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stabbing dean ambrose | 18 | 12.50% | |
throwing poop on nxt | 31 | 21.53% | |
nazis | 47 | 32.64% | |
shut up | 48 | 33.33% | |
Total: | 144 votes |
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I am genuinely depressed tonight. Raw did not help. I am genuinely concerned Seth will lose both titles, leading to a Shield reunion I will manage to not be excited for. I like The New Day, The Dudleys, The WrestleBros, and The Wyatts including Giant Scary Babyman Braun Strowman. I also liked Owens/Cesaro, genuinely, even though there's nothing behind the feud. Am I crazy or did Ambrose get the most face heat of the night except maybe The Dudleys?
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2015 04:27 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 10:29 |
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Mukaikubo posted:wrest No they don't we're literally coming off of two really good (one loving GREAT) shows in one weekend. Raw was stinky butts but can we stop acting like WWE never does anything good? The PPVs are almost always quite good.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2015 04:30 |
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Hace posted:John Cena got the most heat No he didn't, there was barely any face pop for him when he came out. I was really taken aback by it actually.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2015 04:31 |
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Just reiterating Raw was loving awful but I personally don't say the entire company is bad because of one bad Raw but that's just me thanks And before someone says "All Raws are bad" I think on average they've been pretty solid recently, this one just happened to be the hottest of garbage
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2015 04:34 |
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Hace posted:Iiiiii remember a huge reaction but maybe I'm making that up? I mean there was a reaction but I wouldn't call it a huge face reaction, I can't remember any reaction like it. The most face heat Cena got was playing off Seth's heeling. When Cena came out he said "They're going easy on me tonight" referring to the "JOHN CENA SUUUUUUUUUCKS~" singing which is 100% true but the pro-Cena side seemed to be taking it a bit easy themselves.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2015 04:41 |
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Doo-Wop Duodenum posted:If I was there live I sure wouldn't have had the energy I can get that too I'm jussayin' it was a very strange reaction to cap off a very strange and bad night.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2015 04:44 |
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Hace posted:Yeah this is what I was feeling, people piped down reeeeeeal fast after the sting hit haha why am talking about measuring entrance pops That could be true but if Cena was #1 Ambrose was comfortably #2 in Face Heat tonight.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2015 04:46 |
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Dimebags Brain posted:It only took me until the Spooky Ghost for me to figure out this was where we were headed. Welcome to the rest of us Foochs. Actually I will only be Not Excited for it because in my darkest timeline one of the men holding a title is Sting, and there wouldn't be enough of a gradual build to it to strengthen the markout. I'd even be okay with Seth dropping both titles if Seth won but got cashed in on by Sheamus. Just please god don't have the titleholders be Cena and Sting, the latter even for 30 seconds. I mean yes Seth will have lost both titles but he'll have done it pulling double duty wrestling Cena first so that parts kind of whatever. All some of you guys ever do is proclaim how everything is dogshit, ignore anything good in between, then as soon as something genuinely bad happens go I TOLD YOU SO. I called tonight's Raw dogshit and guess what, it actually takes people aback and go "MAN that show was bad", why? Because I don't do it every week. Also I genuinely think that if we rate on a 1-10 scale and let's say I rated that Raw a 2.5 which sounds about right, if you took out all the Ziggler bullshit it'd probably be a 5. It cannot be overstated how loving awful that angle is, it is literally everything lovely about wrestling storylines. About the only thing keeping it from being legitimately my worst feud of all time is that Ziggler and Rusev can wrestle at least.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2015 05:43 |
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Big Coffin Hunter posted:sting isn't winning the world title In a world where they had him face Rollins and verbally fellate HHH instead of helping Dean and Roman against The Wyatts I refuse to conclusively rule out any stupidity.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2015 05:47 |
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Codependent Poster posted:Sting should be the champ because he is cool and good. It's not like they'll use Seth to give the rub to anyone else, so might as well let Sting have his good watch moment. Get out of here. Sting in 2015 sucks the moment he cuts a promo and Seth Rollins is legitimately really, really good at his job, and I don't know why some people are acting like he sucks. The biggest criticisms you can direct at Seth are his awful taste in women and being a dumbass who acts like a lovesick teenager offscreen. Chris James 2 posted:I hope Big Show helps Dean and Reigns Dean isn't a bad friend though, that's been Roman if anything. Big Coffin Hunter posted:then you should already know that triple h is winning the world title here Still better than Sting.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2015 05:52 |
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Big Coffin Hunter posted:if he was heel sure, but I dunno man I think Cena telling Seth "The Authority are assholes who are just going to use you" means that WWE would not under any circumstances want HHH to be seen as a face in that scenario. Cena is the voice of how WWE wants us to react, and his promo tonight absolutely cut Seth as the victim of his own stupidity and The Authority as manipulative douchebags.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2015 05:56 |
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Codependent Poster posted:You're a jaded smark if you don't want Sting to win. Let the guy have a good moment in WWE so they have something to use for when he goes into the Hall of Fame. Yes if he's a heel, yes, yes, and yes. I have never given a gently caress about Sting when he's doing anything that involves talking. He is cool in feuds where he can be silent and spooky. That's it. Kane is at least still somewhat believable as a monster, at least to the point that I find him winning less laughable than Sting. HHH doesn't wrestle often enough for me to hate him and when he has wrestled as a part-timer he's been quite good. Cena, much as I loathe him being Godking of WWE, is really really good. Sheamus would be fine, and better than Sting. Hace posted:On the other hand Big Haitch was put over by The Vigilante Sting as a noble hand-shaking badass who is insanely better than Seth, and even himself. I thought about this but Sting has never been a good promo ever ever ever and possibly didn't have much of a script, and like I said Cena is more a Vince Avatar than Sting would ever be so that's a thing. And it really would be Seth as the victim if The Authority hosed him over somehow, because he put HHH over but simply said "It's my turn now", he didn't call HHH a run down old man like he did to Sting. Not to mention it would prove Cena right: The Authority just uses people..
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2015 06:08 |
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Peanut President posted:Also people in this thread wanting HHH to be champion. Literally all I said is it'd be better than Sting and I stand by that.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2015 06:11 |
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Hace posted:They're both awful, but a universe exists where you can root for Sting Nope! Not in a world title feud in 2015. I can't think of an analogy that is not REALLY distasteful so I will simply say it is the peak of the "lesser of two evils" idea. Peanut President posted:I know what a Triple H championship reign looks like, you don't want that. So do I. I have not taken a single week off watching since November 1998. Not only was I THERE for all of them, I never quit. My threshold for pain is that high. I want it more than Sting. Luigi Thirty posted:You know those 20 minute long "I am the coolest and the best ever" Seth Rollins promos? Imagine those but delivered by Triple H. Every week. For all eternity. Imagine Sting doing it.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2015 06:18 |
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It is also worth noting I never watched WCW during its existence and while I can say in hindsight they did some good stuff I wish we could stop talking about it because I just do not care. I realize that likely affects my perception of the situation.Codependent Poster posted:Get the gently caress outta here. 2015 Sting sucks, I am sorry to be the one to have to tell you this. He's old, unlike Taker he has no presence or mystique because the second he opens his mouth it kills anything about the gimmick, he is probably even less capable of putting on good part-timer matches than Taker at this point, and I sooner buy Taker as a badass, probably his closest analogue in terms of old broken down men who can barely go looking for the last moments to cap off their careers, as a threatening presence than Real Estate Steve. I'm sorry, but not for one second do I want one of the best young talents in the world to be jobbed out to Sting when he technically survived Cena and Lesnar. Sting is like Taker only without any of the things that still allow Taker to make magic every once in a while. Chris James 2 posted:my loving god Don't you loving dare give me poo poo for looking for hope ever again, pal. I have SEEN THINGS. I would accept a Sting title reign if it was a dirty win. Clean? gently caress off. SamuraiFoochs fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Sep 1, 2015 |
# ¿ Sep 1, 2015 06:33 |
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I'm legitimately sorry to have to be Scott Keith-esque about Sting here by the way. I'm sure some of you guys feel about Sting how I feel about Taker. I can respect that. TBH there are lots of things I'm upset about non-wrestling related and even then, in terms of wrestling talents. personal poo poo and being a dumbass aside, Seth Rollins is probably the #2 guy I think deserves success (who hasn't gotten enough of it yet) behind Dean Ambrose (not counting NXT guys). He is SO loving good, and the idea of him losing a world title to Sting in 2015 to me personally is just...eeeeeurgh.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2015 06:47 |
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BrigadierSensible posted:In the stupid Ziggler/Rusev feud, I can't tell which is worse. The sexual politics of it all, where women are nothing but fickle sluts who need a man to validate them, and also possessive harpies that won't let men gently caress around, (Even when said woman was a powerful, respected manager figure), or just how aggressively un-entertaining it is. Not boring, or bland, but actively bad. It really is just awful. In terms of misogyny I'm starting to think it rivals anything Attitude Era. Probably worse, because at least the AE was consistent in its horrificness, whereas this aggressively dogshit feud is being juxtaposed with the disingenuous Divas Revolution angle and the legitimately great women's division in NXT which makes this all the more offensively bad.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2015 07:00 |
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This also pisses me off in the sense that Dolph was legitimately a nice dude when I met him who wasn't a patronizing rear end in a top hat just because I'm in a wheelchair so to loathe his on-screen character so much is all the more disappointing. And Dolph is capable of being an awesome babyface! As someone said, look at the ADR feud! This entire feud and character is just gross.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2015 07:15 |
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Shine posted:Nobody cares. I thought we were cool
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2015 07:50 |
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Prozach posted:I love how this feud has reached a stage where Ziggler is considered a legitimately bad person for letting it go through and someone who is a scumbag for even being a participant. It might literally be my most hated feud of all time. Also I will shut up about Sting now, WOO or whatever.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2015 08:00 |
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Muddy Burphy posted:Foochs, I appreciate your typically never ending optimism, but you sure used a lot of words to say that the Monday Night War is still real to you. No, I just don't think Sting is any good now really.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2015 14:23 |
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Jetfire posted:I just wanted to mention that I loved how Stephanie was like "Seth, this isn't about the statue" and Seth's like "You're RIGHT! STING GIVE ME BACK MY STATUE" Yeah I laughed at that too.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2015 16:05 |
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Muddy Burphy posted:Maybe it was just bad writing, but I saw it as an example of how both Rollins and the Authority are just using each other. Oh I 100% saw it as characterization, I just thought it sounded hilarious.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2015 16:38 |
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bradzilla posted:People keep mentioning Triple H and the title, was it implied that he would be next in line to challenge or are you guys just being goons They're mostly being goons but not completely. I more took it as planting seeds for a heel HHH/face Rollins feud down the line after Seth drops the titles and The Authority ousts him.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2015 16:56 |
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Hace posted:Sting put over HHH as being better than everybody including himself, and Steph said HHH is also the best and even better than Seth!! Doesn't mean it'll happen for the title. I've always thought HHH/Rollins would happen and that feud would own. I just think it'll be after Seth drops the titles.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2015 17:04 |
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Even if the statute isn't up, wouldn't the time that's passed make it a lot harder to prove, especially since in Vince's case there's no physical crime/evidence? Snuka on the other hand...
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2015 21:47 |
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Alaois posted:nobody on the forums is saying any of these things, these things exist only in your lovely brain my friend I've said I think Seth is losing but that's because WWE booking, not because of who he's dating.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2015 23:56 |
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Xenoletum posted:FWIW they go pretty balls to the wall for the MSG shows, and everyone is expected to be on the top of their game for these. Even though they're not televised it's still one of the most important shows of the year for them. And this one's on the Network.
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# ¿ Sep 2, 2015 07:48 |
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Chris James 2 posted:Sales of Arrow's shirt raised nearly $229k for Emily's Care (Canada children's hospice) AND they aren't ruling out bringing him back for #OneMoreMatch Am I the only one legit hype for this? Also charity money always owns.
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# ¿ Sep 3, 2015 03:34 |
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I hope it's Rowan, then Rowan turns on the faces, THEN they take time building the Shield Reunion. This is my dream scenario which means instead the faces will go over, the feud will end, Dean will turn on Roman for no reason and I will hate life.
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2015 22:30 |
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TheHoosier posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aGKA_3JXfU I was not expecting to laugh that hard, but goddamn.
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# ¿ Sep 6, 2015 03:50 |
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The Shield's theme would legit own for this
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# ¿ Sep 6, 2015 04:05 |
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BUBBA GAY DUDLEY posted:Someone already got the best one for Big Boss. That is THE GREATEST.
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# ¿ Sep 6, 2015 04:56 |
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Fibby Boy posted:House Show trip report: Kids own hard. How over was Ambrose?
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2015 03:34 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 10:29 |
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Fibby Boy posted:The end of the Bray/Roman match featured Harper come out to help. Then Strowman showed up (I loving lost my poo poo at that.). It looked like Roman was gonna lose. Then Ambrose's music hit. The screams and cheers could be heard at the apartment complex about a quarter mile away. People everywhere love Ambrose.
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2015 16:08 |