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Ice. Media calls it an 'epidemic'. Ice is a unifying problem for diverse communities. From the marginalised communities to the suburban white folks. Some argue that this is more of a health issue now than a legal issue. Some say that criminalising addicts will give them no hope of a future, except more crime. "Prohibition is futile." Certain nations like Portugal and Switzerland have essentially decriminalised ice, and are focusing on treating addicts and spreading awareness as a prevention measure. Some argue that other western nations should adopt this method. There is comparison drawn between this theory and the needle exchange program implemented since the 1980's to counter the spread of AIDS among heroine addicts. Your thoughts?
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captaintsubasa posted:Ice. Media calls it an 'epidemic'. Ice is a unifying problem for diverse communities. From the marginalised communities to the suburban white folks. Some argue that this is more of a health issue now than a legal issue. Some say that criminalising addicts will give them no hope of a future, except more crime. "Prohibition is futile." Certain nations like Portugal and Switzerland have essentially decriminalised ice, and are focusing on treating addicts and spreading awareness as a prevention measure. Some argue that other western nations should adopt this method. There is comparison drawn between this theory and the needle exchange program implemented since the 1980's to counter the spread of AIDS among heroine addicts. Your thoughts? If your municipality keeps enough salt on hand and has the trucks, ice isn't really a huge deal. It saddens me that the lack of knowledge about ice has caused huge issues in cities like Atlanta.
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Sinnlos posted:If your municipality keeps enough salt on hand and has the trucks, ice isn't really a huge deal. It saddens me that the lack of knowledge about ice has caused huge issues in cities like Atlanta. How effective is salt at dealing with the feminist heroine addicts though?
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Sep 20, 2015 06:34
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Raskolnikov38 posted:How effective is salt at dealing with the feminist heroine addicts though?
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captaintsubasa posted:Ice. Media calls it an 'epidemic'. Ice is a unifying problem for diverse communities. From the marginalised communities to the suburban white folks. Some argue that this is more of a health issue now than a legal issue. Some say that criminalising addicts will give them no hope of a future, except more crime. "Prohibition is futile." Certain nations like Portugal and Switzerland have essentially decriminalised ice, and are focusing on treating addicts and spreading awareness as a prevention measure. Some argue that other western nations should adopt this method. There is comparison drawn between this theory and the needle exchange program implemented since the 1980's to counter the spread of AIDS among heroine addicts. Your thoughts? Is posting-while-tweaking bannable here, or is that just in TCC? Reducing meth use would be a lot easier if adderall wasn't as common as candy in high schools and colleges. It's hard to get a good public health campaign explaining that this substance can ruin your life when people are doing a drug that's tremendously similar as a study aid.
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Yeah no thanks, I've tried Europe's warm flat drinks, I'm not giving up the ice habit anytime soon even if it means prison.
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Sep 20, 2015 07:56
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e_angst posted:Is posting-while-tweaking bannable here, or is that just in TCC? Well I don't know about that, even one methyl group can make a big difference. Most people don't have a problem understanding that ethanol is okay to drink, but methanol or isopropanol are not. None of my adderall-abusing schoolfriends would touch meth with a 10-foot pole.
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I am willing to sacrifice our love.
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Sep 20, 2015 08:10
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I think ICE should stop deporting families!
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Raskolnikov38 posted:How effective is salt at dealing with the feminist heroine addicts though? The scourge of Wonder Woman fanfics is devouring our cities from the inside
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captaintsubasa posted:Ice. Media calls it an 'epidemic'
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e_angst posted:Is posting-while-tweaking bannable here, or is that just in TCC? It's not even close actually. VitalSigns posted:Well I don't know about that, even one methyl group can make a big difference. Most people don't have a problem understanding that ethanol is okay to drink, but methanol or isopropanol are not. Yea it's a common misunderstanding but drugs don't work like that poster thinks they do. Even things that have the same exact formula can have incredibly different effects, just by mirroring it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chirality_(chemistry) TROIKA CURES GREEK fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Sep 20, 2015 |
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TROIKA CURES GREEK posted:It's not even close actually. Having done both, I can attest that their psychoactive effects are profoundly similar (adderall just being a slightly lighter version). I've been clean for a few years now, but when I was using pretty much everyone I knew who used started with adderall. It's similar to the relation between oxycontin and heroin. They are different substances but their effects are similar enough to trigger the same kind of addiction in people who are predisposed to it. VitalSigns posted:Well I don't know about that, even one methyl group can make a big difference. Most people don't have a problem understanding that ethanol is okay to drink, but methanol or isopropanol are not. You think they won't touch it. Some of them might be using it now. Those who make the leap from adderall to meth are pretty good about hiding it because of the social stigma. More than once when I was using (and even after for a while after I got clean) I was approached by people whose adderall prescription had run out and who wanted a hookup. (They were always "trying to make it through a big project" or something. Seems a lot of big projects seem to come due around the time people who use a lot of adderall run out...)
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Ice is not going away anytime soon, op. The necessary precursor can be found in every kitchen in the country and I know several people who managed to make it by themselves, for recreational purposes, without much trouble. It's really easy. Decriminalization of ice or bust.
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But without IC how will we keep rogue deckers out of our network, chummer?
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waitwhatno posted:Ice is not going away anytime soon, op. The necessary precursor can be found in every kitchen in the country and I know several people who managed to make it by themselves, for recreational purposes, without much trouble. It's really easy. In some places you can buy machines to make ice for you. They sell in department stores and are completely legal as far as I know.
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Ice is a killer and the conditions required to create ice have already led to countless avoidable deaths. We need to do something about the ice problem.
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Sinnlos posted:If your municipality keeps enough salt on hand and has the trucks, ice isn't really a huge deal. It saddens me that the lack of knowledge about ice has caused huge issues in cities like Atlanta. Salt is the worst thing you can use though, sand and other things that don't corrode metal are much better. Not just for the undercarriage of your car, but for the environment in general.
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duz posted:Salt is the worst thing you can use though, sand and other things that don't corrode metal are much better. Not just for the undercarriage of your car, but for the environment in general. Salt is pretty loving necessary for actual winter weather.
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Sinnlos posted:If your municipality keeps enough salt on hand and has the trucks, ice isn't really a huge deal. It saddens me that the lack of knowledge about ice has caused huge issues in cities like Atlanta. Salt is terrible, a single winter will rust out the bottom of your car. I live in New York and we purposely buy cars from out of the state because they have no rust, and keep them off the roads in the winter to keep them rust free. People drive poo poo rear end clunkers in the winter if they can afford it.
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captaintsubasa posted:Ice. Media calls it an 'epidemic'. Ice is a unifying problem for diverse communities. From the marginalised communities to the suburban white folks. Some argue that this is more of a health issue now than a legal issue. Some say that criminalising addicts will give them no hope of a future, except more crime. "Prohibition is futile." Certain nations like Portugal and Switzerland have essentially decriminalised ice, and are focusing on treating addicts and spreading awareness as a prevention measure. Some argue that other western nations should adopt this method. There is comparison drawn between this theory and the needle exchange program implemented since the 1980's to counter the spread of AIDS among heroine addicts. Your thoughts? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rog8ou-ZepE
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Boko Haram posted:Salt is terrible, a single winter will rust out the bottom of your car. I live in New York and we purposely buy cars from out of the state because they have no rust, and keep them off the roads in the winter to keep them rust free. People drive poo poo rear end clunkers in the winter if they can afford it. Lol American cars. Seriously, how are you a superpower?
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waitwhatno posted:Lol American cars. Seriously, how are you a superpower? Hey I'm from Syracuse, we get 115 inches of snow every winter. It's a poo poo ton of salt haha, my father shoveled a snow bank higher than our two story house one winter in the 90s.
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waitwhatno posted:Lol American cars. Seriously, how are you a superpower? The rest of the world is just that bad
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Boko Haram posted:Salt is terrible, a single winter will rust out the bottom of your car. I live in New York and we purposely buy cars from out of the state because they have no rust, and keep them off the roads in the winter to keep them rust free. People drive poo poo rear end clunkers in the winter if they can afford it. lmao no it won't what are you even talking about
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 "We can't let our kids get exposed to 'dem devil's drugs! Thank gawd alcoholism runs in our family, son!"
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this_is_hard posted:lmao no it won't what are you even talking about Hey go easy on him. For all you know he could be posting from the 1960s!
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Hey go easy on him. For all you know he could be posting from the 1960s! Reefer Madness!
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CommieGIR posted:Reefer Madness! I was more referring to how they didn't offer anti-corrosion coatings as standard features on cars back then but yeah he might be high as well.
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My town has a rampantly increasing homeless population. Many of them are mentally ill and addicted to meth or heroine. Home break-ins, car thefts and murders have been higher this year than any other year in history. The people are sharpening their pitchforks because it's basically the last resort. We've spent millions on homeless shelters, public housing, addiction recovery programs, but they're just not being used. Police-escorted social workers go to the homeless camps twice a week, but the services are still not being used. No one feels safe anymore.
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Its an urban myth that the CIA shared refrigeration technology with the blacks, and now everything remains chilled at all times. No one's forcing them to take "cube"; get a job and stop the complaining.
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Wolfman Nards posted:My town has a rampantly increasing homeless population. Many of them are mentally ill and addicted to meth or heroine. Home break-ins, car thefts and murders have been higher this year than any other year in history. The people are sharpening their pitchforks because it's basically the last resort. We've spent millions on homeless shelters, public housing, addiction recovery programs, but they're just not being used. Police-escorted social workers go to the homeless camps twice a week, but the services are still not being used. No one feels safe anymore. You can blame your politicians and the general attitude you muricans possess. You're in for quite a ride in the future, when jobs will become even scarcer because of machines and automation. I don't feel sorry for you though, I feel sorry for the homeless.
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Slipknot Hoagie posted:Its an urban myth that the CIA shared refrigeration technology with the blacks, and now everything remains chilled at all times. No one's forcing them to take "cube"; get a job and stop the complaining. Oh yeah? Then how do you explain this?  
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Mr. Cool Ice 2016 He'll solve the ice problem.
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duz posted:Oh yeah? Then how do you explain this? Man, I live in what qualifies as a luxury apartment around here and I don't have air conditioning, nor do I have a window that I can use to vent a portable air conditioner. This poo poo loving sucks, I'm living like a particularly poor poor person.
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captaintsubasa posted:Ice. Media calls it an 'epidemic'. Ice is a unifying problem for diverse communities. From the marginalised communities to the suburban white folks. Some argue that this is more of a health issue now than a legal issue. Some say that criminalising addicts will give them no hope of a future, except more crime. "Prohibition is futile." Certain nations like Portugal and Switzerland have essentially decriminalised ice, and are focusing on treating addicts and spreading awareness as a prevention measure. Some argue that other western nations should adopt this method. There is comparison drawn between this theory and the needle exchange program implemented since the 1980's to counter the spread of AIDS among heroine addicts. Your thoughts? i'm portuguese and i approve ice aaaa+++++ will eyeball again
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PT6A posted:Man, I live in what qualifies as a luxury apartment around here and I don't have air conditioning, nor do I have a window that I can use to vent a portable air conditioner. This poo poo loving sucks, I'm living like a particularly poor poor person. that sounds tough yo
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Your Weird Uncle posted:that sounds tough yo It's practically a living hell, thank you for your understanding.
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Does the heroin craze in a city burn out before meth takes over the news, or do they coexist for a while?
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