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Kalli posted:I mean, the offense is amazing right now. I can't even imagine what will follow Belichick in New England because he's the head coach, and his coordinators are basically all glorified secretaries who absolutely cannot be trusted with greater responsibilities under any circumstances, and he's also the GM. His coaching tree is more properly a coaching virus, so you don't want any of those fuckos like Mangini back. Scott Pioli turned out to be just a huge shithead. And so on. I suspect it will make everyone but Pats fans very happy. I'm hoping it will at least be an entertaining Götterdämmerung.
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Sep 28, 2015 19:09
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It's gonna be Patricia.
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Sep 28, 2015 19:21
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Chilichimp posted:It's gonna be Patricia. He sure seems like the least bad option. But when the defense is being coached up on the sidelines of a game it's always Belichick himself doing it, so it's unclear what if anything Patricia actually knows how to do. 
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Sep 28, 2015 19:33
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sean10mm posted:He sure seems like the least bad option. But when the defense is being coached up on the sidelines of a game it's always Belichick himself doing it, so it's unclear what if anything Patricia actually knows how to do. Wear loose clothing, grow a beard, and otherwise look like he's on the deck of an aircraft carrier during a drill.
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Sep 28, 2015 20:05
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FizFashizzle posted:Who would they be promoting? Realistically it would be Lazer on Interim I bet
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Sep 28, 2015 20:11
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I think the Fins are better off letting Philbin ride this train to its appointed 4-12 destination than have someone with a pulse take over the team and possible get them back to 8-8.
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Sep 28, 2015 20:41
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I actually agree with that. You're likely not gonna see movement but considering the bye week and all that, I would expect Philbin fired if Miami goes 1-3. Which they will. They were so flat
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Sep 28, 2015 23:02
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Christ Pseudoscientist posted:Who is going to be the big name coach everyone wants to hire this offseason? Dave Toub is due
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Here are the Rotoworld rankings for coaches the last two years. Joe Philbin was 25th(out of 25 returning coaches each year) http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/52307/57/nfls-best-coaches-2015?pg=3 25. Joe Philbin Career Record: 23-25 (.479) With The Dolphins Since: 2012 Last Year’s Ranking: 25 The grandest of mediocrities, Joe Philbin is not an NFL coach. He is a shrinking violet garbed in an aqua polo and adorned with a headset. He is a man unloved by his players, outwitted by his rivals and overwhelmed by his duties. An “offensive mind,” Philbin does not call his own plays. That leaves his primary function as “leading.” This is not good because Philbin’s primary failing is leadership. Not every NFL coach is going to be Pete Carroll or Mike Ditka. Loud does not equal “lead.” But if you’re going to be the quiet type, you better have a firm grasp on the pulse of your team. This is something Philbin insisted he didn’t have when he pled ignorance again and again in the Dolphins’ “Bullygate” scandal. Philbin’s locker room was fracturing into factions, and whether it was willful or intentional, he had no idea. Once Philbin finally does discover his problems, he ships them out instead of coaching them up. Brandon Marshall and Vontae Davis have both thrived since Philbin sent them packing, while the Dolphins have spent millions and many draft picks trying to replace them. Not that Philbin’s failures all come behind closed doors. As a game manager, his top innovation has been calling late timeouts on defense in one-score games. This brilliant tactic helped produce two wins in 2014 … for the Packers and Lions. Philbin’s other speciality is dialing up field goals. Unfortunately for Dolphins fans, only five teams had worse field-goal percentages last season. Philbin is John Harbaugh if he never won. He’s Mike Tomlin if he never showed fire. He’s Jason Garrett if he never smiled. He is the worst coach in the NFL. http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/46250/57/the-nfls-best-coaches?pg=3 25. Joe Philbin Career Record: 15-17 (.469) With The Dolphins Since: 2012 You might think that, like Garrett, it’s not clear what Philbin does. You’d be wrong. It is clear. Nothing. Philbin does nothing. Philbin is a former offensive coordinator who didn’t call plays even when he was an offensive coordinator. He doesn’t know how to hire assistants. He doesn’t know who to feature on offense. He doesn’t know how to handle a PR crisis. He does know how to project the personality of a cantaloupe that’s learned how to talk. Maybe Philbin’s value added to the Dolphins is immense behind the scenes. His starring role on Hard Knocks wouldn’t suggest that, but work with me. But even if that were true, could it possibly be worth the ineptitude he’s shown on the sideline? Hiring Mike Sherman? Featuring Daniel Thomas? Having no clue how to get to the ball to his No. 1 receiver or keep his quarterback upright? With a playoff berth on the line, Philbin’s team combined for seven points in Weeks 16 and 17. It generated 24 first downs. That would get you fired five times in Cleveland. In Miami, it wins you a power struggle with the general manager. Philbin’s off-the-field victory will ultimately prove pyrrhic for the Dolphins on it.
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Catfish Noodlin posted:Here are the Rotoworld rankings for coaches the last two years. Joe Philbin was 25th(out of 25 returning coaches each year) Week 8 is probably where Philbin gets fired. Because for as much of an rear end in a top hat people think Rex Ryan is, he does have the quality of mercy which is why you saw EJ in there and a relaxed defense at the end. The Patriots have no concept of honor and are going to kill the Dolphins and then they are going to rape Stephen Ross in front of a horrified Warren Buffet.
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Sep 29, 2015 04:32
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Chilichimp posted:It's gonna be Patricia. It'll probably be McDaniels tbh
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Sep 29, 2015 06:11
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has an NFL team ever hired a head coach right out of a mid-major in college (or better, an FCS team) because I'm trying to imagine the media frenzy over a team hiring someone like Justin Fuentes from Memphis
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Sep 29, 2015 06:18
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Alaois posted:has an NFL team ever hired a head coach right out of a mid-major in college (or better, an FCS team) because I'm trying to imagine the media frenzy over a team hiring someone like Justin Fuentes from Memphis I'm sure it's happened multiple times but Don Coryell went from SDSU (who were d2 when he started there) to the nfl MourningView fucked around with this message at 06:52 on Sep 29, 2015 |
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Sep 29, 2015 06:48
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Week 3 rankings are up. We're starting to get some clarity on where each team stands so hopefully this list won't be as herky-jerky as I made it the past couple weeks. That said, there's still a lot of football left to play. The Bears and 49ers are in a freefall, but I'm not ready to move either coach out of the grace period yet. Marvin Lewis goes to "zero danger" and stays there until the playoffs roll around. Rumors of Chip's demise may have been exaggerated. ZERO DANGER Bill Belichick, New England Patriots John Harbaugh, Baltimore Ravens Marvin Lewis, Cincinnati Bengals Mike Tomlin, Pittsburgh Steelers Mike McCoy, San Diego Chargers Jason Garrett, Dallas Cowboys Mike McCarthy, Green Bay Packers Mike Zimmer, Minnesota Vikings Pete Carroll, Seattle Seahawks Bruce Arians, Arizona Cardinals FIRST-YEAR GRACE PERIOD Rex Ryan, Buffalo Bills Todd Bowles, New York Jets Gary Kubiak, Denver Broncos Jack Del Rio, Oakland Raiders John Fox, Chicago Bears Dan Quinn, Atlanta Falcons Jim Tomsula, San Francisco 49ers MILD Bill O'Brien, Houston Texans: Got a much-needed win this week, and with Arian Foster due back soon there's plenty of time to salvage the season. If Foster does return healthy and rejuvenates the offense then I'll move BOB to "zero danger" in due time. Still, find a real drat QB, bro. Gus Bradley, Jacksonville Jaguars: I wasn't sure where to rank Bradley this week. Nobody expected the Jags to beat New England, but at some point you'd like them to actually look competitive against better teams, rather than just rolling over and dying. The Jags have a million injuries on defense so that's at least a good excuse for Gus, but Bortles seems to have hit a wall once again. Andy Reid, Kansas City Chiefs: Got smashed by the Packers and now have to travel to Cincinnati, making a 1-3 start quite likely. Reid probably won't get fired this year, but hitching his wagon to Alex Smith could cost him in the long run. Chip Kelly, Philadelphia Eagles: Okay, so maybe I got caught up in the hype when I stuck him in HOTTTT last week. The Eagles' next three games? @WAS, NO, NYG. The sky might not be falling after all. Sean Payton, New Orleans Saints: Payton is a tough one for me to grade. There's no doubt that the Saints are in real trouble right now, and Brees' injury could cause their whole season to go up in smoke. The question for me is, how much rope does Payton have for dragging the Saints to relevance, and how much rope will he have left when their contention window closes? I'll be monitoring this one closely. Ron Rivera, Carolina Panthers: Still have a lot of problems at WR and OL, but if Cam Newton keeps playing the best football of his life, and Luke Kuechly comes back on schedule, it might not matter. A 3-0 start is a big loving deal in the wide-open NFC playoff race. MODERATE Ken Whisenhunt, Tennessee Titans: Well, blowing a 13-point lead against a beatable Colts team won't do much to help your job security. The Titans have an early bye in Week 4 to figure out where they stand this season. Whiz continues to do nothing to inspire confidence. Jay Gruden, Washington: I didn't watch Thursday's game, but I saw that Skins lost and Kirk Cousins sucked again. I've still seen nothing to indicate that Gruden isn't just waiting out the year. Tom Coughlin, New York Giants: Got in the win column, but over a Skins team that trips over their own dick even more than the Giants do. That doesn't move the needle either way on Coughlin's status. Jim Caldwell, Detroit Lions: After a playoff appearance in his first season, the Lions are in the dreaded 0-3 hole and have the Seahawks and Cardinals coming up next. In other words, they're in big trouble. Everybody still remembers Caldwell's disastrous Colts tenure, so questions are already popping up. OC Joe Lombardi could be the first coordinator fired this season, if only to appease the masses. Lovie Smith, Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Bucs homers would blame the kicker for missing 3 FGs. Neutral observers would wonder why the Bucs settled for FGs so often, instead of taking advantage of a wounded Texans offense. There were no winners in that awful game and Lovie's status is unchanged. Jeff Fisher, St. Louis Rams: By all rights, Fisher should be in HOTTTT. His team injured Pittsburgh's superstar quarterback, their defense held the Steelers to 12 points, didn't have to worry about Big Ben for a full quarter ... and they lost 12-6 at home. The offense is unwatchable right now, and I don't expect it to change even when Todd Gurley gets more involved. It's becoming obvious that the Week 1 Seahawks win was a fluke -- this Rams team looks rudderless. But the ownership is paying Fisher too much and still inexplicably loves him so he'll stick around. This may change if the Rams continue playing bad, but Fisher is as Teflon as ever. HOTTTT Joe Philbin, Miami Dolphins: Hey, how do you follow up a demoralizing road loss to the Jaguars? With a demoralizing home blowout loss to the Bills, of course. Christ, what a loving mess. Chuck Pagano, Indianapolis Colts: The media may frame it as ANDREW LUCK LEADS SEASON-SAVING COMEBACK. Smart people read it as: You needed a heroic comeback against the loving Titans. Sorry Chuck, nothing you did this week changed anybody's minds about anything. Mike Pettine, Cleveland Browns: It's the Jimmy Haslam Browns. Every coach is on the hot seat until proven otherwise.
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Sep 29, 2015 09:58
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Alaois posted:has an NFL team ever hired a head coach right out of a mid-major in college (or better, an FCS team) because I'm trying to imagine the media frenzy over a team hiring someone like Justin Fuentes from Memphis Dude why you gotta try and rob me of the only thing I've got going for me sports wise this year
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Sep 29, 2015 10:50
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Not sure why McCoy is in zero danger. The Chargers have been a pretty big disappointment so far.
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Sep 29, 2015 10:52
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LiquidFriend posted:Not sure why McCoy is in zero danger. The Chargers have been a pretty big disappointment so far. Eh, I'm mostly going on goodwill there. His first season he wins a playoff game on the road, goes 9-7 last year with big roster holes, and he's getting a lot of credit for giving Rivers' career a second wind. I'm still not sure what to make of the Chargers this year, but I also haven't seen anything to indicate McCoy is in danger. It seems like they're committed to him for now.
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Sep 29, 2015 11:07
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Missing out on January football last season because Chase Daniel beat you and a rough start isn't good. He might be okay for now, but the heat will be on if they stay under .500.
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Sep 29, 2015 11:44
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Most people are expecting a double digit loss to the Jets via sabotage because the players seem to loving hate the coaches, each for different reasons. On the bright side, Rishard Matthews, the man the Panthers could have had for a 4th rounder or so... is on fire. 3 games - 16 catches for 262 yards and 3 touchdowns.
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Sep 29, 2015 13:50
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AAA DOLFAN posted:Most people are expecting a double digit loss to the Jets via sabotage because the players seem to loving hate the coaches, each for different reasons. Go on...
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Sep 29, 2015 14:33
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I'm pretty sure Fisher is HOTTTTT right now based on the fact he hired internally for the offensive coordinator rather than looking for someone. The offense is such a loving dumpster fire right now and it's 80% play calling at this point.
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Sep 29, 2015 14:35
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DariusLikewise posted:I'm pretty sure Fisher is HOTTTTT right now based on the fact he hired internally for the offensive coordinator rather than looking for someone. The offense is such a loving dumpster fire right now and it's 80% play calling at this point. They're not going to fire Fisher. The team is out the door and into LA. no one gives a poo poo in the city or in the national media. They'll let him coach that crap out then start fresh in 2016. Please beat the Seahawks again tia
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Sep 29, 2015 14:38
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LiquidFriend posted:Missing out on January football last season because Chase Daniel beat you and a rough start isn't good. He might be okay for now, but the heat will be on if they stay under .500. McCoy is fine. The heat is gonna be on Telesco for not doing more to address the OL, but injuries are a fluky thing. McCoy has gone 9-7 his first two years, and should be around that this year. This is also an owner who kept Norv Turner for 7 years so I don't see him axing McCoy after 3 in any circumstance
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Sep 29, 2015 15:37
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Shadow225 posted:Dude why you gotta try and rob me of the only thing I've got going for me sports wise this year It could also be Matt Campbell from Toledo! Fuentes was just the first "rising mid-major coach" that came to mind.
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Sep 29, 2015 15:46
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AAA DOLFAN posted:Most people are expecting a double digit loss to the Jets via sabotage because the players seem to loving hate the coaches, each for different reasons. Is 5 catches per game really "on fire" now?
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Sep 29, 2015 15:57
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NC-17 posted:Is 5 catches per game really "on fire" now?
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Sep 29, 2015 16:02
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NC-17 posted:Is 5 catches per game really "on fire" now? It's a pretty great stat line for a dude who barely saw the field in recent years and was gonna be the 5th WR in this offense.
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Sep 29, 2015 16:08
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I don't think most Dolphins fans saw Jennings as anything more than a depth with some upside potential, but Stills has to make them pine for the days of Mike Wallace. They gave up a third-round pick to get rid of Ellerbe’s contract. (I thought it was a good move in the off-season, in fairness.)
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Sep 29, 2015 16:11
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Ehud posted:It's a pretty great stat line for a dude who barely saw the field in recent years and was gonna be the 5th WR in this offense. Fair enough. What I can't figure out about the Dolphins is how no one is getting pressure on the quarterback with Suh eating up 2-3 defenders at a time. What the hell is the rest of the defense doing?
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Sep 29, 2015 16:12
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Burger Trench posted:(I thought it was a good move in the off-season, in fairness.) I think most people did, he looked really good in his limited touches for the Saints.
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Sep 29, 2015 16:28
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NC-17 posted:Fair enough. Cameron Wake has a bad hamstring. Olivier Vernon...I don't know what is happening there. He has been absolutely terrible this year. And our LB corps just isn't very good at pushing the passer.
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Sep 29, 2015 16:28
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NC-17 posted:Is 5 catches per game really "on fire" now? He was the 5th string receiver to start the season and is averaging 90 yards and a touchdown every game. That's great no matter who
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Sep 29, 2015 17:21
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NC-17 posted:Fair enough. The Lions from 2010 to 2013.
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NC-17 posted:Fair enough.
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Sep 29, 2015 19:04
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NC-17 posted:Fair enough. Teams are getting the ball out quickly and not staying in the pocket, and both OV and Wake are injured. Kevin Coyle is really bad at coaching fronts, and the wheels have fallen off completely since midway through last year. They switched to a more aggressive gap scheme and it's been badly taken advantage of and doesn't appear likely to change.
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Sep 29, 2015 19:08
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Catfish Noodlin posted:Teams are getting the ball out quickly and not staying in the pocket, and both OV and Wake are injured. If Detroit and Miami both blow things up maybe the Dolphins can swoop in and get Teryl Austin to be coach and handpick his DC to run his system.
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kalensc posted:If Detroit and Miami both blow things up maybe the Dolphins can swoop in and get Teryl Austin to be coach and handpick his DC to run his system. i don't know teryl austin seems a little too...uh...how do i put this "hip hop"
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Sep 29, 2015 19:18
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The Dolphins should hire Joe Lombardi. He has the pedigree.
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I was thinking the Patriots are going to have a pretty short draft weekend with their 1st and 6th already gone. But then I see they're going to have four compensatory picks (3rd, 6th, 6th, 6th) from Revis, Vereen, Wilfork and Ayers. They should probably fix that system.
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