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Nintendo Kid posted:If by blackberry you mean some horrible General Dynamics secure phone that looks kinda like one, yeah. Obama actually moved to a real BlackBerry 8900 (heavily customized), cause that phone was horrible. Still can only call 10 people however. He can't forward emails or receive attachments on the phone either.
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:I'm not saying anything was done wrong, I'm saying a lot of it adds up to be dumb poo poo and dumb poo poo that your predecessor does doesn't excuse your actions. Your meta concern trolling over GOP concern trolling isn't particularly endearing or cute.
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In fact it's boring and amateur. Take some pride in your work.
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Trabisnikof posted:Really the larger issue is that we've hobbled our government's ability to use technology. With inflexible hiring systems and out-source-it-all mentalities we've placed our government in a position where it sucks at IT. The Fed government is relegated to lovely contracted IT because it can't pay a salary of more than $157k. That really hurts recruiting when you are competing against Silicon Valley companies.
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Phone posted:Your meta concern trolling over GOP concern trolling isn't particularly endearing or cute. I don't know how to respond to this, you're giving this too much thought. Dumb poo poo happened. That's what I'm saying. That's it. I'm not sure why that, or even the notion of a opinion that is anywhere critical of Clinton, is construed and dismissed as trolling.
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Shifty Pony posted:The Fed government is relegated to lovely contracted IT because it can't pay a salary of more than $157k. That really hurts recruiting when you are competing against Silicon Valley companies. Could they limit what Silicon Valley pays on national security grounds?
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This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!
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Trabisnikof posted:Context for those of us too young: lmao this gag makes alot more sense now instead of just being a prophecy of his son's administration https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiUnoO25Qzk&t=85s
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Shifty Pony posted:The Fed government is relegated to lovely contracted IT because it can't pay a salary of more than $157k. That really hurts recruiting when you are competing against Silicon Valley companies. Not to mention that congress, especially this congress would throw a loving tantrum over anyone wanting to make things more efficient (government can't do anything right), or more secure (they continually denied the requested additional funds for more security for ambassador when the state department asked for it).
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Sep 1, 2015 20:49
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:I don't know how to respond to this, you're giving this too much thought. Dumb poo poo happened. That's what I'm saying. That's it. Why do you personally care about Hilary's email server? What do you think are the big things to talk away from the entire ordeal?
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Sep 1, 2015 20:50
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Shifty Pony posted:The Fed government is relegated to lovely contracted IT because it can't pay a salary of more than $157k. That really hurts recruiting when you are competing against Silicon Valley companies. 157k? What a weird number to put the ceiling at, and it's even weirder if you're putting a restriction on yourself that will undoubtedly hinder your ability to hire talent.
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DeusExMachinima posted:Could they limit what Silicon Valley pays on national security grounds? No?
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A Winner is Jew posted:Not to mention that congress, especially this congress would throw a loving tantrum over anyone wanting to make things more efficient (government can't do anything right), or more secure (they continually denied the requested additional funds for more security for ambassador when the state department asked for it). And it would be a giant line item expense instead of being hidden in millions of contracts spread throughout every agency.
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Phone posted:Why do you personally care about Hilary's email server? What do you think are the big things to talk away from the entire ordeal? If you're objecting to my criticism of a politician, then you're in the wrong thread. It's D&D's USPOL, we make fun a politicians and their dumb poo poo. Welcome aboard!
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:If you're objecting to my criticism of a politician, then you're in the wrong thread. Oh man, that card Obama likes MUSTARD on his sandwiches. Am I doing it right? Am I appropriately making fun of politicians for doing completely OK things?
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:157k? What a weird number to put the ceiling at, and it's even weirder if you're putting a restriction on yourself that will undoubtedly hinder your ability to hire talent. Well besides two very well paid VA doctors, the President gets the highest pay at 400k a year,
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Shifty Pony posted:And it would be a giant line item expense instead of being hidden in millions of contracts spread throughout every agency. The secret to getting it approved would be change the line item title from IT Security or whatever to Honorary National Security Protector of the Digital Constitution. In Honor of 9/11. Who would object to such a great american hero?
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Phone posted:Oh man, that card Obama likes MUSTARD on his sandwiches. We are going to have to agree to disagree, I guess. e: edited to remove my immature swipe. BetterToRuleInHell fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Sep 1, 2015 |
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Sep 1, 2015 20:59
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Shifty Pony posted:The Fed government is relegated to lovely contracted IT because it can't pay a salary of more than $157k. That really hurts recruiting when you are competing against Silicon Valley companies. You think those IT contractors are getting paid $157k? Cause they're not. Salary isn't even the be-all-end-all, but just one in a long list of problems hiring tech talent. The hiring pipelines aren't really designed to be able to hire qualified tech people, because they're refreshed at a rate to almost mandate obsolete information. The jobs themselves have requirements and preferences that make your college-dropout programming ninja unable to qualify even if they wanted to "serve their country". Then pile on the fact that even if IT drives most federal interactions, even if IT has the possibility to revolutionize government services, like hell are you ever going to get to engage in any of those ideas or programs. We need a GSA for technology that can have the non-standard hiring practices and funding mechanisms to engage the talent we need. It is out there. If you look at the huge success of civic coding/hacking events, you'll see there are patriotic techies out there.
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:The secret to getting it approved would be change the line item title from IT Security or whatever to Honorary National Security Protector of the Digital Constitution. In Honor of 9/11.
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:157k? What a weird number to put the ceiling at, and it's even weirder if you're putting a restriction on yourself that will undoubtedly hinder your ability to hire talent. It basically starts with "nobody in the federal government can make more than the president" and works it's way down through a series of "this lower position cannot make more than this other higher position " until you hit $157100 for the GS schedule. Note that's total compensation including performance bonuses and overtime. Fun side effect: the federal 401k-style retirement system has insanely low expense ratios because there are no multi-million dollar hotshot fund managers.
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:The secret to getting it approved would be change the line item title from IT Security or whatever to Honorary National Security Protector of the Digital Constitution. In Honor of 9/11. Congress. They don't even want to fund the government as it stands now.
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Nintendo Kid posted:Well besides two very well paid VA doctors, the President gets the highest pay at 400k a year, Apparently there are some people over at the TVA making quite a bit more. If you consider that to be part of the government. It kinda is.
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Trabisnikof posted:We need a GSA for technology that can have the non-standard hiring practices and funding mechanisms to engage the talent we need. It is out there. If you look at the huge success of civic coding/hacking events, you'll see there are patriotic techies out there. There already is one. It's the GSA. EDIT: Although the usual government hiring weirdness still applies, unfortunately. (I totally agree with you, of course, and it's clear from the OPM not even encrypting any of their incredibly valuable personnel files that there's a long way to go.) Combed Thunderclap fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Sep 1, 2015 |
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 We need a national wage schedule where the highest compensation possible is the same as the President's.
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Shifty Pony posted:It basically starts with "nobody in the federal government can make more than the president" and works it's way down through a series of "this lower position cannot make more than this other higher position " until you hit $157100 for the GS schedule. This of course leads to the problem that only people who are already independently wealthy can afford to serve in public office.
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There's also the fact that good luck hiring away from silicon valley when everybody has mandatory drug testing, which is loving over the fibbies something fierce.
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It would be utterly amazing and worth my vote if a candidate (for either party) got their poo poo together (or rather, had someone else get their poo poo together and hand them the bundle) and make a core plank a thorough overhaul of all government IT. If nothing else, the utterly complete way it was splayed out for the China hack should provide all the impetus this needs. But of course, politician = technological idiot, without fail.
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OAquinas posted:It would be utterly amazing and worth my vote if a candidate (for either party) got their poo poo together (or rather, had someone else get their poo poo together and hand them the bundle) and make a core plank a thorough overhaul of all government IT. Obama tried, but he didn't get very far.
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OAquinas posted:It would be utterly amazing and worth my vote if a candidate (for either party) got their poo poo together (or rather, had someone else get their poo poo together and hand them the bundle) and make a core plank a thorough overhaul of all government IT. Speaking as someone whose entire career revolves around trying to convince the DoD not to spend money on systems that won't work for them, you have no idea exactly how loving awful the government is at IT and how much of a complete overhaul of how we do everything we would need to do to make it work. I would also vote for said politician, but I have no faith that I'd see meaningful change in my lifetime.
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Pope Guilty posted:There's also the fact that good luck hiring away from silicon valley when everybody has mandatory drug testing, which is loving over the fibbies something fierce. Can't remember which but either the CIA or FBI majorly relaxed their drug test standards because they were choking their pool of qualified applicants.
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So Jeb Bush went on a 5 minute tear today in Spanish, crying about Trump Among the comments (translated by Mac Caputo) quote:He attacks me every day. He personalizes everything.... If you’re not totally in agreement with him, you’re an ‘idiot,’ you’re ‘stupid,’ you have ‘low energy,’ blah, blah, blah Yes, he did say "blah blah blah" in Spanish The whole thing (this and the English bits) is a grown rear end man having a temper tantrum and it's amazing. Because he doesn't just flip out about Trump, he started screeching about Politico reporting he is having money troubles, and the rest of the press going after things he said instead of "policy" (that would be the stuff he said on Iraq, women's health care, and immigration) Basically a little brat who has always had everything handed to him isn't getting deferred to and feted, and he's pissed about it.
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How are u posted:Can't remember which but either the CIA or FBI majorly relaxed their drug test standards because they were choking their pool of qualified applicants. FBI requested to do it
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Fried Chicken posted:So Jeb Bush went on a 5 minute tear today in Spanish, crying about Trump Why in Spanish?
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Fried Chicken posted:Basically a little brat who has always had everything handed to him isn't getting deferred to and feted, and he's pissed about it. Reminder that his PAC is literally called "Right to Rise."
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Fried Chicken posted:So Jeb Bush went on a 5 minute tear today in Spanish, crying about Trump As opposed to him whining about the Asians? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4na13UwOoc
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chitoryu12 posted:Why in Spanish? Trying to pull in the Latino vote like his brother did.
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Shifty Pony posted:
I don't think it includes bonuses
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Fried Chicken posted:So Jeb Bush went on a 5 minute tear today in Spanish, crying about Trump Ha ha ha Trumps incessant blitzkrieg of public trolling is bearing fruit I see. U mad Jeb Bush, etc.
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From Wikipedia: Ohio Congressman Mike Turner vowed to fight the change, commenting that "I’m certain [Obama] didn’t notify President McKinley’s descendants, who find this outrageous." (Both of McKinley's daughters died in early childhood, leaving no descendants.
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