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Isn't separating kids into different class levels all about helping them succeed? I was just average in high school. I didn't feel screwed by the system because I wasn't taking AP courses. I didn't feel bad that there were kids who were much smarter and more dedicated than me. I liked to get high all the time and get through classes by the skin of my teeth. The article talks about teaching algebra all throughout elementary and middle school. I agree with this, however you're still going to end up with kids who want to learn more and kids who don't give a poo poo. Separate them so teachers can cater to the needs of each group.
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icantfindaname posted:the solution is free college education, not to mark a third of the population as the designated menial labor class Nothing wrong with not going to college and getting a trade. In this day and age, if you're not going to college for specialized training to work in a field that requires that training (ex doctor nurse lawyer engineer scientist), you might as well avoid the mortgage. Whether you or your perfect Scandinavian government are paying it. The world needs furnace guys, machinists, carpenters etc. You don't need to be ultra educated to get a good job, you just need marketable skills.
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Sep 16, 2015 01:43
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Literally The Worst posted:how is it taking out a mortgage if you're not the one paying for it Professors in socialist wunderlands work for free right? You will pay it one way or another.
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Sep 16, 2015 02:36
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Effectronica posted:What does this have to do with anything? Actually not much of anything and I made the mistake of going there. Effectronica posted:There's actually plenty wrong with it, given working conditions for even unionized skilled laborers in today's world. Most people would rather have the sort of comfort associated with white-collar positions, which is why they encourage their kids to go to college. My original point was that you can make reasonable money with a trade as opposed to going to college and sinking yourself in a $50k-$100k debt pit. Especially if you're just going to college just because you heard people will pay you more if you get a degree. Yeah, if you're a carpenter, you might have to work out in the rain. Furnace guy and mechanic will need to wash their hands with fast orange cause they get greasy. But you talk about it like it's slave labor in Bangladesh. In earlier posts I mentioned there are academically oriented kids who study and do their work, and catch on to advanced topics. And how there are kids who don't give a poo poo about academics. Separating them into different classes and course work allows teachers to cater to each group. People try to make it a social justice issue. The bottom line is, everyone is different and who cares. Let the smart kids get smarter and the kids who don't give a poo poo learn something else (tech school).
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In my home town, we took placement tests to determine what math classes we should take grades 5-8. In high school we pretty much decided our own fate for class difficulty. If your grades were particularly terrible you'd have to bargain with a guidance counselor to get into advanced courses. Isn't letting kids choose their own difficulty (with guidance) the ultimate solution? Everyone gets what they want.
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