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Badger of Basra posted:What are the identity politics related policies which are economically regressive? Just off the top of my head you've got people lobbying to end wage negotiation because women tend to negotiate for less.
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Miltank posted:Just off the top of my head you've got people lobbying to end wage negotiation because women tend to negotiate for less. I'd like to see a link to this.
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Sep 25, 2015 13:36
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Miltank posted:Just off the top of my head you've got people lobbying to end wage negotiation because women tend to negotiate for less. First of all, I am 100% sure this is like citing the Dork Enlightenment about social trends. Second of all, wage negotiation is a hammer used against unionization.
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Sep 25, 2015 13:38
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Sucrose posted:What if, secretly, race and ethnicity are more important than class? they aren't
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Sep 25, 2015 13:53
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Miltank posted:Just off the top of my head you've got people lobbying to end wage negotiation because women tend to negotiate for less. Care to provide any links (preferably not a tumblr post)?
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Sep 25, 2015 14:52
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computer parts posted:I'd like to see a link to this. Some Companies Fight Pay Gap by Eliminating Salary Negotiations E: note the source and the tone of the article. This poo poo is catnip for liberals. I should have said salary negotiation, my bad. Miltank fucked around with this message at 14:58 on Sep 25, 2015 |
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Sep 25, 2015 14:54
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now we're in the bizzaro world where collective bargaining is considered "economically regressive" by so called socialists. How is an employer actually paying all employees doing the same job anti-worker? How is letting their college bud make a few extra bucks economically progressive?
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Sep 25, 2015 14:55
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Oh I thought you meant through collective bargaining. Yawn.
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Sep 25, 2015 14:57
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Its just another way to limit the rights of workers.
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Sep 25, 2015 14:59
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I'm not seeing any activists in this, only corporate executives making decisions and academics presenting salary negotiation as part of the pay gap. I guess if we use the most shitheaded definition possible for "lobbying" possible, your statement would be true. In any case, thank you for declaring civil service compensation "economically regressive". Miltank posted:Its just another way to limit the rights of workers. Thank you also for repeating Wal*Mart anti-union propaganda.
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Thankyou for your valuable insight, internet liberal effectronica. E: Seriously though, I am interested if you have an opinion on corporate feminism. Miltank fucked around with this message at 15:08 on Sep 25, 2015 |
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Sep 25, 2015 15:04
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Individual workers negotiating their salaries in secret with their employers: An under appreciated tool for raising class consciousness.
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Sep 25, 2015 15:44
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Miltank posted:Its just another way to limit the rights of workers. So you oppose closed shops I assume?
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Miltank posted:Thankyou for your valuable insight, internet liberal effectronica. I don't know what you mean by that. I do know that your position is identical to antiunion propaganda about how collective bargaining infringes on your rights as a worker. I do know that focusing on "rights as an individual worker" has been used as a framework for all sorts of heinous poo poo like RTW and at-will employment. I do know that you made extremely misleading and/or stupid statements earlier. So do you wish to continue?
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Sep 25, 2015 15:47
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Trabisnikof posted:So you oppose closed shops I assume? No I support and encourage the closed shop and full unionization. But if you are not in a union, then you should be able to bargain for your wages.
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Sep 25, 2015 16:10
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VitalSigns posted:You just need a charismatic enough revolutionary leader who's willing to pile up vast skull mountains of librarians and grad students and kindergarten teachers and anyone with eyeglasses, and then everyone's got much bigger things to worry about than a little racism, problem solved. Pol Pot/Beria 2016
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Miltank posted:No I support and encourage the closed shop and full unionization. But if you are not in a union, then you should be able to bargain for your wages. I dunno. Seems like if people aren't allowed to bargain for their wages individually they'd be more likely to unionize.
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Sep 25, 2015 17:26
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I dunno. Seems like if people aren't allowed to bargain for their wages individually they'd be more likely to unionize. Yeah, I live in fantasy world too.
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Sep 25, 2015 19:25
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PerpetualSelf posted:I recently read this article which lays out the history of privilege and identity politics. It lays out a very convincing argument that the development of these concepts were created as a means to split radical americans and discourage the possibility of radical revolution throughout the world. Isn't a class based revolution by definition identity politics?
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Sep 25, 2015 19:45
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Typo posted:Isn't a class based revolution by definition identity politics? No.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I dunno. Seems like if people aren't allowed to bargain for their wages individually they'd be more likely to unionize. Ok so accelerationism?
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