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Diogines
Dec 22, 2007

Beaky the Tortoise says, click here to join our choose Your Own Adventure Game!

Paradise Lost: Clash of the Heavens!

I am not a regular to this forum, I read the rules thread and looked for a relevant mega-thread, I did not see one which which is relevant for this issue. If there is one, my apologies if I missed it. Edit: Sigh. Sorry about the typo in the title.

On to my question.

AVG has apparently started selling the browsing habits of its users. I do not like that very much. I am going to get rid of AVG but I want some sort of virus scanner. I use Windows. I have a firewall and have reasonable habits to protect my computer but I want some kind of anti virus as well. I don't particularly mind paying for one, I just want something which is reliable, not a resource hog and not selling my browsing habits to a third party. Can anyone recommend some anti virus software?


Diogines fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Sep 19, 2015

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MrMoo
Sep 14, 2000

Microsoft has been the only vendor to be reliable and not a resource hog, go Microsoft Security Essentials.

The Ass Stooge
Nov 9, 2012

a hunger uncurbed
by nature's calling
Microsoft Security Essentials if you're running Windows 7, Windows Defender (built-in) if you're running 8 or 10. Don't gently caress with anything else. Every other piece of AV software I have ever encountered is such a piece of poo poo that I'd almost rather have a virus. MSE/WD and some common sense are all you need.

kuddles
Jul 16, 2006

Like a fist wrapped in blood...
I use Microsoft Security Essentials and do a scan with MalwareBytes about once a month. Haven't had a major issue in over a decade.

Unsound Logic
Jul 12, 2002

"Why don't you mosey along, pardner."

If you don't mind paying some money NOD32 is still a solid choice.

http://www.eset.com/us/products/nod32-antivirus/

Senturion
Jul 29, 2013

Left AVG a few years ago for Microsoft Security Essentials. Caught something about Microsoft Security Essentials lagging far behind in the last couple years, so moved over to Malwarebytes and haven't had any issues since.

HalloKitty
Sep 30, 2005

Adjust the bass and let the Alpine blast
MSE gets a lot of recommendations, but when it actually comes to virus testing, it falls flat on its face. It's still an OK choice, but it doesn't rank with the best.
The best solution is prevention. An ad-blocker. This will, I would wager, stop the majority of vectors (apart from you deliberately finding dodgy software).

Roargasm
Oct 21, 2010

Hate to sound sleazy
But tease me
I don't want it if it's that easy
You can also deploy MSE with a single executable enterprise-wide. Pretty rare in the AV world

kuddles
Jul 16, 2006

Like a fist wrapped in blood...

HalloKitty posted:

MSE gets a lot of recommendations, but when it actually comes to virus testing, it falls flat on its face. It's still an OK choice, but it doesn't rank with the best.
I have heard that, but still make the compromise because virus testers that are supposedly superior almost always end up being a rickety resource hog with a terrible interface and constantly making false positives.

JockstrapManthrust
Apr 30, 2013
MSE/Defender, with Malwarebytes scans once a week. Also have no Adobe Flash/Acrobat installed, no Java, and run an add blocker on my browsers. So that's most infection vectors blocked.

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed
College Slice
Quoting from when this was asked in the pro forum:

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

the basic idea behind antivirus software (that is, matching a virus against a virus signature) has been almost useless for years now; what antivirus companies do these days is use your computer to take samples of emerging threats and sell the threat propagation data to other security firms.
This is why it doesn't matter how good a virus scanner does on some industry benchmark.

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

i mean they'll still find viruses, it's just they find the really dopey slow viruses that take the short virus bus to virus school and that you'd only get if you're using something like Limewire to download totally_legit_cool_porn.exe
So since that's all you'll get from any vendor, use Microsoft Security Essentials/Defender, as it won't slow down your machine or break random poo poo while doing it, or throw up stupid false positives. Or bundle browser plugins with massive backdoors. Or send your data to advertisers or the Russians.

Alereon fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Sep 22, 2015

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Well it'll probably send it to advertisers, but not that other stuff.

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed
College Slice
You have a lot more faith in Kaspersky than most people!

CuddleChunks
Sep 18, 2004

Chiming in to third or fourth what everyone has said so far - MSE/Defender seems to work best with the least amount of hassle.

If you aren't willing to uninstall Flash, then get some kind of Flash blocker that will require you to manually approve every stupid flash widget on the page before it runs. That cuts out the bulk of lovely attacks. Next up is considering using a Javascript blocker to do the same thing. That's a level of nuisance I haven't personally ventured into yet but the Flashblock stuff has been a godsend over the years.

I've had very good results from uBlock Origin as an add-on for Chrome or Firefox to help cut down on ads and junky sites too.


Please, please, *please* back up your computer. Get your data into the cloud, get your cloud data into another cloud. Cloudify your clouded data with a fog machine or something. Just get it replicated in several places so that if you get hit, you can recover those pics of Grandma at your sixth birthday party.

Hi Grandma. :unsmith:

lethial
Apr 29, 2009
For those of you that don't have Flash installed, how do you view flash contents? Is there an alternative? Or do you guys just not bother with Flash related contents period?

MrMoo
Sep 14, 2000

Use Chrome with Click-to-Run, on OS X you can use Safari with no Flash and bring up Chrome for revisiting the 20th Century.

So many Restaurant and small business sites in Japan and China use Flash despite iPhone and Android being really popular and the predominant client platforms.

penus penus penus
Nov 9, 2014

by piss__donald
More trouble than its worth, 19thing MSE and nothing else. I occasionally reinstall Windows to keep things "fresh" but I know that isn't viable for everybody.

Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKgf5PaBzyg

chocolateTHUNDER
Jul 19, 2008

GIVE ME ALL YOUR FREE AGENTS

ALL OF THEM

THE DOG HOUSE posted:

More trouble than its worth, 19thing MSE and nothing else. I occasionally reinstall Windows to keep things "fresh" but I know that isn't viable for everybody.

Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKgf5PaBzyg

This isn't even necessary anymore. I'd still be rocking my original Windows 8 install from November 2012 on my main PC if I didn't get an SSD a few months ago.

penus penus penus
Nov 9, 2014

by piss__donald

chocolateTHUNDER posted:

This isn't even necessary anymore. I'd still be rocking my original Windows 8 install from November 2012 on my main PC if I didn't get an SSD a few months ago.

I know. Old habits die hard. Fortunately, its so insanely fast these days its hardly even a hassle. And it really keeps the clutter down... I have yet to have a computer with more than 1 TB total (currently, I have 860 GB and people think im insane, but I dont even come close to filling that even 1/3 the way).

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed
College Slice

lethial posted:

For those of you that don't have Flash installed, how do you view flash contents? Is there an alternative? Or do you guys just not bother with Flash related contents period?
At home I use Firefox with Flash installed and just have it set to click-to-activate except on the video sites I access most frequently. At work, where I'm not allowed to install Flash, I find MOST sites fall-back to HTML5 video in Firefox, and the few that don't I can open in Chrome, which has Flash built-in (and doesn't count as "installing" Flash under our security policies, presumably because Chrome auto-updates it).

lethial
Apr 29, 2009
Thanks for the helpful info! I have ad block for all my browsers at home as well as NoScript for Firefox, even with that one of my PCs got infected ones through an ad... I can't wait til flash is completely phased out. Actually, why is flash so exploitable? It is not even the most widely distributed software, or is it?

Orcs and Ostriches
Aug 26, 2010


The Great Twist
Flash was extremely prevalent. Youtube and basically all video or music streaming was flash, and a lot of sites were basically all flash content. Even web-based business applications would require flash, so it got its tendrils in everywhere.

MrMoo
Sep 14, 2000

A relevant article on Ars today, Kaspersky and friends make your computer more vulnerable.

eightysixed
Sep 23, 2004

I always tell the truth. Even when I lie.
I still trust and use NOD32 :colbert:

trunkh
Jan 31, 2011



I'm currently working in an Environment that isn't locked down and is suffering from constant USB autorun viruses. I'm not affected (I'm working from my own laptop) but I'd like to resolve the issue. I have the capability to install software (such as spybot, or malware bytes) but I'm not sure if those pieces of software are panacea.

Any suggestions of a good course of action?

MrMoo
Sep 14, 2000

Disable autorun?

trunkh
Jan 31, 2011




Cheers, I will explore that.

gallop w/a boner
Aug 16, 2002

Hell Gem
All reactive anti-virus is ineffective so go for whichever is the most lightweight, i.e. MSE.

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gallop w/a boner
Aug 16, 2002

Hell Gem

trunkh posted:

I'm currently working in an Environment that isn't locked down and is suffering from constant USB autorun viruses. I'm not affected (I'm working from my own laptop) but I'd like to resolve the issue. I have the capability to install software (such as spybot, or malware bytes) but I'm not sure if those pieces of software are panacea.

Any suggestions of a good course of action?

Look into an application whitelisting product like Applocker. Should solve your problems unless your users constantly need to run unknown executables in which case it becomes hard to manage.

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