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Could someone do a plot summary for Persona 1? I feel like the game is kind of expecting you to be familiar with the previous game's plot, while still being in the dark about what the old protagonists have to do with the new ones. Provided Ape is okay with it, anyway.
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Mraagvpeine posted:You titled the video as "Valkyria Chronicles 3: Extra Edition". SSNeoman posted:The LPs are merging together. We must pray for Nyx to save us from this fate. Should be fixed now! RickVoid posted:Could someone do a plot summary for Persona 1? I feel like the game is kind of expecting you to be familiar with the previous game's plot, while still being in the dark about what the old protagonists have to do with the new ones.
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Sep 11, 2015 23:35
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I'm a shameful fan of the new Persona games, but i played Persona 2: EP many years ago and while i understood none of the story due to it being a sequel to a game I didn't even know existed (and also it was a poorly translated russian version made by pirates shut up getting games legally was almost impossible and super costly back then) it still loving owned. I'm sad that we'll never see another persona game in this style 
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Sep 11, 2015 23:54
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I'll try and post a decent non-spoilery summary of P1 when I get home tonight. Fun fact: Persona 1 is still the top-selling Persona game!
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Sep 12, 2015 01:36
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From what I can remember about Persona 1: a group of friends play the Persona game, they and everyone else in the room are given Personas, demons attack, there was a split path (one is the canon story and the other goes into something about an Ice Queen), and they find out some rear end in a top hat is trying to rule the world and is using their friend in some manipulative way. That's all I can remember.
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Sep 12, 2015 02:42
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Mraagvpeine posted:From what I can remember about Persona 1: a group of friends play the Persona game, they and everyone else in the room are given Personas, demons attack, there was a split path (one is the canon story and the other goes into something about an Ice Queen), and they find out some rear end in a top hat is trying to rule the world and is using their friend in some manipulative way. That's all I can remember.
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Sep 12, 2015 02:54
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You guys are more-or-less right. The reason the Snow Queen quest was dropped from the american is more likely time constraints than a single boss fight (there's just as bad in the main quest). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE5AI70jNgo Megami Ibunroku Persona came out in 1996 on the Playstation 1. A spin-off of the long-lasting Shin Megami Tensei series aimed at teenagers (hence the High School setting), it was fairly popular when it came out. The gameplay was a simplified version of the SMT gameplay, although by now it has aged a lot and feels very clunky. It still has first-person dungeons, phases of the moon changing how the monsters react and what's available in the shops and requires lots of grinding. The PSP remake, unfortunately, doesn't really change that gameplay, it jsut puts a fresh new coat of paint on it. If you want to experience the story without the gameplay, there's the Drama CD or the manga adaptation, both fairly good and fan-translated. Anyway, the story takes place in the fictional city of Mikage, which kind fo feels like a rusting industrial town. The game starts with the MC and his friends play a game known as Persona, kind of like calling Bloody mary, and are mysteriously struck by lightning and meet Philemon in their dreams. After waking up, their teacher (Miss Saeko) sends them to the hospital to get checked. They decide to use this as a chance to visit their friend Maki Sonomura, who's sick. She gets attack, and while Maki is in the ICU everything goes wrong and demons invade the city. Their Persona awakens and they try to find out what's going on. The bad guys in the game turns out to be a rich rear end in a top hat by the name fo Takahisa Kandori, an ambitious and ruthless man who wants to use the occult to gain greater power. Eventually, after much twists and turns and a trip to an alternate universe, the heroes defeat Kandori and his persona Nyarlathotep (like the Lovecraft dude) and learn what's up with their friend Maki. After graduation they all go their separate ways in life. The Snow Queen quest is an alternate storyline that can be activated early on by unsealing a creepy mask that had been hidden in the school. The Mask then posesses your teacher and freezes the entire school, planning to turn the entire world into an eternal night (P3 style). To defeat her, you have to complete three Towers full of bullshit that make it seem as if the game designed by fuckign Cavia, and if you want to unlock all the Final Personas you need to comple them in reverser order from hardest to easiest (I still can't believe I pulled that off once). It should be noted that Yukki joins the party only in the Snow Queen quest, as in the normal story she stays behind to protect the school.
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Sep 12, 2015 03:50
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I suppose I'll check out the manga to refresh myself on that story.
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Sep 12, 2015 04:48
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Alright, finished reading the manga (that's missing the last volume  ). It definitely tells the story of the first Persona game and even manages to tie in the Snow Queen plot; one thing that happened in the manga that I don't remember happening in the game was the main character having a twin brother, but other than that it has all the characters and story elements from the game. The artwork is okay, but the fight scenes are kinda hard to read and understand what's happening. Overall, it was a better experience than the game.
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Sep 13, 2015 16:49
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Update New episode out now! Weird things are going on in Club Zodiac. But screw that, let's go to the casino! This little hell hole can cost you a crap ton of money. Luckily I'm playing this game on an emulator and the power of save states is going to save me a lot of money. Sadly we can't spend an entire episode in the casino so we have to check out Club Zodiac either way. There's Sugimoto, the new leader who's trying to get rid of Eikichi, who apparently got his hands on another Rhadamantys. Apparently that guy is so weak, you can beat him without really fighting him so that's really nice. If you choose to fight him .... well, you done goofed. Mraagvpeine posted:Alright, finished reading the manga (that's missing the last volume Sounds like a good read. Going to look into that one some time soon. MonsieurChoc posted:Stuff
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Sep 13, 2015 19:21
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Apepresident posted:That's an awesome summary! I'm going to add that one into the OP, if that's okay with you. Hahaha, that's cool.  Be aware, I left a few things unspoiled in case people wanted to play the game/read a manga/watch one of the let's plays on the youtubes. Edit: Oh yeah, the greed fairy is also a returning NPC from Persona 1. She had a different design but was basicaly the same person there. MonsieurChoc fucked around with this message at 12:02 on Sep 14, 2015 |
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Sep 13, 2015 21:48
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MonsieurChoc posted:You guys are more-or-less right. The reason the Snow Queen quest was dropped from the american is more likely time constraints than a single boss fight (there's just as bad in the main quest). It's possible (using a Gameshark or cheat codes) to access the SQQ in the US version. It wasn't actually removed, per se, just made inaccessible. A large part of the start of the quest is translated, with later dialogue just becoming a scramble of meaningless characters, suggesting that yes, time was the major factor in its removal. It's still technically playable, but good luck getting anywhere.
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Sep 14, 2015 17:44
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Update New episode out now! Sugimoto is gone, however he was nothing more than a simple henchman. So it's time to head on over to Cuss High and find that student president Yasuo. That highschool is a pretty weird place: We're once again forced to run all over the place just to figure out where Yasuo is hiding. While we're at it we can also start collecting some tarrot cards, once of which is the rare fool card. The requirements for that card are a bit absurd: You need to raise angriness twice and eagerness three times in a SINGLE conversation. Once that's done you have a 1/32 chance of getting that golden question. If you plan to play this game on a console and not on an emulator then just don't do it. It took me about 20 minutes with fast-forwarding and save states, I don't want to know how long it takes without these features ...
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Sep 15, 2015 00:58
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The answer is always 
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Sep 16, 2015 02:11
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Could you have felt the door if the room were dark? I mean, you wouldn't be seeing it directly that way.
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Sep 16, 2015 23:45
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Also I don't know what they were going on about. Tatsuya did a pretty good imitation of Lisa 
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Sep 19, 2015 00:38
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Welp. I knew this game was cursed.
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Sep 23, 2015 21:19
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I heard a rumor that the apepresident would come back to the thead this weekend with two episodes and an awesome story of how he overcame the LP curse.
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Sep 24, 2015 04:12
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RickVoid posted:I heard a rumor that the apepresident would come back to the thead this weekend with two episodes and an awesome story of how he overcame the LP curse. Who's willing to pay the Kuzunoha Detective Agency to spread this?
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Sep 24, 2015 05:08
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THE LP CURSE HAS BEEN BROKEN! jk, had a tight schedule but everything should be returning to normal now. Anyways, here's the long overdue new episode Now that we're out of the Bomb Shelter it's time to find Yasuo. As it turns out Yasuo has some connections to, who would've guessed it, Joker but there's also a group of powerful people, called the Masked Circle, involved in all of this. Seems like Joker isn't the only villain in this game. Once we're out of Cuss High one of our party members became famous all of a sudden. Seems like somebody was nice enough to spread a rumour to give us some more extra cash. Or maybe this is just part of a gigantic evil ritual.... Nah, that's dumb.
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Sep 27, 2015 20:54
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Apepresident posted:THE LP CURSE HAS BEEN BROKEN! ... Close enough. Rumors are true!
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Sep 28, 2015 01:38
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DID YOU KNOW!? Lisa's dad, Steven Silverman, is a parody of renowned rear end in a top hat Steven Seagal! Also, I forgot during the Persona 1 summary, but Rumormonger Toro is another returning character from the first game: he was a boss fight in the Snow Queen quest. His persona is Mara, the dick chariot. At the end of the video, we meet up with Maki Sonomura, who's story was pretty important in Persona 1. It seems her look has changed a lot since then. 
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Sep 28, 2015 01:49
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Persona has always been willing to tackle difficult subjects like homosexuality, suicide, clashes in culture/age and other issues. I kind of wonder how they games are perceived in their home country, considering they're pretty touchy about cultural critique.
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Sep 29, 2015 00:02
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Update New episode out now! Before we set off to become famous let's do some optional tasks. Since we already unlocked Kounan we also have access to the Abandoned Factory. This is pretty much the only dungeon in the game which is going to be always open for your visits and you'll be meeting a lot of demons you've encountered thus far. Not only can this location be used to grind some more levels, if need be, but it's also needed to unlock some legendary weapons as well as some extra areas later down the line, so we'll be coming back a couple of times. After that it's off to the Mu Casino again. This time we're visiting some video game themed backroom, which spans 4 floors. It's essentially a labyrinth and if there's one thing I suck at, it's dealing with labyrinths.... MonsieurChoc posted:Also, I forgot during the Persona 1 summary, but Rumormonger Toro is another returning character from the first game: he was a boss fight in the Snow Queen quest. His persona is Mara, the dick chariot. Having the dick chariot Mara as your persona, aka "other self", is actually telling us quite a lot about this guy. Speaking of Mara, I'd suggest reading up on it's background story. This way the dick design makes a lot more sense than one might otherwise think. Plus it's always fun to read a semi-serious story while having a picture of a demon dick right next to it.
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Sep 30, 2015 00:10
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I heard a fella say that the sweepstakes come up after 300 steps. And man are you overleveled or something? It seems like the enemies give you almost no exp. Hmmm Tatsuya's brother has a grudge against arsonists. General Leo is an arsonist. Hmmmmmmmm. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM... Seraphic Neoman fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Oct 4, 2015 |
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Oct 4, 2015 04:53
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SSNeoman posted:
It's really easy to level up in Innocent Sin's PSP version, even in the hard mode.
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Oct 4, 2015 05:29
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Update New episode out now! Time to head on over to Giga Macho, the gigantic CD store where apparently evil things are going down. Evil such as an interview of a female teenage band .... doesn't sound that bad now that I think about it. There we also learn that the famous Ginji Sasaki is behind this rumour and it seems like he's also part of the Masked Circle. There's to many witnesses to beat his rear end outright so we'll have to wait until next time. Atleast we can check out the beginning of Aoba Park, one of my favourite dungeons in this game. We have flowers that can talk, the ghost of an idol which we need to kill to get it's bra .... you know just the usual insanity. Funny thing: The actual idol is still alive and right now spends her time in a restaurant in Aoba. So .... whose bra did we just give that guy .... guess we'll never know. Tactless Ogre posted:It's really easy to level up in Innocent Sin's PSP version, even in the hard mode. But as far as I can recall in some of the upcoming dungeons there are some jumps in levels (for the demons) so it should balance itself out (hopefully) SSNeoman posted:Hmmm Tatsuya's brother has a grudge against arsonists. General Leo is an arsonist. Hmmmmmmmm. Kind of amazing how many clues they hid behind optional dialogue.
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Oct 5, 2015 23:27
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I think it's okay to post this now? It's a short animated trailer for Persona 2 from the Eternal Punishment Bonus Disc. Despite showing two EP characters for a few seconds, it's mostly Innocent Sin stuff that's shown. It doesn't fit with the events of the game 1:1, and as a trailer it doesn't reveal anything, but some might want until after the game's finished to watch it (hence I put it in a link instead of embedded).
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Oct 6, 2015 05:24
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I believe the Atomic/Nuclear family of spells got renamed into Almighty for later games (both Persona and SMT), with stuff trimmed down in terms of amount of spells. Mostly because Atlus was crazy with spreading out damage types in earlier games. IIRC, Persona 1 had somewhere in the neighborhood of at least 15 different damage types ( ), so you can understand why later games trimmed it down to just the Physical/Ice/Fire/Wind (or Force)/Thunder/Light/Dark/Almighty types.
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Oct 6, 2015 06:31
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Wait, so every time you use an Almighty spell, you're causing a nuclear explosion?
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Oct 6, 2015 14:11
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Mraagvpeine posted:Wait, so every time you use an Almighty spell, you're causing a nuclear explosion? That would explain all the explosions of those spells. Sadly there's no "radiation" stat AradoBalanga posted:I believe the Atomic/Nuclear family of spells got renamed into Almighty for later games (both Persona and SMT), with stuff trimmed down in terms of amount of spells. Mostly because Atlus was crazy with spreading out damage types in earlier games. IIRC, Persona 1 had somewhere in the neighborhood of at least 15 different damage types (
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Oct 7, 2015 11:42
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Mraagvpeine posted:Wait, so every time you use an Almighty spell, you're causing a nuclear explosion? Actually, no; Almighty and Nuclear are separate damage types - Frei, Freila, and Freidyne are the basic single-target Nuclear spells (and three of the only four) whereas for Almighty there's the Zan (single-target, and not Force like it is in SMTIII/DDS), Gry (group-target, like the Ma- spells in this game), and the familiar Megido line (all enemies).
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Oct 7, 2015 19:37
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AweStriker posted:Actually, no; Almighty and Nuclear are separate damage types - Frei, Freila, and Freidyne are the basic single-target Nuclear spells (and three of the only four) whereas for Almighty there's the Zan (single-target, and not Force like it is in SMTIII/DDS), Gry (group-target, like the Ma- spells in this game), and the familiar Megido line (all enemies). Remembering all those spells gets a bit confusing with a ton of different elements + fusion spells 
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Oct 7, 2015 21:39
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Apepresident posted:Jesus, 15 types.... Having all that variety mixed with the press-turn combat sounds like a nightmare to me. *=Another character, Masato (aka, Mark of the danced crazy) uses a pump-action shotgun, hence why Yuuki's is considered a different gun. This happened with other weapons because like three people used pistols (separated as "Hand gun" "9mm pistol" and ".45 pistol", IIRC) and, despite them looking almost very similar, are treated as separate weapons by the game.
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Oct 8, 2015 01:04
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I'm okay with them cutting down the number of elements in games. Honestly anything over 10 feels excessive, and even that is sort of pushing it. By the end of the game it doesn't even loving matter; enemies begin to become resistant to all things so you're better off using almighty anyway.
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Update New episode out now! Last time we started Aoba Park and now it's time to finish it. Since Linda is already defeated there really aren't all that many special things left to do. There's a rare material card here, needed to create Isis, but other than some more talking flowers we basically did everything we could do. So it's off to save Lisa from the clutches of those Masked Circle jerks. We get to fight one of the executives (who like every other boss is a joke). Atleast we get some more information about what's going to happen next: Some more explosions are going to wreck the city and also Hitler is going to appear..... because that makes a lot of sense.... It also seems like the Masked Circle is gaining a lot of mometum. Half the city joined them in order to get their wishes granted by Joker.
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Update New episode out now! With Lisa back in our party and the Aoba Concert Hall blown to pieces it's time to solve King Leo's riddle. Fun Fact: You can either solve his riddle (which is super easy) and properly advance the story by visiting yet another dungeon or you can blow up the building and kill tons of innocent people for no reason. The game actually let's you advance eventhough you messed up and what's even greater is that the next dungeon has the same gimmick going on. Seems like we're going to "accidentally" visit the wrong building once again . *evil laughter*
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Oct 16, 2015 20:29
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Nooo, those poor innocent buildings!
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Oct 17, 2015 04:30
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I love this translation  Interesting that Atlus actually made Lisa as a positive viewpoint, considering the immigrant stereotypes in Japan. The prevailing political air is pretty heavily conservative, and somewhat xenophobic from what I hear. Like apparently one of the more famous politicians said, in no uncertain terms, that he wants to make Japan for the Japanese, and not for those immigrant fucks who have the nerve to try to start a life in Japan. I wonder if a person who lived in Japan could explain the finer parts of Persona. I feel like I'm missing a lot by basically hearing only small snippets of the culture. Seraphic Neoman fucked around with this message at 04:57 on Oct 19, 2015 |
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About the riddle, with "wind signs" and all that: each sign of the Zodiac is associated with a classical element (fire, earth, wind, or water) and a quality (cardinal, fixed, or mutable). It kind of falls flat, though, since Aquarius is actually a fixed sign, although it is a wind element sign.
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