute disaster (he's also dealing with brutal accusations of racism, sexism, and abuse in other programs). So many Illini programs are facing serious allegations that he HAS to be fired if Illinois wants to avoid major NCAA violations. On the other hand, the U of I is quite literally leaderless right now: the chancellor and several of the people under the chancellor have been forced out in scandal. There's nobody around to fire Mike Thomas and clean house.

In the meantime, Mike Thomas is the moron who initially poo-poohed these allegations in the first place. The U of I board had to hire an external review committee because Thomas himself said he thought the allegations were bullshit and stood behind Beckman. So Thomas is probably going to keep the rest of the coaching staff around until he's forced out.

e: reminder that Simon Cvijanovic. the ex-Illini who went public with Beckman's bullshit, also claimed that Cubit ordered him to stop taking his anti-depressants under threat of revoking his scholarship.

Emanuel Collective fucked around with this message at 03:41 on Aug 29, 2015

Catfish Stevens
Jul 9, 2001

WHO DAT? Who gives a damn?
Is Les Miles in any trouble? As someone that interacts and knows many LSU fans it's kind of a bipolar experience.

Real Name Grover
Feb 13, 2002

Like corn on the cob
Fan of Britches
Yeah, it'd be unfair to bring someone in to coach with an unfamiliar staff. Plus Cubit has a bunch of HC experience and had a couple of decent seasons at WMU.

poo poo, it's probably an upgrade.

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

#1 Pelican Fan

drunk leprechaun posted:

But passable at USC. I just want him back in coaching damnit.

He's coaching at LSU.

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

#1 Pelican Fan

Catfish Stevens posted:

Is Les Miles in any trouble? As someone that interacts and knows many LSU fans it's kind of a bipolar experience.

Probably not unless under 10 wins becomes the new norm.

Raku
Nov 7, 2012

Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change.

Roll Tide

Kibner posted:

He's coaching at LSU.

without press conferences every week it doesn't count

Catfish Stevens
Jul 9, 2001

WHO DAT? Who gives a damn?

Kibner posted:

Probably not unless under 10 wins becomes the new norm.

He does play juggernaut Miss St week 2, surely no way we could regress. Should be taxed after a close win over McNeese.

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004


Zook
Beckman

Illini needs to hire Coach O or some off-brand Pellini brother.

Raku
Nov 7, 2012

Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change.

Roll Tide
Coaches Illinois could easily hire away from their current position despite not matching pay: Jay Gruden

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004


Illini should hire J Leman who won't let an injured player back onto the field until he has communed with Christ to heal him

gvibes
Jan 18, 2010

Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

R.D. Mangles posted:

Illini should hire J Leman who won't let an injured player back onto the field until he has communed with Christ to heal him
Prayed for an above-joke level football program. No change.

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
What's Will Muschamp up to these days

Thermos H Christ
Sep 6, 2007

WINNINGEST BEVO

Benne posted:

What's Will Muschamp up to these days

Angry in Alabama

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korrandark
Jan 5, 2009

Benne posted:

What's Will Muschamp up to these days

Auburn's D-coordinator

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