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cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

sweetmercifulcrap posted:

I'm watching through HIMYM, but I'm actually in season 6 and getting pretty tired of it. Could I skip to the final season and not miss out on anything?

The final season was somewhat better than the one before.
But the actual end was awful.

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computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP
I never really watched HIMYM but the first season seemed cute and the reveal (that I found out later) about him meeting "their Aunt Robin" was interesting. Kind of a shame that they went back to that exact plot point in the finale and played it straight.

Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006



College Slice
How I Met Your Mother could have succeeded as a much shorter, more focused series. As it stands, it wears thin really quickly, and then just piles needless plot twists on itself until it has to somehow clumsily disentangle itself from them in the last episode because they'd already shot the now-age-inappropriate kids' reactions back in the first or second season.

Shadow
Jun 25, 2002

Air is lava! posted:

The final season was somewhat better than the one before.
But the actual end was awful.

The final season was BETTER?


It took them 18 episodes to get through 3 days and it dragged on so much that entire episodes had literally nothing occur until the final 2 minutes. That final season was trash.

Sorry but your opinion is wrong!

Irish Joe
Jul 23, 2007

by Lowtax

Shadow posted:

The final season was BETTER?


It took them 18 episodes to get through 3 days and it dragged on so much that entire episodes had literally nothing occur until the final 2 minutes. That final season was trash.

Sorry but your opinion is wrong!

Imagine how much better the show would have been if they revealed that Robin could fly before the penultimate episode of the series.

Shadow
Jun 25, 2002

Irish Joe posted:

Imagine how much better the show would have been if they revealed that Robin could fly before the penultimate episode of the series.

I....hmm.


YEAH!

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


Every single answer to this thread should have been "Sons of Anarchy after season 2.

The Ireland thing was so hideously bad with its "I'm sorry Jax, your son is in another castle" kidnap plot and IRA gun things etc.

Then it just careened into awful, with a particular highlight being a deranged chase sequence set to jazz and the Jax = Jesus. It wasn't even funny, it was just awful.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.


precision posted:

I think the bigger problem with That 70s Show was "uh, what're they gonna do after high school?" They threw a bunch of ideas at it but none of them were good and they kept the worst ones (Kelso becomes a cop, etc)

Like they almost had the right idea with Hyde being a record store clerk but they managed to screw that up too. And all the stupid poo poo with Fez.

I think Blonde Donna is a good visual marker of when that show went down the tubes.

Why did Fez stick around anyway? Wasn't he supposed to be an exchange student?

muscles like this? posted:

They really hosed the show up when they decided that nobody could ever change the status quo. So you have stuff like Eric and Donna not going to college or get married, instead everybody just keeps doing the same thing.


~*~the same old thing, we did last week ~*~

raditts fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Sep 15, 2015

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.


Irish Joe posted:

Person of Interest



Not to knock what the show became, but the first season of Person of Interest was a total shitshow. Yeah, it was a smash hit and, yeah, the show gradually got better over its second season,* but, my God, how could anyone watch the average first season episode and think to themselves "I need more of this!" On quality alone, it should have been cancelled after the first season.


I'm in the camp that didn't think the first season was that bad. I think generally people consider the second half of the season at least is approaching good. Certainly nothing on the level of Shield, at least.

quote:

Marvel's Agents of SHIELD


(Dutch angle, blurst angle)

Take everything I said about Person of Interest, but substitute "smash hit" with "ratings failure," and "gradually got better" with "and in many respects got even worse" and you have Marvel's Agents of SHIELD. PoI is proof that giving a shaky show a second chance can sometimes pay dividends, while MAoS is proof that giving a shaky show a second chance is an exercise in self-flagellation. Yes, MAoS might get better in its third season, but if you believe that, send me a PM because I've got a bridge I'm willing to sell you at a great price.

It never stood any risk of being cancelled because its purpose is just to be an hour long reminder to keep Marvel poo poo fresh in people's minds.

I appreciate it for one thing, and that's for having Sam Jackson on to act circles around the regular cast while munching on every piece of scenery available.

raditts fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Sep 15, 2015

BSam
Nov 24, 2012

Hey raddits, you should know better than to assume Irish Joe is being serious. He obviously just listed two of the best shows of recent times in this thread just to get a rise out of people.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.


He's right though about POI season 1 being unpopular and Shield being hot streaming garbage though.

SweetMercifulCrap!
Jan 28, 2012
Lipstick Apathy
A few people mentioned Parks and Rec, and I do agree that season 5 and 6 are kind of a directionless mess and all over the place with a million story arcs, but it did still manage to still be really funny in spite of this, so I wouldn't personally include it in this thread. I thought the final season finally got everything back on track and wrapped it up decently, plus being three years in the future was enough to make it a little more interesting.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

raditts posted:

He's right though about POI season 1 being unpopular and Shield being hot streaming garbage though.

SHIELD isn't hot steaming garbage, it's... kind of just there.

It had a string of good episodes after like 15 awful ones, then an unremarkable first half of season 2 and another half of season 2 I have sitting on my DVR unwatched because god I just can't muster up the effort to watch it.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.


IRQ posted:

SHIELD isn't hot steaming garbage, it's... kind of just there.

It had a string of good episodes after like 15 awful ones, then an unremarkable first half of season 2 and another half of season 2 I have sitting on my DVR unwatched because god I just can't muster up the effort to watch it.

If you need to clear space on your DVR, season 2 has been on Netflix since shortly after it finished airing on TV. It's no more remarkable than the first half, but you do get an amusing sideshow of "we couldn't get the rights to actual mutants so have these lame dollar store X-Men ripoffs" characters.

Terror Sweat
Mar 15, 2009

IRQ posted:

SHIELD isn't hot steaming garbage, it's... kind of just there.

It had a string of good episodes after like 15 awful ones, then an unremarkable first half of season 2 and another half of season 2 I have sitting on my DVR unwatched because god I just can't muster up the effort to watch it.

Most people would consider that garbage

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

raditts posted:

If you need to clear space on your DVR, season 2 has been on Netflix since shortly after it finished airing on TV. It's no more remarkable than the first half, but you do get an amusing sideshow of "we couldn't get the rights to actual mutants so have these lame dollar store X-Men ripoffs" characters.

Good to know, I expect it'll start filling up fast because PEAK TV :supaburn:



Terror Sweat posted:

Most people would consider that garbage

It's not bad though. Like it's not good, but it doesn't rise to the level of garbage.

InfiniteZero
Sep 11, 2004

PINK GUITAR FIRE ROBOT

College Slice

Junior G-man posted:

It wasn't even funny, it was just awful.

I disagree. Kurt Sutter working out his frustrations with his audience by having his own character hosed up the rear end on-screen is at least amusing in a Schadenfreude way.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
I dunno if this is common or not, but I actually stopped watching the Shield after season 3 not because it ever got bad but because it got too stressful. Every episode was a heart attack! The end of the world was always around the next corner!

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


raditts posted:

Why did Fez stick around anyway? Wasn't he supposed to be an exchange student?


He was supposed to go back to his home country after they graduated but wanted to stay so he married Eric's sister, which caused Red to have a heart attack, which is why Eric didn't go to college.

Shadow
Jun 25, 2002
Yeah they really tried to make that story work. Then the actor was like "this poo poo has run its course" and left anyway.

I think they had him join the peace corp and move to Africa.

SegwayPimp
Sep 13, 2015
The Simpsons
House
NCIS
SNL
Family Guy
American Dad
anything else Seth Macfarlane made after Family Guy
Who Wants To Be A Millionaire (seriously this is still on I think its hosted by a dog now)

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Shadow posted:

Yeah they really tried to make that story work. Then the actor was like "this poo poo has run its course" and left anyway.

I think they had him join the peace corp and move to Africa.

Then they had him break up with Donna like two episodes after he left through a letter. Also for some reason despite Eric being gone and Hyde moving out everyone still hung out at the Foreman house.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
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Steve Yun posted:

I dunno if this is common or not, but I actually stopped watching the Shield after season 3 not because it ever got bad but because it got too stressful. Every episode was a heart attack! The end of the world was always around the next corner!

This is The Shield as in, cop show? I only ever heard of people bailing after season 1. If you got to s2 most people were generally locked in.

It is a very tense show though, and if it made you on edge too much then yeah... that ain't gonna go away. Goddamn was that a good show, I miss it but what you gonna do about a show that ended perfectly and at exactly the right time?

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


BSam posted:

Hey raddits, you should know better than to assume Irish Joe is being serious. He obviously just listed two of the best shows of recent times in this thread just to get a rise out of people.

Agents of SHIELD? Really?

Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006



College Slice

Tiggum posted:

Agents of SHIELD? Really?

It's pretty much a hit with audiences and critics. The only people I've seen who haven't been able to get over the rocky start have been on here.

It's okay not to like it, though.

MildShow
Jan 4, 2012

Futurama. The Comedy Central run was decent for the most part, but it still felt like a let down compared to the original run. The Devil's Hands are Idle Playthings was such a great ending, I kind of wish they had just left it alone. And while I enjoyed the first movie, the other three movies rapid declined in quality.

Shadow
Jun 25, 2002
The first one was with Lars right? The tentacle heaven thing was dumb.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


The big problem with the Futurama movies is that CC said they were each going to be split up into four episodes. So instead of actually producing movies they just made four episodes that were loosely related.

Shadow
Jun 25, 2002
Same happened with the Family Guy movie. 3 or 4 episodes == 1 movie.

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord
I think LOST could have been okay if it was 2 seasons long or 6 seasons long, but they got the worst of all worlds by having the writers have no clue how long it was going to be and making the story a weird mess of alternatingly stretching the show out then rushing everything.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

muscles like this? posted:

The big problem with the Futurama movies is that CC said they were each going to be split up into four episodes. So instead of actually producing movies they just made four episodes that were loosely related.

They also said that when they were going to air they would have additional content added to make them more like mini-episodes.

Instead now they just air them in a 2 hour block without any extras.

egon_beeblebrox
Mar 1, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



Sealab 2021 should have died with Capt. Murphy.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


MildShow posted:

Futurama. The Comedy Central run was decent for the most part, but it still felt like a let down compared to the original run. The Devil's Hands are Idle Playthings was such a great ending, I kind of wish they had just left it alone. And while I enjoyed the first movie, the other three movies rapid declined in quality.

The Devil's Hands are Idle Playthings is such a great episode that basically anything that came after it would be a disappointment, but even so, the movies go steadily downhill and the two seasons that followed were just garbage.

SweetMercifulCrap!
Jan 28, 2012
Lipstick Apathy
The final seasons of Futurama were not on the level of the originals, but they still had some great episodes - for example, "The Late Phillip J Fry."

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

I think LOST could have been okay if it was 2 seasons long or 6 seasons long, but they got the worst of all worlds by having the writers have no clue how long it was going to be and making the story a weird mess of alternatingly stretching the show out then rushing everything.

I think if there were ever a show that would benefit from some sort of director's cut release, it's Lost. Cutting out the filler and dropped plots of the early seasons, and cleaning and tightening up the later seasons and reducing the show to about 4 seasons would make a huge difference.

Looten Plunder
Jul 11, 2006
Grimey Drawer

pentyne posted:

Boardwalk Empire (Trying so desperately hard to be the next Sopranos it whiffed it hard
First of all. Boardwalk Empire was awesome. But even if you hated it, how does this belong on the list?

pentyne posted:

True Blood (schlockly vampire/violence porn runined by some stupid attempt at a mythos.)
Much like Boardwalk, aren't you just explaining why a show was poo poo as opposed to "should have been cancelled before they were"

pentyne posted:

Scrubs: After Zach Braff left it got worse, and given the standard up to that point that's saying something
Didn't this basically just become a spin-off series at that point? Not sure if this qualifies

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
Moonbeam City is going to be canceled in a few months, and when it does I'm going to say that it should have been canceled tonight

Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 07:30 on Sep 17, 2015

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


xcore posted:

Didn't this basically just become a spin-off series at that point?

Not really. They sort of tried to sell it as a spin-off, but most of the characters were still in it, the format was basically the same, it just followed a different protagonist rather than JD (who became a secondary character).

MildShow
Jan 4, 2012

The creator of Scrubs wanted to actually change the name of the show to give it more of a spinoff vibe, but ABC wouldn't let him. I think if it had a little more time, it might've separated itself more from the original Scrubs - the last few episodes of the season were definitely better than the first ones. As it is, I think it kind of works as a postscript season, an epilogue to the first eight seasons.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe

Tiggum posted:

The Devil's Hands are Idle Playthings is such a great episode that basically anything that came after it would be a disappointment, but even so, the movies go steadily downhill and the two seasons that followed were just garbage.

The Late Phillip J. Fry and the second series finale are the best of the new lot really.

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Shadow
Jun 25, 2002
Yeah, it was one of those heart wrenchers. In fact, you want someone who thinks "that show is stupid" to watch the show, have them watch the Jurassic Bark, the one with Lela's parents montage showing how they always watched over her, Lars, etc. They usually had at least 1 per season. If you can watch those episodes and not feel anything, then...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa6Kv1fOStM

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