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Oberleutnant posted:Probably not much! Is that some variant of Elvish?
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about being able to read it)
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I wanna scrawl "Ye Olde Fagg" on his house
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Sep 10, 2015 20:34
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Sure, just pronounce it correctly - hearing "Yee" is a real thorn in my side
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Sep 10, 2015 20:38
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By the way: this is a great contemporary account of the reality of life lead by the poor in London.quote:The experiences related in this volume fell to me in the summer of 1902. I went down into the under-world of London with an attitude of mind which I may best liken to that of the explorer. I was open to be convinced by the evidence of my eyes, rather than by the teachings of those who had not seen, or by the words of those who had seen and gone before. Further, I took with me certain simple criteria with which to measure the life of the under-world. That which made for more life, for physical and spiritual health, was good; that which made for less life, which hurt, and dwarfed, and distorted life, was bad.
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Fansy posted:They have a lower carbon footprint than anyone here. That's not very Victorian. Victorians were all about heavy industry and pollution. Massive urbanization and industrialization don't lead to very good air. The "pea soup fog" that you see in a lot of Victorian fiction is mostly smog from all the cheap coal everyone is burning. It didn't even really improve until the Great Smog of 1952. When some unusually windless and cold weather conditions made the pollution even worse causing at least 4000 deaths in a single week. As many as 12.000 might have died in total and a 100.000 people became seriously ill. FreudianSlippers fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Sep 10, 2015 |
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Sep 10, 2015 20:49
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This crap would almost be cute if the author wasn't so smugly superior about hand cranked egg beaters and kerosene lamps.
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They make good points about consumer culture, i.e. buying things made by craftsmen & built to last, but it's kind of ruined by them cherry-picking their favorite parts of the Victorian Era. As other posters have said, they're ignoring the grinding poverty of the era and being nostalgic for a time they didn't live in and barely existed, and even then only for the upper 5% of society. I used to work in a motorcycle shop restoring pre-1980 motorcycles. Hipsters bloggers would bring in their bikes for someone else to work on every other weekend, while waxing poetic on their blog about the spiritual connection they have with their machine, carburetors are so much more tactile than today's computerized trash, etc. Meanwhile they are completely lost at anything more complicated than opening the gas tank. Or hipsters that shoot film cameras waxing poetic about the superior qualities of film as they drop it off at Walmart for developing by a 15 year old clerk. Also they're loving morons, the 'big wheel bicycle' is called a penny farthing. Pretty simple to fact-check that, it's like they're faking it to get a book or tv deal.
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Sep 10, 2015 21:48
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ArbitraryC posted:Stuff like this kinda makes me wonder when historically were people happiest on a day to day basis. I think the Native Americans were pretty happy for a good while, well before the whole "Manifest Destiny" thing, heh There are a lot of stories of white settlers running off to live with the indians because the life was perceived to be much better and happier, it was a major problem for early settlements trying to get founded
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Sep 10, 2015 21:50
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Amish do this poo poo on the reg and they're not big whiny babies about it. They need to loving get over themselves.
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I AM ANGRY ANGRY ABOUT LIFESTYLES
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Sep 10, 2015 21:53
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basically they like corsets and kerosene lamps
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Sep 10, 2015 21:56
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maybe she will drop a lamp and then be trapped by her ridiculous hoop skirt and burn to death, just like in real life
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Sep 10, 2015 21:58
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What were victorian era condoms made of?
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Nelson Mandingo posted:What were victorian era condoms made of? Animal guts. The same thing as sausage casings (which must have saved some expenses)
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Sep 10, 2015 22:22
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I bet her cooch loving stinks
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Moola posted:I bet her cooch loving stinks She washes it with vinegar and shaves with sharpened clam shells, she's no barbarian.
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Sep 10, 2015 22:27
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Also her husband is a Victorian, he lives at a colonial outpost where he fucks a harem of exotic sex slaves. He only saw his wife the day he proposed to her, and the day he married her five years later.
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Sep 10, 2015 22:28
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FreudianSlippers posted:That's not very Victorian. Victorians were all about heavy industry and pollution. Massive urbanization and industrialization don't lead to very good air. The "pea soup fog" that you see in a lot of Victorian fiction is mostly smog from all the cheap coal everyone is burning. These two people live an environmentally conscious life. Whether it's historically accurate doesn't really change that fact. Fansy fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Sep 10, 2015 |
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Fansy posted:I'm not critiquing their historical accuracy, I'm just saying these two people live an environmentally conscious life. Nobody in America lives an environmentally conscious life in the middle of a giant city. They just pretend to because they are too dumb to fully understand the externalities of their existence in the modern era.
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Sentient Data posted:Sure, just pronounce it correctly - hearing "Yee" is a real thorn in my side i got it
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Oberleutnant posted:By the way: this is a great contemporary account of the reality of life lead by the poor in London. Thanks for posting this! For any Americans wondering how poo poo life was on their side of the pond, I recommend Upton Sinclair's The Jungle. Yeah it's fiction, but it's based in large part on what he saw in the Chicago butcher factories. Also look up Nellie Bly for firsthand accounts on how poo poo life was in places like insane asylums (hint: it was fantastically, abusively bad) Dre2Dee2 posted:I think the Native Americans were pretty happy for a good while, well before the whole "Manifest Destiny" thing, heh iirc when lewis and clark were travelling through South Dakota they ran across the Teton Sioux tribe. L&C wrote that the sioux were a bunch of backstabbing assholes. and they usually got on well with native americans. so even pre-columbian americas were a bit crap
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Hobohemian posted:Nobody in America lives an environmentally conscious life in the middle of a giant city. They just pretend to because they are too dumb to fully understand the externalities of their existence in the modern era. City dwellers have a lower carbon footprint than suburban or rural. http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2009/mar/23/city-dwellers-smaller-carbon-footprints If they live like this in the middle of a city, they're pretty drat environmentally righteous.
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NEED TOILET PAPER posted:iirc when lewis and clark were travelling through South Dakota they ran across the Teton Sioux tribe. L&C wrote that the sioux were a bunch of backstabbing assholes. and they usually got on well with native americans. so even pre-columbian americas were a bit crap There's no pure and virtuous civilization. The Native American failed to destroy North America only because he didn't invent the technologies that would allow him to store excess yields from natural resources. South American Indians saw murder as a legitimate means of doing away with unpleasant tribal members. African tribes became the main threat to the wildlife their ancestors worshipped as soon as they got their hands on guns. Chinese peasants destroyed natural arboreal and alluvial ecosystems in efforts to maximize short+term crops harvests. In general humility and respect towards nature have never existed as a mass phenomenon.
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steinrokkan posted:She washes it with vinegar and shaves with sharpened clam shells, she's no barbarian. I thought realistic would be having hair down there thicker than the amazonian jungle.
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etalian posted:I thought realistic would be having hair down there thicker than the amazonian jungle. The Victorians, contrary to popular belief, were no strangers to sex and sexual adjustments. Erotic piercings were common (piercing of a single nipple was particularly popular among women), and shaved poosays were relatively widespread, though some shaven women wore merkins because preference for shaven pubis was not universal. In fact the classes that took pubic shaving as a norm often used pubic clippings as keepsakes to remind them of their loved ones. Anyway, the fact Victorian ladies knew how to trim the bush shouldn't come as a surprise, given that loving four thousand years earlier Egyptians fetishized shaved bodies without any of the advanced knowledge of metallurgy (and at least in some cases literally used the sharpened clam shells I mentioned)
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Fansy posted:City dwellers have a lower carbon footprint than suburban or rural. Just because you're less lovely than most doesn't mean your living environmentally conscious. If you want to be environmentally conscious you need to advocate for policies that address the systemic issues within society as a whole. That's usually things like replacing coal with nuclear power, deforestation, and unsustainable factory farming practices, not playing dress-up and pretending the rest of the world doesn't exist because your idle rich white rear end doesn't have to feel the brunt of it.
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yall are really obsessed with this woman's fish-pond. kinda creepy imo
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Gazpacho posted:hysteria is still a standard diagnosis btw, they just changed the name and you can't use it as an excuse to finger gently caress chicks anymore Doctors didn't use it as an "excuse". It was their best and most reliable way to make money, but many of them complained that it was really demanding on their hands. There'd be a lot of women to go through every day and they'd get real tired. Most would've been happy to stop doing it, but it was just about the only thing doctors did back then that really made their patient feel better. It was in high demand and generated a lot of repeat business.
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Millie posted:I'm kind of disappointed. I thought they were going to be obese. Nah they seem dedicated enough to do lovely chores w/o appliances as they also opted not to live in total squalor, some squalor sure, just not total. If you read the article it seems like just maintaining body temperature becomes an issue in the winter. Hopefully they don't rely too hard on actual preserved foods all winter long tho lest they get scurvy or other deficiencies.
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I hope they only buy preserved food in either mason jars or lead-soldered tins. Also that the lead in their tomato cans gets dissolved by the acid and they end up with accute lead poisoning.
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steinrokkan posted:
The Incan empire legitimately abolished hunger and was basically a model communist state so I am still going with that one
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Mermaid Autopsy posted:The Incan empire legitimately abolished hunger and was basically a model communist state so I am still going with that one I'm talking less about the Incas, and more about the many peripheral Amazon tribes.
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Sentient Data posted:Sure, just pronounce it correctly - hearing "Yee" is a real thorn in my side No way, it might be the best video on the internet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6EoRBvdVPQ
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Also, do they take cocaine for toothaches and mercury for stomachaches, or do they cheat and go to modern doctors?
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steinrokkan posted:I hope they only buy preserved food in either mason jars or lead-soldered tins. Sadly they don't seem that batshit, the second one of them gets a chest cold they probably run for the nearest hospital to get at those sweet modern antibiotics. No bearing it out to see if pneumonia develops while feverishly getting deep into the occult when traditional treatments fail, I'm afraid.
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Gabriel regularly keeps company with one or two syphilitic prostitutes in the poorer part of town while she gets vibed by the courteous, thorough Dr. Langley on a bi-weekly basis. At night they retire to their separate bedchambers but not before a chaste and loveless peck on the cheeks.
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I don't think the Vitorians used mercury to treat common maladies. They used mercury to slow down syphilis symptoms, and it worked in that faculty.
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steinrokkan posted:I don't think the Vitorians used mercury to treat common maladies. They used mercury to slow down syphilis symptoms, and it worked in that faculty. yeah they used opium for the rest, which also works.
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However, Victorian confectioners used arsenic compounds to decorate baked goods (a practice they copied from France). In fact, Scottish people in particular still see green sweets (historically green colour was achieved via arsenic) as a sign of bad luck, because the unregulated use of the "green colour" kied many chidren in the Victorian times.
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