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jabba's palace is almost as dumb as the ewoks, made even worse with that horrible song on the dvd and blu ray versions i mean, luke's entire plan was "send all my friends to possibly die and then show up to fight jabba except I'm an idiot and fell into a pit containing a monster designed to sell toys. but it's okay because i fought it with a convenient bone i found instead of using my jedi powers but then get captured anyway because i forgot i sent my friends to get captured. now i am on a boat and it's a good thing that r2d2 is serving drinks and has a lightsaber in him so i can use my jedi powers to get my lightsaber back and kill everyone which i could've just done in the first place but i'm a dickhead". the only good parts are the bits on the deathstar and the blu ray even managed to poo poo those up.
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I haven't watched the movie trailers but i really liked the 'firefly' stuff the director did. i hope he does as well here. I hope the star wars kicks rear end.
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Sep 8, 2015 11:34
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The truth is all of them have been bad, OP Its just a question of whether you are child/manchild/autistic girl enough to enjoy them
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Sep 8, 2015 11:38
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When you think about it, Star Wars is really about Darth Vader 
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Sep 8, 2015 11:54
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"May the Fourth of May be with you." -Old Ben Canopy
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Sep 8, 2015 12:08
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Star Wars is the best, gently caress all you haters.
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Sep 8, 2015 12:17
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Oh except for the prequels, gently caress the prequels.
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Sep 8, 2015 12:18
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Otterspace posted:Oh except for the prequels, gently caress the prequels. why?
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Sep 8, 2015 12:19
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they're just as good as the original trilogy; silly, camp, witty, nonsensical . . .
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Sep 8, 2015 12:19
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I hope disney runs this poo poo to the ground to such an extent that international law will be made to prosecute and exterminate star wars fans
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Sep 8, 2015 12:20
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les fleurs du mall posted:they're just as good as the original trilogy; silly, camp, witty, nonsensical . . . The cinematography and pacing of the prequel films is significantly worse, and action sequences are not judiciously conserved to invoke audience catharsis. It's like the difference between any other lovely b-movie and a movie like Pulp Fiction. Yeah, you can say "but they both have hammy acting, cheesy effects and grainy film!" but the fact is that there are other, intangible qualities that make Pulp Fiction more than the sum of its parts. It's the same for Star Wars. The only reason the Prequel films are even close to thematically appropriate for the Star Wars franchise is because of the lovely trends started in Return of the Jedi. When you think about it, episode VI is when Star Wars actually started going downhill.
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Sep 8, 2015 12:35
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Applewhite posted:The cinematography and pacing of the prequel films is significantly worse, and action sequences are not judiciously conserved to invoke audience catharsis. they'er still just as enjoyable unless you care about star wars in a frankly psychologically disturbed way
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Sep 8, 2015 12:42
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les fleurs du mall posted:they'er still just as enjoyable unless you care about star wars in a frankly psychologically disturbed way Not especially. The "'verse" stuff doesn't bother me at all. I could give a poo poo about continuity or the expanded universe or even Jar Jar Binks. They're just like, literally inferior films on every level from cinematography to plot to dialogue to acting. Even the effects seemed less convincing somehow.
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Sep 8, 2015 12:58
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It's like trying to make the argument that Terminator: Salvation is as good as Terminator 2 by pointing out the common elements shared between both films. Actually Terminator 2 is better and that's a fact, Jack.
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Sep 8, 2015 13:05
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the original trilogy wasn't good, though, except for pioneering special effects!
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Sep 8, 2015 13:56
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les fleurs du mall posted:the original trilogy wasn't good, though, except for pioneering special effects! The original Trilogy wasn't good. The original two films (Hope and Empire) were good. They were retro sci-fi/fantasy with solid storytelling and cinematography that were to pulp sci-fi what Indiana Jones was to pulp adventure. Lucas's initial budget restrictions forced him to adopt an economy of style that kept scenes tight and to the point with very little superfluous material. All the special effects serve to drive the plot forward and exterior shots of spaceships are used effectively to convey something important is happening. Things start to unravel in Jedi as his "unfettered vision" begins to shine through and it turns out he's not a very good storyteller after all.
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Sep 8, 2015 14:09
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I think Star Wars is good and Empire is legitimately a classic of American cinema. Jedi was just meh and that really was the point where Star Wars turned into an artless merchandizing machine.
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Sep 8, 2015 14:11
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notZaar posted:I think Star Wars is good and Empire is legitimately a classic of American cinema. Jedi was just meh and that really was the point where Star Wars turned into an artless merchandizing machine. P. much this.
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Sep 8, 2015 14:15
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so what you're saying is that the redeeming features of the original 2 films all occured by chance / were not really intentional because the storytelling is actually truly poo poo? I agree!
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Sep 8, 2015 15:27
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les fleurs du mall posted:so what you're saying is that the redeeming features of the original 2 films all occured by chance / were not really intentional because the storytelling is actually truly poo poo? I agree! Saying George Lucas isn't a good storyteller isn't the same as saying the first two films had bad stories. They had good stories, largely because George Lucas couldn't tell the story he wanted. A small but crucial distinction.
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Sep 8, 2015 16:59
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i hope ep 7 is the worst god drat thing
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Sep 8, 2015 17:13
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Applewhite posted:Saying George Lucas isn't a good storyteller isn't the same as saying the first two films had bad stories. They had good stories, largely because George Lucas couldn't tell the story he wanted. A small but crucial distinction. Lucas wasnt really in control until Jedi onward. The first two films were basically made by other people.
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Sep 8, 2015 17:35
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Applewhite posted:Saying George Lucas isn't a good storyteller isn't the same as saying the first two films had bad stories. They had good stories, largely because George Lucas couldn't tell the story he wanted. A small but crucial distinction. but they did have bad stories
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Sep 8, 2015 18:49
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les fleurs du mall posted:but they did have bad stories I disagree.
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Sep 8, 2015 19:03
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JB50 posted:Lucas wasnt really in control until Jedi onward. The first two films were basically made by other people. You think Jew Jew Abrams is going to save this franchise?
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Sep 8, 2015 19:41
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Quote-Unquote posted:jabba's palace is almost as dumb as the ewoks, made even worse with that horrible song on the dvd and blu ray versions I think Lucas should be used as an example taught in film school how you don't loving doctor/revise films you've made after they've been released. My god this guy is a piece of poo poo.
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Sep 8, 2015 19:44
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Applewhite posted:It seemed like the empire did a lot of good things. Nobody ever gives it credit for getting the space trains to run on time. got rid of the muslim (jedi) morality police rebels = islamo-marxist guerrilla
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Sep 8, 2015 20:02
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Palpatine the liberator
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Sep 8, 2015 20:03
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It seems like the First Order imagery is reminiscent of islamonazis in TFA.
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Sep 8, 2015 20:05
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i was watching empire strikes back in teh theater and my child arms were not strong enough to hold the gigantic soda my friend's mom had gotten me and I dropped it. She told me I could have some of my friend's soda but I wanted my own so I was sad the whole movie. I think I heard people laughing
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Sep 8, 2015 20:09
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It's probably going to be good. At the very least they'll be entertaining but hollow, like Star Trek. I hope they remake episodes 1-3.
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Sep 8, 2015 20:40
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If they had let Michael Jackson be Jar Jar Binks as originally planned Episode 1 would be a classic to this day.
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Sep 8, 2015 21:34
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Boinks posted:If they had let Michael Jackson be Jar Jar Binks as originally planned Episode 1 would be a classic to this day. Michael Jackson looked like a Star Wars creature IRL.
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Sep 8, 2015 21:42
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Star Wars has never been good at any point in history. *goes back to watching The Fountain on repeat* *is not being ironic* *gay*
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Sep 8, 2015 21:48
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Boinks posted:If they had let Michael Jackson be Jar Jar Binks as originally planned Episode 1 would be a classic to this day. Yousa been hitted by Yousa been struckted by a smooth crimbidal *pratfall*
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Sep 8, 2015 21:48
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i thought the star trek reboot was great but i havent actually seen any of the originals but im assuming they sucked
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Sep 8, 2015 21:52
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THE DOG HOUSE posted:i thought the star trek reboot was great but i havent actually seen any of the originals but im assuming they sucked They feel like long episodes of television rather than a movie made to be shown in theaters.
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JJ Abrams loves to pervert everything he touches, the stupid lightsaber should have served as warning to everyone
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