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Sep 1, 2015 18:57
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GalacticAcid posted:If you Google almost any Democratic senator's name right now, the top sponsored result is from stopthebadirandeal dot com, with deep links to one-click call Senators Booker, Cardin, Manchin, and Bennett. Apparently "engaging" i.e. replying to, a promoted tweet costs the advertiser between $0.50 and $4.00, use that information as you wish.
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Sep 1, 2015 18:58
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I feel like everyone is just glossing over the fact that having a personal server instead of the one the government wants you to use just allows you to ignore any form of oversight. Oh and then she [may?] have destroyed all the evidence by wiping the server, which is exactly why she wasn't supposed to have an independent server to begin with.
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Sep 1, 2015 19:02
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The Shortest Path posted:It's a joke about all the HILLARY BENGHAZI stuff that resurged with the email scandal. That shouldn't be a surprise. The e-mail server thing was explicitly blown up by Trey Gowdy's Benghazi committee's fishing expedition. The e-mail scandal and Benghazi have been integrally linked from birth.
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Sep 1, 2015 19:05
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HootTheOwl posted:I feel like everyone is just glossing over the fact that having a personal server instead of the one the government wants you to use just allows you to ignore any form of oversight. Oh and then she [may?] have destroyed all the evidence by wiping the server, which is exactly why she wasn't supposed to have an independent server to begin with. The "government" wanted her to use whatever server she so chooses, it was standard operating procedures since HW Bush's administration. She was "supposed" to have an independent server in that the rules explicitly allowed it and condoned it.
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Sep 1, 2015 19:06
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HootTheOwl posted:I feel like everyone is just glossing over the fact that having a personal server instead of the one the government wants you to use just allows you to ignore any form of oversight. Oh and then she [may?] have destroyed all the evidence by wiping the server, which is exactly why she wasn't supposed to have an independent server to begin with. It showed bad judgement and a bunker mentality, but it won't sink her campaign.
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Sep 1, 2015 19:06
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HootTheOwl posted:I feel like everyone is just glossing over the fact that having a personal server instead of the one the government wants you to use just allows you to ignore any form of oversight. Oh and then she [may?] have destroyed all the evidence by wiping the server, which is exactly why she wasn't supposed to have an independent server to begin with. Man, then I bet people are really mad about the Bush administration using RNC servers, and then wiping all the data without turning it over to anyone! They aren't? Oh. Well. IOKIYAR strikes again!
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Sep 1, 2015 19:10
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Rygar201 posted:Man, then I bet people are really mad about the Bush administration using RNC servers, and then wiping all the data without turning it over to anyone! Also it is the unclassified state department email system that people are complainting she didn't use that was completely hacked by the Chinese.
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Sep 1, 2015 19:12
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And now Chris Coons makes it 33-2 in favor of the Iran deal among Senate Democrats. One more and the Senate cannot override the veto, eight more and the bill won't pass.
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Sep 1, 2015 19:12
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Nintendo Kid posted:The "government" wanted her to use whatever server she so chooses, it was standard operating procedures since HW Bush's administration. She was "supposed" to have an independent server in that the rules explicitly allowed it and condoned it. Unless you ask the state department or nara. This was a change from the Bush administration.
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Sep 1, 2015 19:18
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Of course my favorite detail about all this is that the House Committees investigating these emails are also storing them on unclassified servers.
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Sep 1, 2015 19:19
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http://harvardlawreview.org/2015/03/adam-smiths-first-amendment/ Some more quality tears about the Lochner poo poo. quote:The First Amendment seems to have been transformed into a straitjacket for our institutions of democratic governance.  no poo poo really?
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Sep 1, 2015 19:25
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This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!
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Sep 1, 2015 19:29
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I want to see if I understand this: Obama's talking about climate change in Alaska despite paving the way for Shell's drilling, but he did so because the locals' oil revenue is falling and they're looking for fresh sources of income. Is that about what happened?
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Sep 1, 2015 19:31
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HootTheOwl posted:I feel like everyone is just glossing over the fact that having a personal server instead of the one the government wants you to use just allows you to ignore any form of oversight. Oh and then she [may?] have destroyed all the evidence by wiping the server, which is exactly why she wasn't supposed to have an independent server to begin with. Zero secretaries of state since have used state department servers. Powell was the only other to actually use email, Albright and Rice did not use email.
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Sep 1, 2015 19:32
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SousaphoneColossus posted:Who is the second opposing Democrat other than Schumer? Google didn't turn up any actual list. Bob Menendez.
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Sep 1, 2015 19:32
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hobbesmaster posted:Zero secretaries of state since have used state department servers. Powell was the only other to actually use email, Albright and Rice did not use email. Powell used hotmail as his private, personal account. No poo poo.
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Sep 1, 2015 19:34
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Joementum posted:Bob Menendez. Isn't he facing a corruption trial or something When is that all supposed to kick off
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Sep 1, 2015 19:35
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Wanderer posted:I want to see if I understand this: Obama's talking about climate change in Alaska despite paving the way for Shell's drilling, but he did so because the locals' oil revenue is falling and they're looking for fresh sources of income. Is that about what happened? Eh, I think this is more about the White House not being in complete control of DoI permitting. Besides, its not like Shell has had much success in the arctic. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/04/magazine/the-wreck-of-the-kulluk.html
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Sep 1, 2015 19:36
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Joementum posted:And now Chris Coons makes it 33-2 in favor of the Iran deal among Senate Democrats. One more and the Senate cannot override the veto, eight more and the bill won't pass. Does anything significant happen if the bill does not pass?
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Sep 1, 2015 19:37
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Azuth0667 posted:Does anything significant happen if the bill does not pass? The Senate is likely to act first and, if it doesn't pass there it's possible that it will not be taken up by the House, saving some members from having to vote on it. Then again, Boehner may bring it to the floor to give his conference an easy vote on disagreeing with the President.
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Sep 1, 2015 19:40
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Wanderer posted:I want to see if I understand this: Obama's talking about climate change in Alaska despite paving the way for Shell's drilling, but he did so because the locals' oil revenue is falling and they're looking for fresh sources of income. Is that about what happened? No "he", or rather the Interior Department, approved the drilling because Shell holds a lease and fully complied with the law in preperation for drilling operations.
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Sep 1, 2015 19:43
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HootTheOwl posted:Unless you ask the state department or nara. This was a change from the Bush administration. Unless you ask them what? It's been policy for over 20 years that a private server is a-ok/
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Sep 1, 2015 19:45
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Today in Alaska, Obama visited the Snow City Cafe whose menu features the "Obamalette" with "Barackoli", Spam, and cheese. According to the press pool report, he did not order it.
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Sep 1, 2015 19:46
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Joementum posted:Today in Alaska, Obama visited the Snow City Cafe whose menu features the "Obamalette" with "Barackoli", Spam, and cheese. I don't understand how he could possibly resist.
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Sep 1, 2015 19:47
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Just keeping up the proud presidential tradition of refusing to eat broccoli.
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Sep 1, 2015 19:48
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That sounds like a culinary assassination attempt.
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Sep 1, 2015 19:50
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haveblue posted:Just keeping up the proud presidential tradition of refusing to eat broccoli. Context for those of us too young: quote:President [H.W.] Bush declared today that he never, ever, wants to see another sprig of broccoli on his plate, whether he is on Air Force One or at the White House or anywhere else in the land. Also you can tell it is dated because U.S. News & World Report is being referenced but not in relation to college rankings.
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Sep 1, 2015 19:51
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Didn't he puke on a Japanese ambassador because they made him eat broccoli?
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Sep 1, 2015 20:03
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It's weird seeing goons react to criticisms about Clinton's handling of her email being 'Well, Bush('s administration) did it too!' as if that makes it ok/right. Yeah, as Zeroisanumber said, Powell used Hotmail, and that was dumb as poo poo. So is having your email server run by a tech firm in a bathroom closet in a loft. Both scenarios are dumb as gently caress, and it's ok to admit that. e: How can a person not like broccoli?!
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Sep 1, 2015 20:08
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pathetic little tramp posted:Didn't he puke on a Japanese ambassador because they made him eat broccoli? I demand he provide fresh material for Lloyd Bridges style lampooning!  Holy poo poo, some goons here probably haven't seen Airplane or either of the hot shots movies. 
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Sep 1, 2015 20:09
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pathetic little tramp posted:Didn't he puke on a Japanese ambassador because they made him eat broccoli? That was Japanese Prime Minister Kiichi Miyazawa. HW over-exerted himself on the golf course earlier in the day and was jet-lagged all to hell and gone. A little rich food and wine on top of that and he was ruining a fine suit.
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Sep 1, 2015 20:13
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:It's weird seeing goons react to criticisms about Clinton's handling of her email being 'Well, Bush('s administration) did it too!' as if that makes it ok/right. Really the larger issue is that we've hobbled our government's ability to use technology. With inflexible hiring systems and out-source-it-all mentalities we've placed our government in a position where it sucks at IT. Meanwhile, Americans are realizing that much of what the federal government does would be done better digitally. There are pockets of success, but we could have a much more efficient and effective government if we allowed it to strengthen its ability to act in a digital era.
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Sep 1, 2015 20:13
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:It's weird seeing goons react to criticisms about Clinton's handling of her email being 'Well, Bush('s administration) did it too!' as if that makes it ok/right. Is that how her server was run? Cause physical security doesn't translate to digital security. After all, it seems to have been hacked less than the government's servers.
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Sep 1, 2015 20:13
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:It's weird seeing goons react to criticisms about Clinton's handling of her email being 'Well, Bush('s administration) did it too!' as if that makes it ok/right. There was nothing done wrong.
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Sep 1, 2015 20:16
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Obama still uses his blackberry doesn't he? That's kinda my larger point.
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Sep 1, 2015 20:16
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Trabisnikof posted:Obama still uses his blackberry doesn't he? If by blackberry you mean some horrible General Dynamics secure phone that looks kinda like one, yeah.
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Sep 1, 2015 20:19
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Nintendo Kid posted:There was nothing done wrong. I'm not saying anything was done wrong, I'm saying a lot of it adds up to be dumb poo poo and dumb poo poo that your predecessor does doesn't excuse your actions.
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:I'm not saying anything was done wrong, I'm saying a lot of it adds up to be dumb poo poo and dumb poo poo that your predecessor does doesn't excuse your actions. It isn't dumb poo poo, it's on the order of taking some staples home from the office. The dumb poo poo is getting caremad about irrelevant office procedure.
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